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[W:164]What President Trump’s company charges the Secret Service

Re: What President Trump’s company charges the Secret Service

That's not true. The public is not asking for the records, the GAO and congress is. The law says an accounting will be provided to the GAO every 6 months. So where are the reports?

They're being hidden by the SS under Trumps orders. And you think that's OK?

I didn't say that I thought that it was OK, I merely gave you the reason why The Current Response And Position Bulletin will tell you why no one could possibly ever see those records.
 
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It is wrong for Mr. Con to over charge the government ...

Mr. Trump is merely charging what the "rack rate" is. Everyone knows that hotels NEVER charge less than the "rack rate".

... and take way too many playtime trips.

Mr. Trump is in charge of the whole country. Who are you to say what "too many" days off is for a person in that position. Remember, Mr. Trump knows more than you do.

Do you want me to remind you what he said so many times during his campaign? I am sure you can remember the promise he made to the American people.

Oh hell, you are talking about campaign promises. I thought that you were talking about reality.
 
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Do you really need a brush up on the emoluments clause?

I am a faithful reader of The Current Response And Position Bulletin so I know what is real and what the loony, left-wing, wacko, socialist, zany, pinko, nutbar, commies tell me about Mr. Trump is NOT real.

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Let me do a quick comparison of every other U.S. president in history. They stay at a hotel, and of course the secret service stays there too. The hotel is paid by the U.S. Taxpayers. The hotel manager goes home at night and the money goes to his corporate owners. In Trump's case, he stays at one of his resorts and the secret service does too. The U.S. taxpayer pays for their lodging, where does that money end up? Who's pocket is that money going into? Is it going into the pocket of Marriott Corporation, or Hilton? No, it's going into the pocket of the president of the United States. That's ILLEGAL

You OBVIOUSLY do not understand how this works.

The US government does NOT cut a cheque payable to "Donald John Trump" in order to pay the hotel bill. The US government cuts a cheque to an independent, legal, persona being "Trump Hotels International" and that cheque does NOT get deposited to Mr. Trump's personal bank account.

That means that the US government is NOT paying a dime to "Donald John Trump" and, since the the US government is NOT paying a dime to "Donald John Trump" that means that "Donald John Trump" does not receive a dime from the US government.

All of Mr. Trump's income is derived from his perfectly legal business enterprises and (since he gives away his whole salary as President) that means that there is no way that Mr. Trump is receiving any money at all from the US government.

That means that since Mr. Trump is NOT receiving any money at all from the US government, there is absolutely no way that he could be in violation of any so-called "Emoluments Clause".

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That's not true. The public is not asking for the records, the GAO and congress is. The law says an accounting will be provided to the GAO every 6 months. So where are the reports?

They're being hidden by the SS under Trumps orders. And you think that's OK?

Dear Anti Donald: I think your sarcasm detector is broken. ;)
 
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The "minor" difference is that the money for Mr. Trump's "vacations" seems destined to end up in Mr. Trump's pockets while there is no suggestion of such with regard to Mr. Obama's "vacations".

BTW, you appear to be overlooking the other "minor" point that the US taxpayers have covered MORE "vacation" expenses during Mr. Trump's 3.5 years in office than they covered during Mr. Obama's 8 years in office.
 
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I have no idea who "you people" are.

Biden charging rent = Okay

Trump property charging rent = Not okay

Claims of coercion are speculative nonsense.
That's your strawman argument.
What I object to is Trump charging the Secret Service top dollar while proclaiming that he gives them the rooms for free or a far reduced rate. It's flagrant featherbedding. I further object to the SS not reporting what they are paying, as required by law.
 
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No, he isn't. From that Post article;

"The Post sought to quantify one part of that spending — the money that goes directly to Trump’s own businesses.

Most of the 103 payments discovered by The Post went to just three Trump properties: the Trump International Hotel in Washington and the president’s clubs at Mar-a-Lago and Bedminster.
They showed that Trump had quickly shattered past precedent. Other recent presidents have allowed the Secret Service to use their properties — George H.W. Bush’s compound in Maine, Bill Clinton’s home in suburban New York, George W. Bush’s ranch in Texas — free, according to the Secret Service and spokespeople for those former presidents.

The Post could find only one other recent example of a president or vice president charging his own Secret Service rent. Former vice president Joe Biden charged $2,200 a month for a cottage on his property in Delaware. Unlike the payments to Trump, Biden’s payments were listed in public spending databases. Biden was paid a total of $171,600 over six years.
Trump exceeded that total within three months, records show." Why aren't these payments to Trump properties being listed in public spending databases? Not to mention that Biden isn't anywhere near being a billionaire.
The only question to me is if the prices were artifically inflated or not. If they were it requires an explination of why. Beyond that Trump is free to lodge anywhere he wants. The presidency isnt a prison sentence. He can stay in his own hotels and the SS will stay wherever they feel is best to protect him.


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I am a faithful reader of The Current Response And Position Bulletin so I know what is real and what the loony, left-wing, wacko, socialist, zany, pinko, nutbar, commies tell me about Mr. Trump is NOT real.

[The above form of "Internet Rebuttal" has been specifically and officially approved and endorsed by "Devoted Online Lovers of Trump" Inc. (a non-partisan, independent, research and analysis organization exempt from federal taxation that is dedicated to bringing you the true truth and not the false truth that anyone who doesn't believe 100% of what Donald Trump says tries to tell you the so-called "facts" are), "Pro-Life United Gun Enthusiasts and Manufacturers for Jesus", and “"TheFirst Amendment Rights Trust’ Foundation”.]

Your posts are just too difficult for my eyes to read.
 
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You OBVIOUSLY do not understand how this works.

[The above legal opinion, has been provided by the law firm of Wieselwort, du Plicité, Poco-Escrupuloso, Flerd, and Corrotto LLP, was paid for and has been officially approved and endorsed by "Devoted Online Lovers of Trump" Inc. (a non-partisan, independent, research and analysis organization exempt from federal taxation that is dedicated to bringing you the true truth and not the false truth that anyone who doesn't believe 100% of what Donald Trump says tries to tell you the so-called "facts" are), "Pro-Life United Gun Enthusiasts and Manufacturers for Jesus", and “"TheFirst Amendment Rights Trust’ Foundation”.]

The only reason that Trump is able to wiggle his slimy racketeering ass out of lawsuits for multiple violations of the emoluments clause is because he has Bill Barr and the Federal courts in his back pocket. In normal times, without the fascist leader controlling the DOJ, his ass would have been in prison 3 years ago.

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Hotels aren't supposed to charge for rooms?

Liberals want the Secret Service in tents out in the parking lot?

Can't make this stuff up; liberal outrage over nothing is never-ending.

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Trump Jr. claims they is only charge "minimal" fees and then jacks up the price for rooms instead. If any other President was doing this you would be livid. Why does Trump get a pass? The worst part is that he has the Secret Service covering for him by not releasing the required cost info.

This directly contradicts President Donald Trump’s claims that his company only charges the government minimal fees or “at cost.” In an interview with Yahoo Finance in 2019, the president’s son Eric, who is executive vice president of the Trump Organization, said, “If [the president] stays at one of his places, the government actually… saves a fortune because, if they were to go to a hotel across the street, they’d be charging them $500 a night, whereas, you know we charge them, like 50 bucks.”

But that is simply not true. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago property charged the government $650 per night for a room in 2017 “dozens” of times. And in 2018 they charged $396.15 per night “dozens” more times. At Trump’s New Jersey property, Trump National Golf Club Bedminster, the Secret Service was charged $17,000 per month (around $565 per night) for a three-bedroom cottage — double the rate for comparable properties in the area. Normally, the federal government limits spending on accommodations to $182 per night.

Trump Charges Secret Service $650 a Night for a Room in His Properties - Rolling Stone
 
Re: What President Trump’s company charges the Secret Service

Well, you excluded rich black college students specifically.
No I didn't.
 
Re: What President Trump’s company charges the Secret Service

No I didn't.

Sure you did.


Sounds like a winning campaign issue. So long as Democrats are fixated on things that nobody but rich, white college students and the suburban, HOA fairness police care about, prospects for Trump will continue to look bright.

Why not rich black college students?
 
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Sure you did.
Quote me where I "excluded rich black college students specifically."
 
Re: What President Trump’s company charges the Secret Service

Quote me where I "excluded rich black college students specifically."

Sounds like a winning campaign issue. So long as Democrats are fixated on things that nobody but rich, white college students and the suburban, HOA fairness police care about, prospects for Trump will continue to look bright.

Not rich, black college students.
 
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Not rich, black college students.
Right, so you specifically mentioned rich, black college students. Not me. I no more specified them than I did Asian amputees or retirees from New Guinea.
 
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Did you ever here(sic) of a thing known as inflation?

Yes, I do know what inflation is. As another commenter has noted, Joe Biden during his time as Vice President charged the Secret Service $2200/month for the cottage on his property. $2200 in 2011 dollars equals $2,513.32 today. Hmmm, so you would like to believe that $17,000/month is equivalent to $2500/month?
 
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That you need this explained to you says it all.

Rent = Bad when charged by people who aren't Democrats

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That's your strawman argument.
What I object to is Trump charging the Secret Service top dollar while proclaiming that he gives them the rooms for free or a far reduced rate. It's flagrant featherbedding. I further object to the SS not reporting what they are paying, as required by law.

Nope.
A deceitful politician? :shock: Ditto. Write your congressperson; I'm sure they're JUST as corrupt as Trump. :thumbs:
 
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