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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    Do us all a favor get on your high moral horse and ride out of town. No current trump supporter has any business speaking about morals, integrity or honesty. So please give us a break. And if california is so horrible how come it's so packed with people and has such high property values along with the rest of california's high prices?

    Yeah, let's all move to alabama instead.
    It is packed with homeless poverty pimps, illegals all good Democrats who your party attracts

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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Your using the word Socialist and dictator as if they mean the same thing. Norway, Germany, Canada, etc. are not a dictatorships.
    Well, first, in the post you quoted I was using Communism and Dictatorship together, and you'll be hard pressed to find an example in history where the two don't go hand in hand. I said that Bernie's only real claim to fame is his socialist propaganda.. which is true. He has no real accomplishments as a Senator or in public office, and his most notable moments of the last 40 years in public office is his lauding of Socialist ideology and praising Socialist and Communist dictatorships.

    Second, those countries you listed aren't socialist. In fact, they are probably friendlier to free markets and wealth accumulation than Sanders' dream for America. Those countries have large social programs built off the product of their capitalist economies. Bernie's list of wants, in total, is closer to real socialism than are the economies of those countries.
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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    You are correct. It doesn't matter what I think. I'll tell ya' another truth. It doesn't matter to me what washington does, more than likely none of it affects me.

    I think you are underestimating how fed up many folks are with trump's antics and lack of leadership. I think he's going to lose in a landslide.
    There has to be an alternative though. If there's a diamond among those Democrat candidates, it's not showing through yet. The best chance of presenting a viable candidate who can also be 'the adult in the room' is Biden, and he's been shoved to the side.

    I would love to see Trump put down the twitter, but that aside, he's done a good job in the face of massive opposition. The results speak loudly. As long as employment stays up, and the US economy is doing well, he's going to be difficult to beat.

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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    You are correct. It doesn't matter what I think. I'll tell ya' another truth. It doesn't matter to me what washington does, more than likely none of it affects me.

    I think you are underestimating how fed up many folks are with trump's antics and lack of leadership. I think he's going to lose in a landslide.
    I think you are over thinking this so called Trump antics as what matters is what puts food on the table, clothes on the backs, and a roof over head. Trump's antics? You mean those that have generated the following results in spite of 24/7 focus on personality traits that were known before the 2016 election? All you people have done is galvanized support for Trump from his base, from independents, and from minority groups none of whom give a damn about politics of personal destruction that you continue to promote. Why is it so important for you to have a President that you like?

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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Well, first, in the post you quoted I was using Communism and Dictatorship together, and you'll be hard pressed to find an example in history where the two don't go hand in hand. I said that Bernie's only real claim to fame is his socialist propaganda.. which is true. He has no real accomplishments as a Senator or in public office, and his most notable moments of the last 40 years in public office is his lauding of Socialist ideology and praising Socialist and Communist dictatorships.

    Second, those countries you listed aren't socialist. In fact, they are probably friendlier to free markets and wealth accumulation than Sanders' dream for America. Those countries have large social programs built off the product of their capitalist economies. Bernie's list of wants, in total, is closer to real socialism than are the economies of those countries.
    The other issue here is this is a country of 330 million people with 50 different sovereign states with different costs of living and tax structures all built on a private sector economy. Sanders doesn't have a clue how to pay for his programs as he has reported in various interviews. He is an empty suit from a small state and as you have pointed out no significant accomplishments other than becoming a multi millionaire as a public servant. Wonder when people are going to question how he accomplished that?

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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The other issue here is this is a country of 330 million people with 50 different sovereign states with different costs of living and tax structures all built on a private sector economy. Sanders doesn't have a clue how to pay for his programs as he has reported in various interviews. He is an empty suit from a small state and as you have pointed out no significant accomplishments other than becoming a multi millionaire as a public servant. Wonder when people are going to question how he accomplished that?
    Well, that too. I don't know why the Democrats feel that they need to impose what they want on the whole country so often and so profoundly. If a state wants to try single payer then they can do it, I don't care. The issue is when cloistered, elitist progressives of both parties want to pretend like they are smarter than the rest of us. That is how you get idiots like Mike Bloomberg making utterly idiotic statements about how he thinks farming works... he takes that idiocy and applies it to his farming policy.
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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Well, first, in the post you quoted I was using Communism and Dictatorship together, and you'll be hard pressed to find an example in history where the two don't go hand in hand. I said that Bernie's only real claim to fame is his socialist propaganda.. which is true. He has no real accomplishments as a Senator or in public office, and his most notable moments of the last 40 years in public office is his lauding of Socialist ideology and praising Socialist and Communist dictatorships.

    Second, those countries you listed aren't socialist. In fact, they are probably friendlier to free markets and wealth accumulation than Sanders' dream for America. Those countries have large social programs built off the product of their capitalist economies. Bernie's list of wants, in total, is closer to real socialism than are the economies of those countries.
    The countries I listed are Democratic socialist countries with the same policies Bernie is promoting. He isn’t advocating for a Soviet style dictatorship
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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The countries I listed are Democratic socialist countries with the same policies Bernie is promoting. He isn’t advocating for a Soviet style dictatorship
    They are capitalist countries, no matter what they call themselves. Germany, especially, is not as Socialist as Bernie's dreams for America. While Bernie, for example, wants to abolish private insurance, Germany has a more American-style public/private insurance model.

    Bernie has no ideas that don't involve the government taking over an American industry.
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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    They are capitalist countries, no matter what they call themselves. Germany, especially, is not as Socialist as Bernie's dreams for America. While Bernie, for example, wants to abolish private insurance, Germany has a more American-style public/private insurance model.

    Bernie has no ideas that don't involve the government taking over an American industry.
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    Re: [W:169]Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The countries I listed are Democratic socialist countries with the same policies Bernie is promoting. He isnít advocating for a Soviet style dictatorship
    These countries you mentioned are not "Socialist" though they do have social programs. However Germany, Norway and Canada are moving into one common area of Socialism which is denying free speech.

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