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[W:91]**Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

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ecofarm said:
Transgender women are real woman entitled to all that women are entitled to. Transgender women are born female. Transgender women are not taking anything from anyone when they win a scholarship.
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No they are not.
 
Re: Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

ecofarm said:
Transgender women are real woman entitled to all that women are entitled to. Transgender women are born female. Transgender women are not taking anything from anyone when they win a scholarship.
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Now you're just being obtuse and ignoring the issue to push agenda talking points.

I'm 44, I'm 6'1" and I've been on HRT for 3 years. I'm far faster, stronger and still have more muscles than a majority of women my age without serious workouts, and if I were to dedicate to a competitive regime would be in the top 1% of women with far less effort.
It would be terribly unfair of me to enter a weight lifting competition against born female competitors. To play in most sports as a woman that require mass, lung capacity, strength.

PS we're not born female, we're born male with female brain chemistry structure, that doesn't make us FEMALE, (sex) it makes our GENDER, female.
 
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Renae said:
Now you're just being obtuse and ignoring the issue to push agenda talking points.
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You claimed transgender women are not "born female". I'm not interested in your claimed anecdotes.
 
Re: Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

ecofarm said:
You claimed transgender women are not "born female". I'm not interested in your claimed anecdotes.
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We aren't born female. We're born male. It's called biology. Our sex at birth, and death is Male. Our GENDER, is female. That's reality. You're stating a falsehood to excuse your behavior.
 
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Renae said:
We aren't born female. We're born male. It's called biology. Our sex at birth, and death is Male. Our GENDER, is female. That's reality. You're stating a falsehood to excuse your behavior.
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One is defined by the mind not the body. Transgender women are born female.
 
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ecofarm said:
One is defined by the mind not the body. Transgender women are born female.
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Now you're off in lala lala land.
 
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Renae said:
Now you're off in lala lala land.
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My PhD(c) specialization, like a minor for an undergrad degree, is gender.
 
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ecofarm said:
My PhD(c) specialization, like a minor for an undergrad degree, is gender.
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That is totally irrelevant and pointless to the discussion at hand. What you think and feel about yourself doesn't change the physical reality of ones "SEX". Ergo, you should probably give your PhD back as you've been poorly educated.
 
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Renae said:
That is totally irrelevant and pointless to the discussion at hand. What you think and feel about yourself doesn't change the physical reality of ones "SEX". Ergo, you should probably give your PhD back as you've been poorly educated.
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A transgender woman's mind is born female.
 
ecofarm said:
A transgender woman's mind is born female.
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But her body isn’t and that’s the point. With regard to athletics it is indisputable that someone born with male genetics has a significant physical advantage over someone born with female genetics in sports the require power production Even with HRT those advantages may be diminished but do not disappear.

The only question here is can the playing field be leveled so that the competition is fair to all and if it can’t do we disadvantage those born with female genetics in favor of those born with male genetics.

And “ it doesn’t matter because there aren’t many transgender athletes” is not an argument. It matters a whole hell of a lot to those who lose.
 
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Re: Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

ecofarm said:
Transgender women are not second-class women. They have every right to female scholarships. No significant, or perhaps any as you posted none, record breaking.

Transcends the sport means people not into the sport or event hear about. It means everyone hears about it. Olympic Gold. NCAA Championship, a major event. Not the 200m at one meet.
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they are not women. the closest term one can come to if they cut their dick off is eunuch.
 
ecofarm said:
A transgender woman's mind is born female.
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they examined thousands of transgender brains. they showed 0 signs of feminization. all brain structures were male.
 
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...It's a duck. I don't care if the duck thinks it's a mouse.
 
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ecofarm said:
You are, once again, with the bigots.
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So to make your point you are attacking the only open Male to Female transgender on the forum.

That is consistent with your view that any black person who does not accept they are inferior to white people and can not succeed with out the help of white men like you is a racist against black people. You don't debate these type topics with facts, but only with whatever is the SJW/PC slogan of the month.
 
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ludin said:
they are not women. the closest term one can come to if they cut their dick off is eunuch.
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Actually is cutting of their testicles.
 
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joko104 said:
So to make your point you are attacking the only open Male to Female transgender on the forum.

That is consistent with your view that any black person who does not accept they are inferior to white people and can not succeed with out the help of white men like you is a racist against black people. You don't debate these type topics with facts, but only with whatever is the SJW/PC slogan of the month.
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I'm not the only, just the most annoyingly loud :p. But yes that's his position.
 
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ecofarm said:
A transgender woman is a real woman. Your bigotry against them ("not real women") prevents honest analysis of costs and risks.

Hormone therapy to become a bio woman does not include steroids.
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You know the difference between the social definition of "woman" versus the biological difference of "female."

They are not females and you know it. So you play dumb, denying there is any difference between "gender" (a sociological definition) and "sex" (a biological definition).
 
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ecofarm said:
My PhD(c) specialization, like a minor for an undergrad degree, is gender.
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The topic is not sociological gender, but rather biological sex.

Whatever university you are studying in that does not know the difference between gender and sex must be some Internet or mail order university. :roll:
 
Re: Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

ecofarm said:
Transgender women are not second-class women. They have every right to female scholarships. No significant, or perhaps any as you posted none, record breaking.

Transcends the sport means people not into the sport or event hear about. It means everyone hears about it. Olympic Gold. NCAA Championship, a major event. Not the 200m at one meet.
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It causes many people to hate transgender or at least the transgender agenda.
 
jmotivator said:
Well, a Transgender has been cleared to compete in the women's Olympic marathon trials.

You've had a good run females, but women's sports are no longer for you.
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The transgender will win because of longer legs per height/weight, a higher center of gravity and a more areodynamic body due to thinner hips.

Men have always used politics and slogans to keep women out of their professions and always keep them at the bottom of the economic, career, status and political ladder. This is just another example of it.
 
Re: Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

ecofarm said:
Transgender women are not second-class women. They have every right to female scholarships. No significant, or perhaps any as you posted none, record breaking.

Transcends the sport means people not into the sport or event hear about. It means everyone hears about it. Olympic Gold. NCAA Championship, a major event. Not the 200m at one meet.
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Your claim is that it is all females who are not only second class citizens, but like fundamentalists Muslims female should not enter into athletics at all - that all athletics and all benefits from athletics should 100% only go to genetic males.

Do you also claim that females are just soul-less animals too, whose only purpose it to be baby factories and daycare for male's children?
 
Re: Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

ecofarm said:
One is defined by the mind not the body. Transgender women are born female.
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It is an absurd claim lacking any intellectual integrity.

Not one transgender or transexual on earth is a "female" - and you know that too. They can or are "women" as a social definition, but none are or ever can be female.
 
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