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Barr has told those close to Trump he is considering quitting over the president's tweets...

Yeah, OK. It's kind of fascinating the buck in your view stops anywhere but on the boss's desk. :confused:

The "problem" is accountability. Trump doesn't like it. If Trump doesn't like it, his supporters don't like it. He could shoot someone on 5th Ave.
 
Trump is not responsible for The Swamp because the Swamp is treasonous, they are actively subverting this democracy because they cant stand the President that We The People picked.

Which means that we made the right call.

I'd have to agree, even given all this 'warts'.

Given what has been revealed about the DC swap so far, and more to come, one has to wonder:
1). How long this has been going on, and
2). What is it going to take to excise?
 
Trump is not responsible for The Swamp because the Swamp is treasonous, they are actively subverting this democracy because they cant stand the President that We The People picked.

Which means that we made the right call.

A trial by a jury of your peers is kind of democratic. Just sayin'.

When has Trump ever shown an interest in democracy? Or anti-corruption? Youre just blabbering his self-serving talking points.

And the people didn't pick him.
 
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The so-called justice system is deeply broken, even at the very top, something that Trump finally understands.

Good on him for making a stand for justice.

Oh, and you might try listening.

You might learn something.

It's unclear how making a stand for "justice" is primarily about pardoning or granting clemency to white collar criminals who, no coincidence, happen to kiss Trump's rear end in public, but for no one else in similar situations, and very few of the common people, other than those brought to his attention by other celebrities, who also are Trump sycophants.

It's the justice of any dictator or wannabe in any banana republic on the planet. Reward your friends, punish your enemies. That's not 'justice' that's a corruption of it.
 
A trial by a jury of your peers is kind of democratic. Just sayin'.

Not when the laws are poorly written on purpose to advantage the states ability to go collect anyone they want to, and not with the massive amounts of prosecutor misconduct that we have long had. Also SCOTUS is corrupt and poorly functioning , and the quality of our other judges keeps on getting worse too.
 
Bull****. It's just leaked bull**** to make it seem like he isn't the trump ass-licking toadie that he is. He will not quit for that.

You're absolutely right.l It's all bull****. Trump and Barr are thicker than thieves and Barr is loving his power almost as much as Trump is. They have big plans together, there's no way in hell any of that is genuine.
 
It's unclear how making a stand for "justice" is primarily about pardoning or granting clemency to white collar criminals who, no coincidence, happen to kiss Trump's rear end in public, but for no one else in similar situations, and very few of the common people, other than those brought to his attention by other celebrities, who also are Trump sycophants.

It's the justice of any dictator or wannabe in any banana republic on the planet. Reward your friends, punish your enemies. That's not 'justice' that's a corruption of it.

And you keep whistling pass the main argument, that the Justice system is a wreck that abuses American citizens, and is thus deeply in need of a Tune-up.

Trump is doing something...you dont like what he is doing I gather but he is doing something to try to get improvement, which is better than most.

Trump has a lot of leeway here, if you dont like where we are then consider how many times over the last decades you have called for reforms.

Had things been done anywhere close to right Trump never would have risen to the top, pushed up by The Rebellion.
 
Not when the laws are poorly written on purpose to advantage the states ability to go collect anyone they want to, and not with the massive amounts of prosecutor misconduct that we have long had. Also SCOTUS is corrupt and poorly functioning , and the quality of our other judges keeps on getting worse too.

Okay. When are you going to address "jury of his peers?" Are juries corrupt too?
 
Not when the laws are poorly written on purpose to advantage the states ability to go collect anyone they want to, and not with the massive amounts of prosecutor misconduct that we have long had. Also SCOTUS is corrupt and poorly function, and the quality of our judges keeps on getting worse.

There's a couple of problems with this:

1. Laws are created by a legislature if democratically elected representatives. Anyone who cares about demicracy would change these laws. It's authoritarians like Trump who simply ignore them.

2. He never cared a wit about these laws until now that they could serve to cause his convicted thugs to talk more about his corruption.

Corrupt, self-serving, authoritarian. That's Trump.
 
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And you keep whistling pass the main argument, that the Justice system is a wreck that abuses American citizens, and is thus deeply in need of a Tune-up.

Trump is doing something...you dont like what he is doing I gather but he is doing something to try to get improvement, which is better than most.

Trump has a lot of leeway here, if you dont like where we are then consider how many times over the last decades you have called for reforms.

Funny how talk of a "tune-up" comes up during the most corrupt president in American history.

You don't think it's a tad self-serving, since the victims seem to be associated with this corrupt president?

Funny you mention reform. Trump hasn't offered a word about it. No word to Congress about changing the law.

He's playing you, man.
 
You're absolutely right.l It's all bull****. Trump and Barr are thicker than thieves and Barr is loving his power almost as much as Trump is. They have big plans together, there's no way in hell any of that is genuine.

Which is why it was "leaked". It allows him to sound strong while now "senior aides" within the DOJ are saying he never said that. It was leaked so he could play it both ways. ****ing gross, disgusting, game playing liars.
 
Trump is not responsible for The Swamp because the Swamp is treasonous, they are actively subverting this democracy because they cant stand the President that We The People picked.

Which means that we made the right call.

Yes, I get it, Dear Leader cannot be wrong. It's always someone else's fault.
 
Which is why it was "leaked". It allows him to sound strong while now "senior aides" within the DOJ are saying he never said that. It was leaked so he could play it both ways. ****ing gross, disgusting, game playing liars.

They did it because they think we're all stupid and a lot of us are.
 
Thanks for proving my point. It is not often that such highly reasoned reply can be seen around here.

Entertaining too I am....what a bonus!

I am a good teacher in the subject of fun!
 
If it comes from the WaPo, then I take it with a pound of salt.

I am sick of "anonymous sources" claiming this and that, all in an effort to split Trump's Administration any way they can.

IMO it's just another bunch of OpFor moles trying to stir up as much trouble as they can.

I wish that Trump had worked on a "shadow staff" prior to winning the election in 2016 so that he could have swept most of the "Old Guard" out of advisory positions. Then built up on that staff via careful vetting processes.

That's going to be a major problem for any future "outsider" coming into office, and argues against a future "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" candidate who doesn't have a core staff coming in with him.

Yeah.

He just went with a shady staff instead.
 
As far as I can tell it's all shuck and jive. Barr and Trump are acting in concert.

Why would Barr leave? Because he's concerned about the integrity of his office? Because he is concerned about his place in history? Because continuing to work for Trump will ruin his good name and professional standing? No. No, and no.

Jahweh, however, will be quite pleased with him for helping his "flawed vessel" do the work he put him in power to do.
 
just think how bad Trump's next Attorney General will be.
 
The other near certain option is the "leak" came from Barr or his surrogates at his direction, so there's no need to rebut a story he pushed out to WaPo to serve his own ends. It's roughly the same message he sent on national TV just a few days prior, in person on video.

Near certain? Maybe. But this is still not news so much as unverified, anonymous, 3rd party gossip. If the Wapo thinks that helps them sell papers, more power to them.
 
Barr was given the opportunity to deny this story, and didn't. The DoJ issued a non-denial denial, which is aka a confirmation. Bottom line is Barr leaked this, directly or through surrogates, so if you're angry point that finger at Barr, not the messenger doing his bidding.

Once again, you're free to take your conspiracy theories elsewhere.
 
Once again, you're free to take your conspiracy theories elsewhere.

LOL, it's not a conspiracy theory when it's backed up by all the facts. The 'leak' is nothing more than a continuation of what Barr said in public a few days ago, about Trump's tweets making it impossible to do his job. If you didn't hear about that, look it up. It's on video, Barr speaking in his own words. Trump responded to Barr's pleas with.....a flood of more Tweets on DoJ matters, so effectively told Barr to shut up and go sit in a corner and be a good little errand boy like Trump wants. If you don't see how that's insulting to a guy like Barr, you need to reexamine your views.

You guys with your "facts are optional" attitude are hilarious in some ways, but it's scary how easily Trump has trained you to doubt your own eyes and ears.
 
LOL, it's not a conspiracy theory when it's backed up by all the facts. The 'leak' is nothing more than a continuation of what Barr said in public a few days ago, about Trump's tweets making it impossible to do his job. If you didn't hear about that, look it up. It's on video, Barr speaking in his own words. Trump responded to Barr's pleas with.....a flood of more Tweets on DoJ matters, so effectively told Barr to shut up and go sit in a corner and be a good little errand boy like Trump wants. If you don't see how that's insulting to a guy like Barr, you need to reexamine your views.

You guys with your "facts are optional" attitude are hilarious in some ways, but it's scary how easily Trump has trained you to doubt your own eyes and ears.

Looks like I touched another nerve by pointing out your conspiracy theories, yet again.

I have no issue with what was being said, but when you have to literally invent meaning and new context, just to have a chance of beign taken seriously. It's more of the same problem that you're going to keep having, until you wise up JasperL and realize that barely anyone really buys your shtick.

There are threads literally made for this crap that you keep pushing. So go and push it there.
 
Looks like I touched another nerve by pointing out your conspiracy theories, yet again.

I have no issue with what was being said, but when you have to literally invent meaning and new context, just to have a chance of beign taken seriously. It's more of the same problem that you're going to keep having, until you wise up JasperL and realize that barely anyone really buys your shtick.

There are threads literally made for this crap that you keep pushing. So go and push it there.

What did I invent? You've not said. You insulted me, which is fine, but you're not actually challenging anything I've said. You've done the equivalent of, "NO, you're WRONG!! AND STUPID!!!"

It's boring.
 
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