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[W:91]**Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

Mongidig said:
If Bruce Jenner turned into Caitlyn Jenner during his Olympic day's and decided to participate in a women's even would that be fair?
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Yes. Stop crying. The best you people can dredge up is a weight lifting event and an indoor cycling event. If a transgender woman ever makes it to the Olympics, let her compete. If she wins, it's a win for everyone.
 
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Hicup said:
No, you attend the one's in the basements of brown shirts, Antifa-esk, instead. ;)

Tim-
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The Antifas would cheerfully crush the skulls of Nazis. That is the point of the group. Anti-fascist. The Nazis hated LGBT people and sent them to the camps. It was the nazis that first used the pink triangle to identify LGBT people.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
Let’s gather round the gaslight... lol predictable lib. Knows he can’t defend policy, so denies it’s ever happened when we know it has.
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Your complaint is based on the word of three children. That's your evidence. Amazingly, that's enough evidence for you to condemn transgender people in sports. It's kinda like that was your intention the whole time and the "evidence" didn't really sway you.

If three high school children claimed Trump colluded with Putin, would you believe them?

You see, this incredible change in your standards of evidence belays bigoted motive.
 
ecofarm said:
Yes. Stop crying. The best you people can dredge up is a weight lifting event and an indoor cycling event. If a transgender woman ever makes it to the Olympics, let her compete. If she wins, it's a win for everyone.
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As long as the transgendered person has been on hormones for a minimum of a year and has the hormonal profile of a CIS female then they should be able to compete as a female.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
Let’s gather round the gaslight... lol predictable lib. He knows he can’t defend the policy, so denies it’s ever happened when we know it has.
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Do you ever follow the teachings of Jesus or is that against your religious beliefs?

Matthew 7:1-3

Matthew 7:12
 
ecofarm said:
Yes. Stop crying. The best you people can dredge up is a weight lifting event and an indoor cycling event. If a transgender woman ever makes it to the Olympics, let her compete. If she wins, it's a win for everyone.
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Unfortunately if he makes it to the Olympics he will have taken the spot of an actual deserving girl.
 
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ecofarm said:
I have international competitions at my house. And like that one, no one except those present care.
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You have no clothes.
 
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ecofarm said:
My advice is finish high school and get on with your life free from the pressure of bigot scumbag parents to file hate suits.
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except biological women want to have the right to excel and be recognized for their achievements in sports , just like Biological men.
 
ecofarm said:
It was a 200 meter sprint, a single event at an otherwise unknown cycling event on an indoor track (it's not even outside). She did not set a record time. Other women have finished faster than her. Any woman could have won, nothing was out of reach.

"Oh noes! A transgender woman won a 200 meter sprint at an indoor track cycling event no one has ever heard of!"

Yeah, end is nigh.
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In this you reduce every female in the event to NOTHING on behalf of one male competitor.
 
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ecofarm said:
No transgender person has ever won a sporting event of any significance and one probably never will. Perhaps 1% of people are transgender. Perhaps 1% of transgender people are athletes. Of transgender athletes, perhaps .01% will ever make it to the professional level. Transgender people do not exist in significant enough population to ever affect any sport. If a transgender person ever wins a significant event, it will change nothing and signify only a greater acceptance of transgender people.

The suit is fear-mongering and hate. There's no real issue.
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Rachel McKinnon Wins World Masters Title - Transgender Sport Debate

Does a world championship count as a sporting event? And don’t throw around words like this is just fear mongering or hate. It isn’t. Doping is against the rules because it gives people that dope an unfair advantage. The performance advantages from steroids can last a decade. Same with being a male after puberty.

There’s a reason we separate women’s sports. It has nothing to do with genitalia or gender identity. It has to do with biological differences between the genders that manifest at puberty. Size, strength, lung capacity, body fat, endurance, flexibility,etc are all different. It’s an insult to female athletes to force them to compete against trans athletes while also shaming and bullying them into not saying anything.


The category you compete in determines your competition, not the gender you identity with. Even making that argument is wrong and insulting to both trans and cis folk. Trans people have a right to be treated with respect and should have an opportunity to compete. But they don’t have a right to win. The only people who should be competing in women catagories are people born biologically female who have never taken male hormone treatment. And if they identify as a male, who cares? Everyone else can compete with the men. They just won’t win.... and winning is really what this is about.
 
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Lisa said:
Do you ever follow the teachings of Jesus or is that against your religious beliefs?

Matthew 7:1-3

Matthew 7:12
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What does Jesus command we pretend men are women in Mathew 7?

I don’t pretend to be a chick so I can judge people who do.
 
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ecofarm said:
Does that winky emote mean you're joking or too scared to honestly engage?
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What's to engage? We have yet to hear an argument for why people should compete based on gender identity rather than sex.
 
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Lisa said:
The Antifas would cheerfully crush the skulls of Nazis.
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lol. Antifa is a bunch of soy chugging beta males. They aren't crushing the skulls of anything, especially not some proud boy type that can singlehandedly wipe the floor with a whole group of them.
 
ecofarm said:
The best you people can dredge up is a weight lifting event and an indoor cycling event.
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Once again willfully ignoring the story from the actual article, in which 2 males now hold 15 different state titles that used to belong to 9 females.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
What does Jesus command we pretend men are women in Mathew 7?

I don’t pretend to be a chick so I can judge people who do.
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Transgdered people aren't pretending to be anything. That would be transvestites.

Transgendered people are born with the wrong gendered brain for their physical bodies. The gender of the brain cannot be changed so medical science changes the gender of the body with hormones and surgery to align as closely as medically possibly with their psychological gender identity or their brain gender.
 
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505 said:
lol. Antifa is a bunch of soy chugging beta males. They aren't crushing the skulls of anything, especially not some proud boy type that can singlehandedly wipe the floor with a whole group of them.
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The problem is in liberal cities those betas got the authorities on their side. They can menace you and threaten you and even assault you (Andy NGO) and if you beat the **** out of one you’ll go to jail
 
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Lisa said:
The Antifas would cheerfully crush the skulls of Nazis. That is the point of the group. Anti-fascist. The Nazis hated LGBT people and sent them to the camps. It was the nazis that first used the pink triangle to identify LGBT people.
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sure they are, keep telling yourself that.. :)

Tim-
 
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Lisa said:
Transgdered people aren't pretending to be anything. That would be transvestites.

Transgendered people are born with the wrong gendered brain for their physical bodies. The gender of the brain cannot be changed so medical science changes the gender of the body with hormones and surgery to align as closely as medically possibly with their psychological gender identity or their brain gender.
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They are pretending to be the opposite sex. And they are not.

You cannot become a woman if you are a man, you can only mutilate yourself and still be a man. It is delusion.
This is clearly mental illness
 
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Lisa said:
The gender of the brain cannot be changed so medical science changes the gender of the body with hormones and surgery...
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Hormone therapy and castration does not change the gender of the body. It produces mentally ill sterile people that still commit suicide at the same astronomical rate as before the "transition".
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
They are pretending to be the opposite sex. And they are not.

You cannot become a woman if you are a man, you can only mutilate yourself and still be a man. It is a delusion.
This is clearly a mental illness
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They are not pretending, despite your ignorance.
Transgdered people are not delusional because of they were then the medicine to treat delusions disorders who cure them, but it doesn't. That was tried a long time ago.

Being transgendred is not a mental illness.

Answers to Your Questions About Transgender People, Gender Identity, and Gender Expression

Gender Dysphoria

Religious belief and those who claim to have experienced a religious experience do tend to be delusional.

https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/defa...sig/is-faith-delusion-andrew-sims-editedx.pdf

Religious people on the average also tend to be less intelligent.

Are Religious People Really, On Average, Less Smart than Atheists? - Neuroscience News
 
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505 said:
Hormone therapy and castration does not change the gender of the body. It produces mentally ill sterile people that still commit suicide at the same astronomical rate as before the "transition".
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The DNA cannot be changed, but it is also irrelevant because we do not see the persons DNA nor do we experience life purely because of our DNA.


The suicide rate of transgdered people is closely linked to the quality and necessity of their medical care and the abuse they suffered before they came out and the abuse they suffer by hateful bigots because they are different. When trans people have the necessary care and are in a supportive environment their suicide rate is the same as the average.
 
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Lisa said:
They are not pretending, despite your ignorance.
Transgdered people are not delusional because of they were then the medicine to treat delusions disorders who cure them, but it doesn't. That was tried a long time ago.

Being transgendred is not a mental illness.

Answers to Your Questions About Transgender People, Gender Identity, and Gender Expression

Gender Dysphoria

Religious belief and those who claim to have experienced a religious experience do tend to be delusional.

https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/defa...sig/is-faith-delusion-andrew-sims-editedx.pdf

Religious people on the average also tend to be less intelligent.

Are Religious People Really, On Average, Less Smart than Atheists? - Neuroscience News
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Yes it is.

It is failure to accept a biological truth about yourself. It is mental illness and until the Homosexual agenda demanded otherwise it was universally regarded as mental illness. You are spreading social theory and not medical science. Gender dysphoria is mental illness and mutilation is not treatment.
 
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Lisa said:
The DNA cannot be changed, but it is also irrelevant because we do not see the persons DNA nor do we experience life purely because of our DNA.


The suicide rate of transgdered people is closely linked to the quality and necessity of their medical care and the abuse they suffered before they came out and the abuse they suffer by hateful bigots because they are different. When trans people have the necessary care and are in a supportive environment their suicide rate is the same as the average.
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That last paragraph is factually inaccurate. In Sweden where tolerance of sexual deviancy is very high a long term study found substantial increases in suicide and self harm among “gender reassigned” individuals

Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden
 
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ecofarm said:
It's high school. All their times are recorded and available for scholarship applications. The suit is hate based.

In don't believe my parenting abilities are in question here. But parents pushing their children into hate and bigotry through victimization... Well, we might need to discuss those.
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Parents wanting their children to have fair competitive play is not hate based.

That’s just the new race card. It’s idiot and childish. Then to drag parenting in to it? That disgusting. And progressives always pushing their idiotic ideas on others is where the friction starts. It’s not enough to be stupid on their own. Everyone else’s has to accept the stupid or they put some pink ***** hats on! Don’t you temp them!
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
That last paragraph is factually inaccurate. In Sweden where tolerance of sexual deviancy is very high a long term study found substantial increases in suicide and self harm among “gender reassigned” individuals

Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden
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I agree with their conclusion. The surgery by itself is not enough and there is much more than needs to be done.

Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
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