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Sanders Wins Nevada Caucuses, Strengthening Front-Runner Position

Are you feeling the Bern, yet?

Bernie has about 2% of the total delegates needed. He has a long way to go and hasn't hit the Bible Belt yet. We will see how it goes in SC and on Super Tuesday. Bernie's defense of Castro over the weekend will not be kind to him. The left needs to take a real look at where Bernie is.
 
Maybe, but I'd say young Democrats want inspiration. The rest want stability. The vast majority of Hispanic voters in NV are young, which is where Sanders drew support. Some people will jump on the bandwagon in SC, but Sanders does not have black support like he has Hispanic support.

I don't see many Sanders posters..I have seen Biden posters, Tulsi posters, posters for Styer and even Bloomberg....I have yet to see a Bernie poster...and I travel extensively in Charleston every week.
 
I don't see many Sanders posters..I have seen Biden posters, Tulsi posters, posters for Styer and even Bloomberg....I have yet to see a Bernie poster...and I travel extensively in Charleston every week.

That's good news.
 
I don't see many Sanders posters..I have seen Biden posters, Tulsi posters, posters for Styer and even Bloomberg....I have yet to see a Bernie poster...and I travel extensively in Charleston every week.

Tell exactly what the Democrats are selling other than politics of personal destruction, class envy, jealousy? Selling negativity isn't a successful election strategy as the American people want results which they are getting from Trump
 
Nope, because poverty rates are computed based on household income before the addition of "safety net" assistance. The reality is "safety net" programs do not "fix" poverty - they simply make the poor more comfortable while they remain poor.

I agree - but no reason they should suffer more than they have to. These are Americans. These are our members of our society. Every American who isn't in prison should have a basic level of quality of life.
 
Tell exactly what the Democrats are selling other than politics of personal destruction, class envy, jealousy? Selling negativity isn't a successful election strategy as the American people want results which they are getting from Trump

Nobody votes according to one opinion poll. Except you, of course.
 
Nobody votes according to one opinion poll. Except you, of course.

I vote based upon results which you seem to ignore. Grew up a staunch Democrat, A conservative Democrat, that party left me. You spend a lot of time here provoking and trolling never offering anything of substance. Waiting for you to tell us all what the Democrats are going to do to continue the Trump results?
 
Nope, because poverty rates are computed based on household income before the addition of "safety net" assistance. The reality is "safety net" programs do not "fix" poverty - they simply make the poor more comfortable while they remain poor.

So what's your answer then, remove the safety nets so people are out on the streets?
 
So what's your answer then, remove the safety nets so people are out on the streets?

All carrots and no sticks changes nothing. Why work more (or harder) for that which is provided "free" indefinitely?
 
I agree - but no reason they should suffer more than they have to. These are Americans. These are our members of our society. Every American who isn't in prison should have a basic level of quality of life.

OK, but why work more (or harder) to obtain that which is is provided "free" indefinitely?
 
So what's your answer then, remove the safety nets so people are out on the streets?

NO, let the states implement those safety nets as that is where social responsibility lies.
 
You buy rhetoric and ignore results, better check on how great the European economy was in 2019 and the projections for 2020?

Europe's weak economy is driving the region into another lost decade - CNN

This is exactly what happens when an economy is so highly dependent on gov't spending and doesn't have a robust private sector. This is what you want here??


Bernie is more into the Nordic model, not so much the Euro model.

Nordic model - Wikipedia

The Nordic model has been positively received by some American politicians and political commentators. Jerry Mander has likened the Nordic model to a kind of "hybrid" system which features a blend of capitalist economics with socialist values, representing an alternative to American-style capitalism.[54] Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has pointed to Scandinavia and the Nordic model as something the United States can learn from, in particular with respect to the benefits and social protections the Nordic model affords workers and its provision of universal healthcare.[55][56][57] According to Naomi Klein, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev sought to move the Soviet Union in a similar direction to the Nordic system, combining free markets with a social safety net, but still retaining public ownership of key sectors of the economy—ingredients that he believed would transform the Soviet Union into "a socialist beacon for all mankind".[58][59]

The Nordic model has also been positively received by various social scientists and economists. American professor of sociology and political science Lane Kenworthy advocates for the United States to make a gradual transition toward a social democracy similar to those of the Nordic countries, defining social democracy as such: "The idea behind social democracy was to make capitalism better. There is disagreement about how exactly to do that, and others might think the proposals in my book aren't true social democracy. But I think of it as a commitment to use government to make life better for people in a capitalist economy. To a large extent, that consists of using public insurance programs—government transfers and services".[60]

Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz has noted that there is higher social mobility in the Scandinavian countries than in the United States and argues that Scandinavia is now the land of opportunity that the United States once was.[61] American author Ann Jones, who lived in Norway for four years, contends that "the Nordic countries give their populations freedom from the market by using capitalism as a tool to benefit everyone" whereas in the United States "neoliberal politics puts the foxes in charge of the henhouse, and capitalists have used the wealth generated by their enterprises (as well as financial and political manipulations) to capture the state and pluck the chickens".[62]

Economist Jeffrey Sachs is a proponent of the Nordic model, having pointed out that the Nordic model is "the proof that modern capitalism can be combined with decency, fairness, trust, honesty, and environmental sustainability".[63]

The Nordic combination of extensive public provision of welfare and a culture of individualism has been described by Lars Trägårdh of Ersta Sköndal University College as "statist individualism".[39]

A 2016 survey by the think tank Israel Democracy Institute found that nearly 60 percent of Israeli Jews preferred a "Scandinavian model" economy, with high taxes and a robust welfare state.

The UN's "World Happiness Report" rates scandinavian countries the highest, with Finland winning 2019, and Norway winning 2018, as the countries with citizens who are the happiest with their countries, in the world.


The Nordic model has been successful at significantly reducing poverty.[43] In 2011, poverty rates before taking into account the effects of taxes and transfers stood at 24.7% in Denmark, 31.9% in Finland, 21.6% in Iceland, 25.6% in Norway and 26.5% in Sweden. After accounting for taxes and transfers, the poverty rates for the same year became 6%, 7.5%, 5.7%, 7.7% and 9.7% respectively, for an average reduction of 18.7 p.p.[44] Compared to the United States, which has a poverty level pre-tax of 28.3% and post-tax of 17.4% for a reduction of 10.9 p.p., the effects of tax and transfers on poverty in all the Nordic countries are substantially bigger.[44] However, in comparison to France (27 p.p. reduction) and Germany (24.2 p.p. reduction) the taxes and transfers in the Nordic countries are smaller on average.[44]
 
All carrots and no sticks changes nothing. Why work more (or harder) for that which is provided "free" indefinitely?

So you don't have an answer then, got it.
 
NO, let the states implement those safety nets as that is where social responsibility lies.

Sorry federal safety nets have precedence despite your stomping your feet. Get used to it.
 
Bernie is more into the Nordic model, not so much the Euro model.

Nordic model - Wikipedia



The UN's "World Happiness Report" rates scandinavian countries the highest, with Finland winning 2019, and Norway winning 2018, as the countries with citizens who are the happiest with their countries, in the world.

Again, apples and oranges, how many people under the Nordic model? Interesting how now 6%, 7.5%, 5.7%, 9.7% are being touted, what is our unemployment rate, the U-3 and now what is the U-6 rate? You have been duped by the left ideology and cannot dig your way out of your own ignorance on this issue and the private sector in this country. Your state is a fiscal disaster because of the so called Nordic model and your state has more people than the entire Nordic region. The haves in California are fleeing your state leaving it to the havenots. Brilliant liberal marketing strategy
 
Sorry federal safety nets have precedence despite your stomping your feet. Get used to it.

Only in the leftwing world in which you reside. You cannot sell your ideology and that really pisses you off. you keep promoting that socialist model and massive nanny state and when you fail it will be too late to say, "I am sorry!"
 
So you don't have an answer then, got it.

How about a one time payment of say $200K - if that is not enough "seed money" to get someone out of poverty then they are beyond help.
 
How about a one time payment of say $200K - if that is not enough "seed money" to get someone out of poverty then they are beyond help.

The liberal argument brings back to memory the "Bruce Almighty" movie with Jim Carrey in Which Carrey was given the power to grant wishes with the biggest one coming from people requesting winning the lottery. So many people made that wish that the lottery payout was in pennies and that is what left wants to make our dollars worth, pennies. great rhetoric and appeals for compassion but unrealistic and damaging to the U.S. economy and value of the dollar. Redistribution of wealth never works nor does giving handouts to those unwilling to participate in society or the private sector
 
The liberal argument brings back to memory the "Bruce Almighty" movie with Jim Carrey in Which Carrey was given the power to grant wishes with the biggest one coming from people requesting winning the lottery. So many people made that wish that the lottery payout was in pennies and that is what left wants to make our dollars worth, pennies. great rhetoric and appeals for compassion but unrealistic and damaging to the U.S. economy and value of the dollar. Redistribution of wealth never works nor does giving handouts to those unwilling to participate in society or the private sector

It allows congress critters to be re-elected at a rate of over 90%.
 
Only in the leftwing world in which you reside. You cannot sell your ideology and that really pisses you off. you keep promoting that socialist model and massive nanny state and when you fail it will be too late to say, "I am sorry!"

Sorry federal safety nets have precedence despite your stomping your feet. Get used to it. (This will be my response anytime you bring up the fed/state).
 
Sorry federal safety nets have precedence despite your stomping your feet. Get used to it. (This will be my response anytime you bring up the fed/state).

Yes and people like you love being dependent on a federal bureaucrat
 
Yes and people like you love being dependent on a federal bureaucrat

Sorry federal safety nets have precedence despite your stomping your feet. Get used to it.
 
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