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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    What a snowflake.

    Seriously.

    Mr. Whiny McBirther is the epitome of hypocritical snowflake.
    Awiens

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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    I mentioned malice in a previous post where Goldwater won his libel suit against an opinion bloviator.
    I missed nothing.

    RTT
    OK, you misstated the standard in the first two tries, including in the post I quoted, but I guess you're learning the law as you go on this thread. Sounds like your expertise is worth listening to since you just learned all the law one needs to know about the issue in the last half hour or so...

    BTW I did check that Goldwater post - also wrong. Quoting you:

    In order for Trump to win, his attorney will prove that false statements were willfully published without any thought of malice.

    Trump would need to prove false statements were knowingly published without the author using the benefit of fact checking. Supreme Court’s New York Times v. Sullivan decision in March 1964.
    Both those statements are false. The first bolded is I assume a typo, but it's incorrect as stated, and the second still gets the standard wrong. Actual malice requires more than simply incorrect, false, but the author knowing it's false or with a reckless disregard for whether it's true or false.
    Last edited by JasperL; 02-26-20 at 08:56 PM.

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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    Sorry but you've managed to only sling personal insults my way, and add very little to the discussion.

    Carry on.
    What discussion? The one before the edits or after?

    I require honesty before I qualify something as a discussion.

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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    I don't ask morons to read anything, I ask morons to provide the link to the comment they wanted me to read.

    It's called 'courtesy', a quality which you obviously lack.
    Here's what's not courteous.
    It's not courteous to call or imply that posters are "MORONS" because they don't meet your demands.
    Last edited by trixare4kids; 02-26-20 at 08:54 PM.

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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Cole View Post
    What discussion? The one before the edits or after?

    I require honesty before I qualify something as a discussion.
    Not one of your juvenile tirades has been on the thread topic when it comes to addressing my posts.
    Keep trying. One of these days you'll figure out how this thing called discussion works.

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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    President Trump’s re-election campaign filed a lawsuit against the New York Times on Wednesday, charging that a column it published in 2019 libeled the president when it said his 2016 campaign was working with Russia to defeat Hillary Clinton.

    The lawsuit says the column, published on March 27, 2019, falsely stated the “campaign had an ‘overarching deal’ with ‘Vladimir Putin’s oligarchy’ to ‘help the campaign against Hillary Clinton’ in exchange for ‘a new pro-Russian foreign policy, starting with relief from … economic sanctions,” Jenna Ellis, senior legal adviser to Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., said in a statement.

    “The statements were and are 100 percent false and defamatory. The complaint alleges The Times was aware of the falsity at the time it published them, but did so for the intentional purpose of hurting the campaign, while misleading its own readers in the process,” the statement said.


    The lawsuit was filed in New York State Supreme Court.

    Trump campaign sues New York Times for libel
    LOL Trump is the one lying. His attempt to remove Russian sanctions during his first week in office was well known and caused Congress to pass a bill with veto proof margins to block him. Trump is attempting to rewrite history. Next he will be insisting that he invented the school desk so that children may learn and it will be taught so in every school.

    Trump White House Made Secret Efforts to Remove Russia Sanctions
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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    I mentioned malice in a previous post where Goldwater won his libel suit against an opinion bloviator.
    I missed nothing.

    RTT
    What does RTT mean?
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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    OK, you misstated the standard in the first two tries, including in the post I quoted, but I guess you're learning the law as you go on this thread. Sounds like your expertise is worth listening to since you just learned all the law one needs to know about the issue in the last half hour or so...
    Are you an attorney?
    If not, you've got no authority to point out what I have allegedly misstated.

    Be sure now to have a most fortuitous evening. I've got better things to do than argue with those only interested in one upmanship.

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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    What does RTT mean?

    rtt simply means Read the thread
    RTT may be used when an answer for a question has been posted previously in the thread, particular weight given if it is just a few post up.

    Urban Dictionary: RTT

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    Re: Trump Campaign Sues New York Times Over 2019 Opinion Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    Check out the court filing.
    I did. The suit alleges the "opinion" column somehow harmed Trump. It rendered the author's "opinion" on Trump's desired relationship with Russia by referring to various events. Is Trump similarly vulnerable for comments he's made about Mexican migrants, blacks, Muslims, the woman who was not his type, Judge Curiel, judge and jurors in the Stone case, etc.?

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