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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    I did not answer because its not corroborated yet.
    It is not "corroborated yet" if Barr knew what his own prosecutors were going to submit for recommendations? That is a queer statement.
    If you could quit trying to jump down my throat and read you would already have my answer.
    It is nonsense.

    A timeline of the extraordinary turn of events in the Roger Stone case - ABC News

    The question is did the prosecutors turn over something different to the DoJ than what they presented to the judge. If that remains uncorroborated, its not true.
    Again, this is such a queer idea....that DoJ prosecutors would be communicating something different to the judge....from their own bosses. It is funny to think that this team somehow went "rogue". Nonsense. Any more than the team prosecuting Flynn went rogue.....which is why his sentencing was suddenly reversed. Both teams were out of control.....according to the cult.
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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    It is not "corroborated yet" if Barr knew what his own prosecutors were going to submit for recommendations? That is a queer statement. It is nonsense.

    Again, this is such a queer idea....that DoJ prosecutors would be communicating something different to the judge....from their own bosses. It is funny to think that this team somehow went "rogue". Nonsense. Any more than the team prosecuting Flynn went rogue.....which is why his sentencing was suddenly reversed. Both teams were out of control.....according to the cult.
    **** that cult bull****. ALL I am doing is providing information and you seem to think I am spinning it somehow.

    1. I don't care about Stone. I really don't, he's a scumbag.
    2. The information isn't corroborated and the only way it will be is if the DoJ releases the information relayed to the DoJ and it proves different from that offered to the judge. I doubt they will do that unless forced by legal or political pressure.
    3. Due process is what really matters to me.

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    Tuesday evening A senior DOJ official tells reporters that they find the withdrawals of the prosecutors "surprising," but said the filing yesterday was "inconsistent with what we were told' the government would be recommending for Stone. The official said "it does" appear the withdrawals of the prosecutors, including at least one who resigned from DOJ, was done in protest of the department's reversal -- but the official declined to speak to the specifics of their circumstances.

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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    The information isn't corroborated and the only way it will be is if the DoJ releases the information relayed to the DoJ and it proves different from that offered to the judge.
    Uh, according to the source you keep posting all over the place, the spox has already thrown the prosecutors under the bus: "inconsistent with what we were told"....ie, they went rogue.....which is an insane argument..."we didn't know the prosecutors were going to do that, just like with Flynn"

    In cult land, deep state is real!
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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Uh, according to the source you keep posting all over the place, the spox has already thrown the prosecutors under the bus: "inconsistent with what we were told"....ie, they went rogue.....which is an insane argument..."we didn't know the prosecutors were going to do that, just like with Flynn"

    In cult land, deep state is real!
    In bull**** land bureaucrats have never acted to undermine our current President...ever.

    The truth is somewhere in-between and both know it.

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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    In bull**** land bureaucrats have never acted to undermine our current President...ever.

    The truth is somewhere in-between and both know it.
    Ah, is that who we are talking about.....federal prosecutors who work for the DoJ....are just "bureaucrats"......and these hoorible peeple were concetrated within the Stone, Flynn and Cohen prosecution teams! Deep state! What cultish nonsense.
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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Exactly what is the usual court oath administered? Go ahead and say it. She didn't tell the whole truth.
    Prospective jurors don't take that oath. Haven't you served on a jury before?
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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Exactly what is the usual court oath administered? Go ahead and say it. She didn't tell the whole truth.

    If you visit MSNBC, you are lying to yourself about your mental hygiene.
    "Do you and each of you solemnly swear that you will well and truly try and a true deliverance make between the United States and Roger Stone, the defendant at the bar, and a true verdict render according to the evidence, so help you God?"
    Don't believe something just because you want to.

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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Uh, according to the source you keep posting all over the place, the spox has already thrown the prosecutors under the bus: "inconsistent with what we were told"....ie, they went rogue.....which is an insane argument..."we didn't know the prosecutors were going to do that, just like with Flynn"

    In cult land, deep state is real!
    If there was such a thing as a 'Deep State' what form do you think it might take?

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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

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    If there was such a thing as a 'Deep State' what form do you think it might take?
    Smurfs. Riding unicorns. While mermaids spin hay into gold bars. The "deep state" is a psychotic and paranoid delusion designed to invalidate every criticism of Trump.
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    Re: Prosecutor withdraws from Roger Stone case

    Every day, millions of federal workers go to work, doing their jobs to the best of their abilities in accordance with the laws of the United States, and the regulations and policies that govern their particular tasks. That, I'm afraid, is what the "deep state" now is, according to Donald Trump and his cohorts: government workers, doing their jobs, following the rules; Lawyers following the law in the administration of justice; scientists gathering data and reporting the results; economists trying to suss out economic trends and counteract negative effects; educators teaching.

    When Dwight Eisenhower left office, he coined the phrase "Military-Industrial Complex" to describe what he saw as an unhealthy alliance between the arms industry and expansionist elements within the military acquisition leadership. This morphed over time into the far more amorphous "deep state" of paranoid minds and fiction writers (think, Manchurian Candidate). In the conspiratorial mind, any action which doesn't follow their precept of what "should" happen becomes evidence of the conspiracy, no, matter the mundane and easily identified root of the "deviation". Because Donald Trump has deviated so far from the norms and traditions (not to say rules and laws as well), there are innumerable activities that don't conform to his (fantasy) expectations.

    Thence we get to our current condition, fostered by the unfortunate accession of the party (and Congress), that normal people, doing normal things, for routine reasons become part of the grand "deep state" conspiracy.

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