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[W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

HumblePi said:
You don't seem to be grasping this fact, it's denial that's all. Russian interfered in our election in order to help Donald Trump win, that is FACT.
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Yep-- and all that Steele dossier stuff was part of the plan how?
 
Athanasius68 said:
Yep-- and all that Steele dossier stuff was part of the plan how?
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You really need to stop propagating the false narrative about the Steele dossier since very little of what was contained in the dossier was actually used by the Special Counsel in their investigation. Subsequent to a thorough investigation, at least 17 Russian military intelligence officers were indicted. Their indictments had little to nothing to do with the Steel dossier.

Russia interfered, period, end of discussion. And Trump was told they did and shown proof of their interference. Yet, he still believed PUTIN!!
 
Moderate Right said:
Sure it does. Putin wants Americans to question our democracy and the voting process and sow discord between the two sides.
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Moderate Right said:
I don't understand how a small handful of you lefties understand this and yet fall for it by running around for three years screaming Russian collusion, Russian collusion....
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Thanks MR for once again being able to talk out of both sides of your mouth. You do understand Putin worked to sow chaos, then you chastise "the left" for making a federal case out of it.
 
uptower said:
They could have got him last time instead of Twump then. They want the least competent.
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And yet, America is thriving at record pace while Russia is fading into irrelevance.

Miscalculation.

They're affecting nothing outside of hearing their name 24/7 on CNN and MSNBC.
 
Erod said:
Does anyone honestly think Russia wouldn't prefer comrade Bernie?
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Erod said:
And yet, America is thriving at record pace while Russia is fading into irrelevance.

Miscalculation.

They're affecting nothing outside of hearing their name 24/7 on CNN and MSNBC.
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Intelligence officials warned lawmakers in a briefing before the House Intelligence Committee last week that the Russians are continuing their efforts to attack the democratic process and interfere in the 2020 election, and that one prong is aimed at helping re-elect President Trump.

"The message was, it appears they're favoring one candidate over another, and everybody should be cautious," a source who attended the Hill meeting confirmed to CBS News. The New York Times first reported on the briefing at the Capitol. Officials at the briefing offered an assessment reflective of the conclusions of multiple agencies, and lawmakers on both sides asked to see the underlying intelligence.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Thanks MR for once again being able to talk out of both sides of your mouth. You do understand Putin worked to sow chaos, then you chastise "the left" for making a federal case out of it.
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Putin worked to sow chaos and the left fell for it hook, line, and sinker. They are totally willing pawns marching to Putin's orders.
 
Moderate Right said:
You admitted yourself that this is what Russia wanted and the left have given Putin exactly what he wanted.
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I did admit that this is what putin wanted. I made no statement on what the left did in response.
 
HumblePi said:
You really need to stop propagating the false narrative about the Steele dossier since very little of what was contained in the dossier was actually used by the Special Counsel in their investigation. Subsequent to a thorough investigation, at least 17 Russian military intelligence officers were indicted. Their indictments had little to nothing to do with the Steel dossier.

Russia interfered, period, end of discussion. And Trump was told they did and shown proof of their interference. Yet, he still believed PUTIN!!
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In fact the FISA Application was used, unlawfully, to spy on US Citizens and the FBI falsely claimied it was "Verifiedd".

Also, specifically, how did Russia interfere in the election?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Intelligence officials warned lawmakers in a briefing before the House Intelligence Committee last week that the Russians are continuing their efforts to attack the democratic process and interfere in the 2020 election, and that one prong is aimed at helping re-elect President Trump.

"The message was, it appears they're favoring one candidate over another, and everybody should be cautious," a source who attended the Hill meeting confirmed to CBS News. The New York Times first reported on the briefing at the Capitol. Officials at the briefing offered an assessment reflective of the conclusions of multiple agencies, and lawmakers on both sides asked to see the underlying intelligence.
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Don't be so quick to believe what these guys tell you. There needs to be specifics. US intelligence briefer appears to have overstated assessment of 2020 Russian interference - CNNPolitics
 
tacomancer said:
I did admit that this is what putin wanted. I made no statement on what the left did in response.
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You said Putin wanted to sow discourse and make us question our democracy, or something similar to that, which is exactly what the left have been doing ever since Trump was elected.
 
Moderate Right said:
You said Putin wanted to sow discourse and make us question our democracy, or something similar to that, which is exactly what the left have been doing ever since Trump was elected.
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That is your interpretation of what the left has been doing. I see the left as defending the soul of our country.
 
Liberals post these Russian collusion threads like their jealous.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Intelligence officials warned lawmakers in a briefing before the House Intelligence Committee last week that the Russians are continuing their efforts to attack the democratic process and interfere in the 2020 election, and that one prong is aimed at helping re-elect President Trump.

"The message was, it appears they're favoring one candidate over another, and everybody should be cautious," a source who attended the Hill meeting confirmed to CBS News. The New York Times first reported on the briefing at the Capitol. Officials at the briefing offered an assessment reflective of the conclusions of multiple agencies, and lawmakers on both sides asked to see the underlying intelligence.
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OK, by doing what? Whether they favor comrade Bernie or President Trump, who cares?

What are they doing? Are they affecting you? Are they hacked into the voting machines, which Obama told us was impossible?

Show me evidence of something they've actually done to affect our elections, besides being a convenient excuse for the DNC to explain away its incompetence.
 
Moderate Right said:
Putin worked to sow chaos and the left fell for it hook, line, and sinker. They are totally willing pawns marching to Putin's orders.
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Again, you can't have it both ways, you can't say the left "fell for it" as they prosecute and convict those who cooperated with Putin.
 
Erod said:
OK, by doing what? Whether they favor comrade Bernie or President Trump, who cares?
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Oh, good, rhetorical questions....You don't intend for them to be answered.

What are they doing? Are they affecting you? Are they hacked into the voting machines, which Obama told us was impossible?
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See above.

]Show me evidence of something they've actually done to affect our elections, besides being a convenient excuse for the DNC to explain away its incompetence.
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Again, I'll refer you to the first answer, since you "don't care", I don't need to provide you with "evidence", this was you spewing rhetoric.
 
BahamaBob said:
Only a fool relies on someone else to pay for his needs. Frankly their are too many people in the world now anyway. If a few parasites die, no one will miss them.

By the way, the number one cause for bankruptcy is living beyond your means. If you don't save for unexpected events, you get what you deserve.
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Oh really?

Top 5 Reasons Why People go Bankrupt

Note that it lists the top two as medical expenses and job loss.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Don't be so quick to believe what these guys tell you. There needs to be specifics. US intelligence briefer appears to have overstated assessment of 2020 Russian interference - CNNPolitics
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Yeah, the admin will claim the intel doesn't show Putin helping bone spur....and in the same breath:

But while O'Brien denied that assessment, he was quick to seize on reports that Russia is interfering in the election to help Sen. Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primaries -- and mischaracterized the reports to suggest Russia wants Sanders to be President.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
In fact the FISA Application was used, unlawfully, to spy on US Citizens and the FBI falsely claimied it was "Verifiedd".

Also, specifically, how did Russia interfere in the election?
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Old dead horse, just keep beating it. Be happy.
 
Erod said:
And yet, America is thriving at record pace while Russia is fading into irrelevance.

Miscalculation.

They're affecting nothing outside of hearing their name 24/7 on CNN and MSNBC.
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While the Dow Jones may be doing well, Russia doesn't really care about that. Internal divisions - racial, partisan, etc - haven't been so high since the sixties; externally America's foreign policy is floundering, leaving heightened tensions in Palestine, a less coordinated NATO, emboldened Iran and Russia and Turkey stepping in to 'clean up' Syria according to their own hegemonic concerns. Now some of his predecessors laid the groundwork for that but Trump has accelerated it.

For all the shiny new ships and stealth planes, America's position is weaker; its words mean less and its influence is diminishing. Russia has got most of what it wants out of Trump so far.
 
tacomancer said:
That is your interpretation of what the left has been doing. I see the left as defending the soul of our country.
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LOL. Putin wanted to sow discord and make us question our democracy and ever since Trump was elected Democrats have been doing just that.
 
Moderate Right said:
LOL. Putin want to sow discord and make us question our democracy and ever since Trump was elected Democrats have been doing just that.
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I am sure that is what you believe.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Again, you can't have it both ways, you can't say the left "fell for it" as they prosecute and convict those who cooperated with Putin.
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Not one person has been prosecuted or convicted of colluding with Russia to influence the election. Not one.
 
tacomancer said:
I am sure that is what you believe.
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I don't know how you can sit there and deny it after what you posted earlier, where you admitted that Russia wanted to sow discord and make Americans doubt democracy and that is exactly what's been happening by the left for three years now. Some of you still claim that Trump is not the legitimate president. This is exactly what Putin wanted and the left have given it to them. I don't understand how blind you and others can be. It's right in front of your nose but I guess you're too proud to admit that Putin is pulling your strings and that you fell for it all hook, line, and sinker.
 
Moderate Right said:
I don't know how you can sit there and deny it after what you posted earlier, where you admitted that Russia wanted to sow discord and make Americans doubt democracy and that is exactly what's been happening by the left for three years now. Some of you still claim that Trump is not the legitimate president. This is exactly what Putin wanted and the left have given it to them. I don't understand how blind you and others can be. It's right in front of your nose but I guess you're too proud to admit that Putin is pulling your strings.
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Russia does want to sow discord and they are taking advantage of the US infighting. That has zero to do with the democratic party priorities. The democrats just want to return America back to normal.

The fact that you want to turn this into a conspiracy theory and read more into it than is there is on you.
 
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