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After Trump’s Attacks on Justice Dept., Barr Says He Will Not ‘Be Bullied’

HenryChinaski said:
He may be looking for a way out while trying to save whatever shred of integrity of his reputation that he thinks he has.
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Nah, Barr is merely defending the fact that he helped a convicted Trump associate but wishes that Trump didn't admit in on Twitter.
 
jpn said:
Hmm. What to make of this?

I say it's B.S. Let's review the record:

January 30, 2020, Tim Shay, long-time advisor to Barr, was named interim USA for Wash. D.C. which oversees the:

--Mike Flynn case. Recently changed its recommendation from jail time to probation. Very, very unusual.
--Stone case. Changed recommendation to less time. Very, very unusual.
--James Comey leak case. Based on very thin predicate.
--Andrew McCabe case. Grand jury declined to indict, but DOJ hasn't moved to clear him. Very, very unusual.
--Eric Prince case referred by Intel Committee for lying to Congress. No movement.

And now Barr claims to be innocent as a rose and upset at Trump's "meddling?" Color me skeptical. If anything, Barr feels that Trump is being too blatant about it, and desires the corruption of the Justice Department to continue a little less visible.
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It's all a show. Barr has been Trump's lapdog from day one. He is now and nothing is going to change. It's all show. Americans thinking that Barr is suddenly interested in the rule of law, the Constitution and impartial representation of the People should back away from the hash pipe.

Barr is very much a part of Trump's deep state. They are going to shuck and jive, divert, obfuscate and collude. Bill Barr, overnight, has seen the way, the truth and the light. BULL****! I'm not buying it.
 
Erod said:
LOL, the constant freak-outs from you guys must be exhausting. Do you ever sleep or get anything productive done?
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They are tiring. We wish Trump would stop creating so much trouble.
 
noonereal said:
Seems to me that it was his way of saying, "hey, I am not directly the presidents bitch. It's a coincident that I do exactly what he wants all the time."

This last incident with Stone made things very uncomfortable for Barr. That is all he was saying.
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Barr doesn't mind being a Trump stooge. He just doesn't want to look like a Trump stooge. Unfortunately for him, a pig looks like a pig, even when it' wearing lipstick.
 
bearpoker said:
Barr doesn't mind being a Trump stooge. He just doesn't want to look like a Trump stooge. Unfortunately for him, a pig looks like a pig, even when it' wearing lipstick.
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That's what's surprised me a bit. Barr has been so obvious about being a Trump lick-spittle, I figured he didn't care. Or he thought he was ingratiating himself into a 7-figure payday after his DOJ gig. Maybe to be a legal "expert" on Fox "News."

Maybe the blowback was a bit too intense this time. If so, from who? Certainly criticism from the left hasn't bothered him.

Have some Republicans suddenly grown enough of a spine to say something to him on the QT? That would be encouraging, if true.
 
bearpoker said:
Barr doesn't mind being a Trump stooge. He just doesn't want to look like a Trump stooge. Unfortunately for him, a pig looks like a pig, even when it' wearing lipstick.
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Whoa! Let's not bring University of Florida wimmens into this. :wink2:
 
Erod said:
LOL, the constant freak-outs from you guys must be exhausting. Do you ever sleep or get anything productive done?
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Yeah.

Somebody has to pay the taxes.
 
jpn said:
That's what's surprised me a bit. Barr has been so obvious about being a Trump lick-spittle, I figured he didn't care. Or he thought he was ingratiating himself into a 7-figure payday after his DOJ gig. Maybe to be a legal "expert" on Fox "News."

Maybe the blowback was a bit too intense this time. If so, from who? Certainly criticism from the left hasn't bothered him.

Have some Republicans suddenly grown enough of a spine to say something to him on the QT? That would be encouraging, if true.
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The four US Attorneys who were working on the Stone case must have gotten his attention when they resigned. One quit the Justice Department entirely. If this keeps up, he might have a full scale rebellion on his hands. He might be trying to convince the help that he really is a real AG and not just a Trump stooge after all.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Barr is a heat-seeking missile aimed at the heart of democracy.
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He better memorize his shirt and pants size because he's going to be inheriting a pantsuit with very large horizontal stripes.
 
jpn said:
Hmm. What to make of this?

I say it's B.S. Let's review the record:

January 30, 2020, Tim Shay, long-time advisor to Barr, was named interim USA for Wash. D.C. which oversees the:

--Mike Flynn case. Recently changed its recommendation from jail time to probation. Very, very unusual.
--Stone case. Changed recommendation to less time. Very, very unusual.
--James Comey leak case. Based on very thin predicate.
--Andrew McCabe case. Grand jury declined to indict, but DOJ hasn't moved to clear him. Very, very unusual.
--Eric Prince case referred by Intel Committee for lying to Congress. No movement.

And now Barr claims to be innocent as a rose and upset at Trump's "meddling?" Color me skeptical. If anything, Barr feels that Trump is being too blatant about it, and desires the corruption of the Justice Department to continue a little less visibly.
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Yep. He’s covering his ass. He has no morals.
 
HenryChinaski said:
He may be looking for a way out while trying to save whatever shred of integrity of his reputation that he thinks he has.
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He’ll go back to Kirkland & Ellis.
 
Just for the sake of argument, could it be a case of Seller’s Remourse.

Which is sort of like buyer’s remorse, only in this case, the seller trades his integrity and moral authority.

Barr is one of the major proponents of the concept of the Unitary Executive, a conservative constitutional notion that posits a strong executive, presiding over the other two branches. This is in keeping with the steady drift of power toward the Executive over the course of time. Many historians caution, that pseudo authoritarian notions like this is how democracy dies.

Barr has been the enabling agent for Donald Trump. His skates through the Mueller investigation, and his repeated actions to run cover for Trump’s grab bag of scandals has enabled Trump to get away with blatant corruption, obstruction of justice, malfeasance, and possibly treason.

In fact, Donald Trump is the poster child for why the Unitary Executive is not only wrong, but extremely dangerous.

Maybe the scales are falling off Barr’s eyes.

Bear in mind, that I doubt it, but it’s a thought.
 
TomFitz said:
Just for the sake of argument, could it be a case of Seller’s Remourse.

Which is sort of like buyer’s remorse, only in this case, the seller trades his integrity and moral authority.

Barr is one of the major proponents of the concept of the Unitary Executive, a conservative constitutional notion that posits a strong executive, presiding over the other two branches. This is in keeping with the steady drift of power toward the Executive over the course of time. Many historians caution, that pseudo authoritarian notions like this is how democracy dies.

Barr has been the enabling agent for Donald Trump. His skates through the Mueller investigation, and his repeated actions to run cover for Trump’s grab bag of scandals has enabled Trump to get away with blatant corruption, obstruction of justice, malfeasance, and possibly treason.

In fact, Donald Trump is the poster child for why the Unitary Executive is not only wrong, but extremely dangerous.

Maybe the scales are falling off Barr’s eyes.

Bear in mind, that I doubt it, but it’s a thought.
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It's possible; I don't believe it for a minute, but it's possible...and I wish it were true.
 
jpn said:
Hmm. What to make of this?

I say it's B.S. Let's review the record:

January 30, 2020, Tim Shay, long-time advisor to Barr, was named interim USA for Wash. D.C. which oversees the:

--Mike Flynn case. Recently changed its recommendation from jail time to probation. Very, very unusual.
--Stone case. Changed recommendation to less time. Very, very unusual.
--James Comey leak case. Based on very thin predicate.
--Andrew McCabe case. Grand jury declined to indict, but DOJ hasn't moved to clear him. Very, very unusual.
--Eric Prince case referred by Intel Committee for lying to Congress. No movement.

And now Barr claims to be innocent as a rose and upset at Trump's "meddling?" Color me skeptical. If anything, Barr feels that Trump is being too blatant about it, and desires the corruption of the Justice Department to continue a little less visibly.
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Barr is Trump's personal attorney, so it's all hardly unusual. ;)
 
TomFitz said:
Maybe the scales are falling off Barr’s eyes.
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Occam's razor: Barr is gas-lighting the media into believing that Barr is innocent as a rose. It was just total coincidence that the extremely rare act of reducing a recommended sentence occurred when Trump was demanding exactly that.

Like I said before, at most Barr is getting more heat than he expected by being Trump's lick-spittle and is using this ploy as a means to reduce that heat, but more likely he was planning something like this all along.

And it's relevant to keep this in mind:

May, 2017:
Attorney General Orders Tougher Sentences, Rolling Back Obama Policy
WASHINGTON — Attorney General Jeff Sessions has ordered federal prosecutors to pursue the toughest possible charges and sentences against crime suspects, he announced Friday, reversing Obama administration efforts to ease penalties for some nonviolent drug violations.
In an eight-paragraph memo, Mr. Sessions returned to the guidance of President George W. Bush’s administration by calling for more uniform punishments — including mandatory minimum sentences — and instructing prosecutors to pursue the harshest possible charges.
The policy signaled a return to “enforcing the laws that Congress has passed,” Mr. Sessions said Friday at the Justice Department, characterizing his memo as unique for the leeway it afforded prosecutors.
“They deserve to be un-handcuffed and not micromanaged from Washington,” he said. “It means we are going to meet our responsibility to enforce the law with judgment and fairness.”
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Oh, the irony.
 
DiAnna said:
It's possible; I don't believe it for a minute, but it's possible...and I wish it were true.
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Again, not to suggest that I support Barr at all, but just imagine what we might get of Barr quits. Roy Moore? Jay Sekulow? Rudy Guliani? (Yes, we all know Trump is that stupid).

Most likely, the post will sit unrolled, and Trump will go through several “actings” before November.
 
jpn said:
Occam's razor: Barr is gas-lighting the media into believing that Barr is innocent as a rose. It was just total coincidence that the extremely rare act of reducing a recommended sentence occurred when Trump was demanding exactly that.

Like I said before, at most Barr is getting more heat than he expected by being Trump's lick-spittle and is using this ploy as a means to reduce that heat, but more likely he was planning something like this all along.

And it's relevant to keep this in mind:

May, 2017:


Oh, the irony.
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Yes, that’s almost certainly what’s actually going on.
 
jpn said:
Occam's razor: Barr is gas-lighting the media into believing that Barr is innocent as a rose. It was just total coincidence that the extremely rare act of reducing a recommended sentence occurred when Trump was demanding exactly that.
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The reason why Barr was in the position of overruling the recommendations of the prosecutors is because the DOJ was the direct supervisor of the trial. One might recall that this trial was based upon charges filed by Mr. Mueller, the special counsel, and thus was outside the normal chain of command of the DOJ.
These kinds of discussions and determinations happen all the time between a DA and the prosecutors who are directly involved in a trial.
Barr was annoyed because Trump's tweets made it harder for him to make that decision that it is his direct job to do.
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Erod said:
LOL, the constant freak-outs from you guys must be exhausting. Do you ever sleep or get anything productive done?
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Do you ever stop trolling long enough to get anything productive done?
 
roughdraft274 said:
The reason you post the way you do and just insult people without addressing the topic is because you can't defend the behavior so you side track the discussion. It's very obvious.
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That and he loves to troll.
 
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