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Sanders Wins Nevada Caucuses, Strengthening Front-Runner Position

joko104 said:
Sanders is the tele-evangelist of politics. With exaggerated arm movements, a forceful authoritarian voice - slowly booming out each simple key word, he declares if you believe in what he says and in him. If you support him and the dogma he preaches - all your financial, health and social problems will be solved as reward for being a true believer in his secular religion for which he is the only prophet to save them. Naive, generally young adults without personal direction and confidence in life can cling to such a secular preacher and professor.
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Says the Trump supporter...
 
Perotista said:
I agree old friend. I never liked caucuses for the reason you stated.
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Warren’s speech tonight started the ‘end the legislative filibuster’ discussion that will surely come back to bite Democrats in the ass. She out-flanked Bernie on the left with that one, so we’ll see.

If Mitch keeps the Senate, I expect him to use this ‘Warren Rule’, IF the GOP flips the House :mrgreen: He won’t have to use reconciliation anymore. As well, Mitch could still fill a Supreme Court seat before the election.

With Sanders as the nominee, you could easily see Manchin flip parties. Jones will easily lose AL, and other Dem Senators such as MI and MN could drop. The down-ballot carnage will be unprecedented.
 
cpwill said:
Holy Moly.

Hah! Well, now, this will be at least interesting, if terrifying. :)
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Biden's biggest strength was among black voters. In South Carolina blacks made up 55% of the total democratic primary vote there in 2016. When Biden had his big lead back on 1 Feb, he was receiving 55% of the black vote in SC. Today that support has dropped to 31% and his once 20 point lead down to 2. During this 3 week period, Sanders has remained the same among blacks in SC 17% and 17%. But Steyer has risen from 6% to 18% while black undecided has risen from 9 to 21%. There's Biden's loss of support among blacks in SC.

With 21% of blacks now undecided, there still could be a surprise in South Carolina. Steyer has gone from 7% on 1 Feb up to 15% today among all voters in SC. Sanders has risen from 16% to 21% while Biden fell from 36% down to 23%. You might be looking at a Sanders, Steyer 1,2 finish in South Carolina if Biden continues his free fall.
 
NeverTrump said:
Says the Trump supporter...
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I have often acknowledged that Trump is the world's greatest attention whore. However, he doesn't know when to stop and is reckless in how he does so. This may well have cost him re-election.
 
NeverTrump said:
Says the Trump supporter...
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The question I believe Sanders may be unprepared for is: Who are you considering as your VP, important Cabinet positions, Judicial picks.

Another high hard one could be his history supporting the likes of Castro against JFK, as well as his early manifestos. I need some bullet points from Bernie folks to have a chance in the Midwest.
 
Linc said:
The question I believe Sanders may be unprepared for is: Who are you considering as your VP, important Cabinet positions, Judicial picks.

Another high hard one could be his history supporting the likes of Castro against JFK, as well as his early manifestos. I need some bullet points from Bernie folks to have a chance in the Midwest.
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1980 elector for the presidential candidate of the Trotskyite Socialist Workers Party.
 
It's pretty sad when the Democrats can't even nominate someone from their own party. A Socialist? "Hey America, we love freedom and the Constitution! So we're nominating a Socialist to run for President!" LOL! What a plan.
 
Anthony60 said:
It's pretty sad when the Democrats can't even nominate someone from their own party. A Socialist? "Hey America, we love freedom and the Constitution! So we're nominating a Socialist to run for President!" LOL! What a plan.
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Yeah Bernie is great
 
dairyair said:
I won't if you wont!!
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Sanders is a plague. So is Trump.

Populism needs to be stamped out and expert consensus should be paid attention to.

Neither is particularly concerned with this. Their fanbase support for anything they say is definitely to be avoided.



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Perotista said:
I find it interesting on how far Biden has fallen. On 1 Feb, Biden held the lead in Nevada, 3 weeks later Sander is trouncing him. On 1 Feb in South Carolina, Biden led Sanders by 20 points, today that lead is down to 2. Amazing.
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I've seen part of 2 debates. And not much of either.

There's a reason Biden is falling. He struggles with words.
 
Bullseye said:
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If Bloomberg were smart he'd just give Bernie a billion dollars. It would steal Bernie's main election slogan; "it's all the billionaire's fault".
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Ironic, since Trump has given twice as much money as the 2010 bailout to farmers in order to bail them out from his trade war.
 
Linc said:
Warren’s speech tonight started the ‘end the legislative filibuster’ discussion that will surely come back to bite Democrats in the ass. She out-flanked Bernie on the left with that one, so we’ll see.

If Mitch keeps the Senate, I expect him to use this ‘Warren Rule’, IF the GOP flips the House :mrgreen: He won’t have to use reconciliation anymore. As well, Mitch could still fill a Supreme Court seat before the election.

With Sanders as the nominee, you could easily see Manchin flip parties. Jones will easily lose AL, and other Dem Senators such as MI and MN could drop. The down-ballot carnage will be unprecedented.
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I've been saying all along that if the democrats nominate a candidate attractive to independents, they win in a landslide. If they nominate another one that is disliked as much or more than Trump, certainly another 2016 is possible. Manchin is an old fashioned Democrat, the kind of democrat I was use to. switching parties, possible. But I think he would retire when his term is up rather than switch. Jones is a goner mainly because of his impeachment vote, his chances were slim to begin with in a state where Trump has a 60% approval rating.

Colorado will go blue, Arizona also if they nominate Kelly. Maine I'm not sure of. Mainly because of that stupid ranked voting. With the right candidate at the top the democrats have a real good shot at both Georgia's seats along with North Carolina. I don't think Sanders is that right candidate. Not down here.

Impeachment of Trump has re-energized the Republicans. The Democrats had a huge lead in the enthusiasm gap over the last three years. Not anymore. Their lead there is gone thanks to impeachment. That has united the GOP behind Trump as never before. The Democrats seem to be the more divided party now.

But so much depends on who the democrats nominate. I wonder if they learned the lesson from 2016 that candidates matter. Candidates matter especially to independents, much more than those who identify with the two major parties.
 
Cardinal said:
Ironic, since Trump has given twice as much money as the 2010 bailout to farmers in order to bail them out from his trade war.
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LOL, I was wondering who would drop the first "Yeah, but Trump . . . " Congrats, you won. :lamo
 
Perotista said:
Biden's biggest strength was among black voters. In South Carolina blacks made up 55% of the total democratic primary vote there in 2016. When Biden had his big lead back on 1 Feb, he was receiving 55% of the black vote in SC. Today that support has dropped to 31% and his once 20 point lead down to 2. During this 3 week period, Sanders has remained the same among blacks in SC 17% and 17%. But Steyer has risen from 6% to 18% while black undecided has risen from 9 to 21%. There's Biden's loss of support among blacks in SC.

With 21% of blacks now undecided, there still could be a surprise in South Carolina. Steyer has gone from 7% on 1 Feb up to 15% today among all voters in SC. Sanders has risen from 16% to 21% while Biden fell from 36% down to 23%. You might be looking at a Sanders, Steyer 1,2 finish in South Carolina if Biden continues his free fall.
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Being adjacent to South Carolina, you might have an insight on just how many Republicans, as well as Independents, vote in their OPEN primary.

We’ve seen this Operation Chaos rat****ing from the GOP since 1968. We're seeing it in the North Carolina Democratic primary for Senator to go off 3/3.

I see Doug Collins turned down the DNI. Big mistake for him. That’s about the Dem’s only chance in Georgia, for GOPs to implode.
 
Cardinal said:
Ironic, since Trump has given twice as much money as the 2010 bailout to farmers in order to bail them out from his trade war.
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And he plans to give those swing Midwest states many more billions before the election.
 
Bullseye said:
LOL, I was wondering who would drop the first "Yeah, but Trump . . . " Congrats, you won. :lamo
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You’re welcome. But if you’re going to give Sanders crap for giving out free stuff, you have to acknowledge that Trump is the quintessential free-Federal-money-for-everyone guy (but only if you’re in Trump’s base, of course).
 
OrphanSlug said:
So much for Democrats... learned nothing from 2016.
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The Democrats did nothing wrong in 2016 by nominating the winner of the most votes and delegates.

They did learn a lot this year about screwing up caucuses and the importance of having 56 primaries.

What do you mean they learned nothing in the last four years?
 
Cardinal said:
You’re welcome. But if you’re going to give Sanders crap for giving out free stuff, you have to acknowledge that Trump is the quintessential free-Federal-money-for-everyone guy (but only if you’re in Trump’s base, of course).
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sheeeeettttt! Trump is small potatoes compared to Bernie's promises. By the way you got any documentation for your claim?
 
Perotista said:
As an old foggie, I remember Joe as a Senator long before he became VP. I always like Joe and respected him. Out of the entire lot of candidates, I'm sure Biden would make the best president. You're right though, Biden isn't a good campaigner. In my opinion, Biden is the best qualified and the one I would trust most with the future of this country.
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If only he had his wits about him.
 
Blue Donkey said:
The Democrats did nothing wrong in 2016 by nominating the winner of the most votes and delegates.

They did learn a lot this year about screwing up caucuses and the importance of having 56 primaries.

What do you mean they learned nothing in the last four years?
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They still haven't figured out how to appeal to the ordinary Americans who voted Trump in.
 
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