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Sanders Wins Nevada Caucuses, Strengthening Front-Runner Position

For Democrats to 'control' Trump they need the power, which they don't have controlling only the House. But Trump is indeed an autocrat, he's purging the government of anyone who disagrees with him or is loyal to in the rule of law and the constitution and replacing them with people who are loyal to him. He also punishes those who do the right thing and report his misconduct, frightening those who might do the same in the future. The only thing not pure GOP in his policies is his tariffs, that are also a bad idea.
Democrats are not supposed to control Trump. No one is. The Constitution and the Rule of Law provide checks on his authority, just as the provided checks on the Democrats show impeachment trial. Regardless, no President is an autocrat, not even Barack Obama though he acted like one.

Most of the tariffs have been lifted pursuant to trade agreements. Indeed, many never went into effect.
 
Democrats are not supposed to control Trump. No one is. The Constitution and the Rule of Law provide checks on his authority, just as the provided checks on the Democrats show impeachment trial. Regardless, no President is an autocrat, not even Barack Obama though he acted like one.

Most of the tariffs have been lifted pursuant to trade agreements. Indeed, many never went into effect.

Yours is a comment from someone who truly is independent, not those here claiming to be independent because they don't have the guts to admit their true lean. Thank you
 
Tweet of the day: "At least we know that Bernie will continue to build the wall once he’s president. Gotta have some way to keep us in!"
 
Mod Dems are freaking out.

They know The Bern's past commie praising, "free stuff" and other radical horse**** won't fly in the General. As a result, Indies and Mod Dems might either stay home or vote 3rd party in November...and either way will hand Trump a 2nd term.
 
Well I'm far from rich and I've been doing much better in the Trump economy. I hve no plan to vote for someone who openly brags about raising my taxes and managing my personal health care decision for me.

You clearly have no idea what Bernie's tax plan it Mr. "Far from rich". :lol:
 
Are you feeling the Bern, yet?

Oh but they are saying he won because of Russia Russia Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!

Biden is out there claiming it is Russia keeping him from getting the nomination!!!!!!

'They like Bernie': Biden says Russia working to prevent him from getting nomination

Trump tweeted this afternoon





Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump


Are any Democrat operatives, the DNC, or Crooked Hillary Clinton, blaming Russia, Russia, Russia for the Bernie Sanders win in Nevada. If so I suggest calling Bob Mueller & the 13 Angry Democrats to do a new Mueller Report, Democrat Edition. Bob will get to the bottom of it!
1:45 PM · Feb 23, 2020·

Trump suggests 'calling Bob Mueller' after Sanders win following Russia report

:lol:
 
I find it interesting on how far Biden has fallen. On 1 Feb, Biden held the lead in Nevada, 3 weeks later Sander is trouncing him. On 1 Feb in South Carolina, Biden led Sanders by 20 points, today that lead is down to 2. Amazing.

Why is it surprising?

He has nothing resembling any sort of inspiring agenda, and is grappling with what appears to be dementia or substantial and glaring cognitive decline, while his handlers do their utmost best to keep him sheltered from the public because when he does appear, he tells people to vote for 'someone else' or to 'vote for Trump', and calls them 'dog faced pony soldiers', alongside debate performances have been consistently awful.

The only thing he ever had was his so-called argument to electability, and between the Sanders' surge and his dismal performance in Iowa, it vanished like the illusion it so obviously was, with Sanders being the top second choice of his voters.
 
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The best thing about a Bernie nomination will be hearing all the Nazis accuse anyone voting for him of being Communists.
 
Why is it surprising?

He has nothing resembling any sort of inspiring agenda, and is grappling with what appears to be dementia or substantial and glaring cognitive decline, while his handlers do their utmost best to keep him sheltered from the public because when he does appear, he tells people to vote for 'someone else' or to 'vote for Trump', and calls them 'dog faced pony soldiers', alongside debate performances have been consistently awful.

The only thing he ever had was his so-called argument to electability, and between the Sanders' surge and his dismal performance in Iowa, it vanished like the illusion it so obviously was, with Sanders being the top second choice of his voters.

Yeah, it was Biden's electability against Trump. Biden still does better in most polls in head to head against Trump than the others. Although it has become more even over the last three weeks. I think it's very possible when the Democrats were thinking about the best candidate to beat Trump, that was Biden. Now that the primaries have begun, than has taken a back seat to one's favorite or most liked candidate. Prior to the primaries it was all about beating Trump. Now that they have begun, it's all about getting your candidate the nomination.

I do think you're correct that old Joe has shown some senility of old age. He lacks that fire in the belly that he had when he was younger. His once wit seems to have departed him. Was he the best candidate to beat Trump, he seemed so a month or more ago, but one's perspectives changes. Especially when one now views the candidate up close and personal.
 
Oh but they are saying he won because of Russia Russia Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, it has been reported Russia wants Bernie to be Trump's opponent.
Biden is out there claiming it is Russia keeping him from getting the nomination!!!!!!

No, he said Russia doesn't want him to be Trump's opponent.
 
Gooooood. Make the Left's true intentions known.
 
A key element of authoritarianism is political repression, demand for loyalty and punishment of anyone who opposes. That fits Trump 100% and not Bernie at all.

It fits his supporters, as evidenced by the no-shows in 2016. So, they have the loyalty thing down. Corporations are the boogieman, so it's a short leap to repression and punishment.
 
You clearly have no idea what Bernie's tax plan it Mr. "Far from rich". :lol:

"The strongest argument for socialism is that it sounds good. The strongest argument against socialism is that it doesn't work. But those who live by words will always have a soft spot in their hearts for socialism because it sounds so good."—Thomas Sowell
 
It fits his supporters, as evidenced by the no-shows in 2016. So, they have the loyalty thing down. Corporations are the boogieman, so it's a short leap to repression and punishment.

This is a good read for you:
Bernie Sanders Isn’t the Left’s Trump

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There are many things to say about that, but the most important is that he is NOT a left-leaning version of Trump. Even if you disagree with his ideas, he’s not a wannabe authoritarian ruler.

America under a Sanders presidency would still be America, both because Sanders is an infinitely better human being than Trump and because the Democratic Party wouldn’t enable abuse of power the way Republicans have.
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"The strongest argument for socialism is that it sounds good. The strongest argument against socialism is that it doesn't work. But those who live by words will always have a soft spot in their hearts for socialism because it sounds so good."—Thomas Sowell

Except it does work
 
If you want to put forth and argument employing the path of reason and evidence, then saying "worse than the mafia" defeats it, as that is plainly an emotional weasel word tinged statement.

Federal programs are better for programs which require consistency across states. Where localization is more important, then state should do it, perhaps with federal guidelines. Social Security is better as a federal program.

Well, that's either true or false, and you've not provided evidence of the claim. Please provide a source for this claim.

Weasel words. One could say the same about big corporations, and so, as such, it's a meaningless statement. Not all businesses are corrupt, not all government enterprises are corrupt. There is bureaucracy in big business, as well, and I know that first hand. There will always be the problem of bureaucracy in any large enterprise, public or private, due to bigness and the difficulty of managing large enterprises.

More weasel words and emotional arguments. The truth is always on a case by case basis, you are generalizing. The same could just as easily be said of the private world.

By the way, try and do a FOIA request in a corporation. End of argument. For those who seem to think private enterprise is beyond reproach, I have one word for you: "Enron".

More emotional charged weasel words. Dismissed. Please make reasoned statements, and support it with sourcing.

Private investment is voluntary. There is a large swath of people who are not endowed with as much wisdom as those who are wise enough to invest money in way that will take care of themselves when they are older.

Republicans will say: "you made bad choices, so suffer, I don't care".

Democrats believe differently, we care. We understand that there are people who lack sufficient ability, and need help. At least when they are older, they will have something which is a lot better than nothing. The right will say "you don't have the right to take money from me and give it to someone else". That's a bogus argument, taxes are a collective thing, not a I take this from you and give it to joe, kind of thing. Either you support taxation, or you don't, there is no in between. Voters decide, ultimately.

No, Soc Sec is not security, not any any sense of the word, but for those in that group, it helps a lot. To argue "which is better, soc sec or private investment" is a red herring, therefore.


Free markets are great for a lot of things, except two things, as I've said before, health care and real estate. Social programs don't cause homelessness, free markets with insufficient regulation do.



FYI, forum members would appreciate it if you employed the use of smaller paragraphs, separate according to separate ideas.

Sincere question, I'm fairly new to the forum thing. How did you separate and reply separating sections? Can I somehow select each individual section you created to reply? I would like to respond but need to do it in small doses due to lack of time. If it's easy to explain and you care to please let me know, if not, I will try to figure it out when I can and respond in time. Thanks for the discussion and detailed response.
 
Except it does work

No, it doesn't.

I am 100% convinced that the capitalistic, free market economy that this country was founded on is unchallenged as being the best this world has ever seen.
No system is perfect and never will be.

However, don't go screwing up the best that this world has seen. If you or anyone else is so convinced that what other countries are doing is better, then by all means you have the freedom to go and live in those places.
 
No, it doesn't.

I am 100% convinced that the capitalistic, free market economy that this country was founded on is unchallenged as being the best this world has ever seen.
No system is perfect and never will be.

However, don't go screwing up the best that this world has seen. If you or anyone else is so convinced that what other countries are doing is better, then by all means you have the freedom to go and live in those places.

We have lots of socialist programs. They work great. We need a few more
 
We have lots of socialist programs. They work great. We need a few more

Yep, if "working great" means having a poverty rate between 12% and 15% and spending many billions to keep it that way.
 
"The strongest argument for socialism is that it sounds good. The strongest argument against socialism is that it doesn't work. But those who live by words will always have a soft spot in their hearts for socialism because it sounds so good."—Thomas Sowell

Tell it to Europe.
 
Yep, if "working great" means having a poverty rate between 12% and 15% and spending many billions to keep it that way.

Increase social programs and that number goes down
 
Increase social programs and that number goes down

Nope, because poverty rates are computed based on household income before the addition of "safety net" assistance. The reality is "safety net" programs do not "fix" poverty - they simply make the poor more comfortable while they remain poor.
 
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