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Trump fires back after Obama claims credit for economic boom: 'Con job'

Threegoofs said:
You missed the biggest part- a massive juicing of the economy with trillion dollar deficits. That’s why the recovery continues.
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If you didn't care when it was under a Democrat, you shouldn't care now, and we both know you didn't.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
They caused economic improvements beyond the levels which existed prior to the recession, in other words, they went beyond bring the car back to its factory level performance. That was precisely what Obama had assured us would (could?) never happen.
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New technologies are being developed almost every day. Obsolete and costly technologies should be abandoned in favor of better solutions at lower cost in modern times.
 
danielpalos said:
New technologies are being developed almost every day. Obsolete and costly technologies should be abandoned in favor of better solutions at lower cost in modern times.
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Word salad platitudes saying exactly nil.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
They caused economic improvements beyond the levels which existed prior to the recession, in other words, they went beyond bring the car back to its factory level performance. That was precisely what Obama had assured us would (could?) never happen.
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What Obama said is irrelevant. What you'd have to show is that if Obama policies were continued by Trump, the trend lines would have leveled off. That's far beyond my pay grade, and I have no time to research the findings of those so qualified. All I know is that if you climb a ladder higher than anyone else has, you've accomplished a great feat, but you owe your success to the guy that put the ladder in place...and let you start six inches from the roof...after being shot out of a cannon.
 
OpportunityCost said:
If you didn't care when it was under a Democrat, you shouldn't care now, and we both know you didn't.
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The AM talk radio right wing’s interest in fiscal responsibility ended on January 20, 2017.

It had lasted exactly eight years.

Prior to that, the talk radio crowd bobbed its bobble heads to thier sage, Dick Cheney, who told them that “deficits don’t matter”.
 
TomFitz said:
The AM talk radio right wing’s interest in fiscal responsibility ended on January 20, 2017.

It had lasted exactly eight years.

Prior to that, the talk radio crowd bobbed its bobble heads to thier sage, Dick Cheney, who told them that “deficits don’t matter”.
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Did it matter to you when the last Democrat was in office? It didn't. Why does it now?
 
OpportunityCost said:
Did it matter to you when the last Democrat was in office? It didn't. Why does it now?
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It didn’t? Do tell!

I look at results. Guys like you just repeat what you hear on your AM radio.
 
TomFitz said:
It didn’t? Do tell!

I look at results. Guys like you just repeat what you hear on your AM radio.
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Same as the other poster, prove you were for anything fiscally conservative when Obama was in office.
 
What if...? said:
As population increases some metrics follow, quite obviously.

More people mean more consumption and more jobs to provide that which is consumed.

And the key word in "consumer confidence" is "confidence". As in "confidence man".

It is an emotional response, not one arrived at through sober examination of the evidence.

People were tapping their equity, because they were "confident" that their home's value would go ever upward, right up until the crash.

And I notice you provided no empirical evidence, just appeals to authority.
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I put up charts because someone asked me to do so. What's your problem?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Recovery refers to getting economic conditions (indicators?) back to pre-recession levels - those levels have been exceeded under Trump, yet were not exceeded under Obama.
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Which indicators had failed to return to pre-recession levels?
 
zimmer said:
Obama... The Ridiculous One.

Hey Obama... you had access to the same magic wand Trump has... you failed to use it because you didn’t know how to.

How do you negotiate a better deal? Well Obama... you should have been familiar with such matters before running for office. Idiocies like telling business to take bank loans to make payroll??? “And he went to Harvard”... and learned nothing about the world we live in.

Yes Obama... you were in way above your pay grade.

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Yes indeed, everyone knows that the US economy was in even worse shape at the end of 2016 than it was at the end of 2008 and that 100% of the improvement in the US economy has happened after PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP
was sworn in as THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
For several years my pet name for Obama was The Prick Extraordinaire

You can see where it comes from.



Example....and notice too if you will how right I was about Comey:
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I just called him traitor prick.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
They caused economic improvements beyond the levels which existed prior to the recession, in other words, they went beyond bring the car back to its factory level performance. That was precisely what Obama had assured us would (could?) never happen.
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You'll need to be specific. For example, if the indicator is manufacturing employment, it was about 17 million in 2000, and even after the Glorious Trump Economic Expansion, it's only about 13 million, and they've been increasing at about the rate during the Obama years.

And you'd do well to quote what Obama actually said, and not what Trump and many others have lied about what Obama said. Obama was directly addressing at least in part the manufacturing jobs, and so far the trends support Obama, not Trump. We're also on the tail end of a long recovery, and the question is when a recession will hit. So the good jobs trends, such as in manufacturing, are great, but the nice trends now will likely take a 1 million jobs or so hit in the next recession, like always, more like 2 million in the Great Recession, so we can't just extrapolate current trends 30 years out. Who knows?
 
AlphaOmega said:
I just called him traitor prick.
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Clearly "traitor" is another one of those words or phrases like "draft dodger" that conservatives have a magic definition for because they need magic to call President Obama a traitor and not trump. Read this slowly AO, trump called us murderers to defend his master Putin.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Same as the other poster, prove you were for anything fiscally conservative when Obama was in office.
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I don’t have to.

The only time that the Obama debt was anywhere close to the hair raising deficits that Republicans have run was in the first two years of his administration, when he inherited the economic collapse that Reaganomics and an orgy of speculation created.

Obama REDUCED deficits during his Presidency.

Clinton ran a budget surplus for two years.

No one on this forum was alive the last time ANY Republican did that!

Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt in eight years, and passed a giant borrowing machine onto George HW Bush, who wound up forced to raise taxes to pay for voodoo economics.

George W Bush, having learned that lesson, ran the Reaganomics flim flam again, and then started an unneccary unprovoked war in the wrong country.

That doubled the national debt once again, and left his successor with exploding deficits and the need to borrow still more to keep people from living in boxes on the side of the road.

Your fool’s gold fuhrer is borrowing at record levels, this time with no economic or national security emergency to justify it.
 
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