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BERNIE SANDERS rips PETE BUTTIGIEG ties to billionaires in fiery NEW HAMPSHIRE speech

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Bernie says Pete is taking money from rich people.


Does it mean rich people will own Buttigieg?
 
Remember guys, rule #1 of 2020 is to not listen to Trump supporters when they complain about Democrats or attempt to create conflict where there is none.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Remember guys, rule #1 of 2020 is to not listen to Trump supporters when they complain about Democrats or attempt to create conflict where there is none.
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It is a good speech though.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Remember guys, rule #1 of 2020 is to not listen to Trump supporters when they complain about Democrats or attempt to create conflict where there is none.
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Are you saying Dems are the only ones allowed playing that game? Just checking.
 
swing_voter said:



Bernie says Pete is taking money from rich people.


Does it mean rich people will own Buttigieg?
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From which of his many houses did Bernie complain about rich people?
 
Bernie is wrong about compensation/productivity. You have to look at total compensation, not just wages, and total compensation has been rising with productivity.

He keeps making the same false claim over and over.
 
He says Amazon paid zero income tax, because he's too stupid to understand that corporations only pay taxes on profits.
 
swing_voter said:
[video=youtube;vrZlMRlzGlE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrZlMRlz


Bernie says Pete is taking money from rich people.


Does it mean rich people will own Buttigieg?
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Trump supporters/Russian trolls dividing Democrats.
 
swing_voter said:
Bernie says Pete is taking money from rich people.


Does it mean rich people will own Buttigieg?
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Oh my god!!!!! Buttigieg is taking donations from Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS SO UNFAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Remember guys, rule #1 of 2020 is to not listen to Trump supporters when they complain about Democrats or attempt to create conflict where there is none.
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Democrats are going to eat their own before it's over. The candidates will have to go to war with one another to win the nomination and they have shown they are willing to do so. Attacks on Biden but nearly every candidate in the debates, attacks by Warren on Bernie, Hillary's attacks on Bernie. The supporters of Bernie got cheated in 2016 and if Bernie gets shafted this time you can expect a good number to stay home on election day. Democrats and Bernie are just using each other.
 
aociswundumho said:
Bernie is wrong about compensation/productivity. You have to look at total compensation, not just wages, and total compensation has been rising with productivity.

He keeps making the same false claim over and over.
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No it hasn't.

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Jredbaron96 said:
No it hasn't.
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Charts like the one you posted have all kinds of problems. Here's how it works in theory: if an employee can produce $20 per hour in value, then it's worth it to an employer to pay him close to that number, (but not over). Employers have no choice but to bid up wages as employees become more productive, if this wasn't happening then they would all just pay the legal minimum wage.

Here's an article from a source you are going to hate, but it does clearly explain some of the many problems when trying to calculate this stuff:

Productivity and Compensation: Growing Together | The Heritage Foundation
 
aociswundumho said:
Charts like the one you posted have all kinds of problems. Here's how it works in theory: if an employee can produce $20 per hour in value, then it's worth it to an employer to pay him close to that number, (but not over). Employers have no choice but to bid up wages as employees become more productive, if this wasn't happening then they would all just pay the legal minimum wage.

Here's an article from a source you are going to hate, but it does clearly explain some of the many problems when trying to calculate this stuff:

Productivity and Compensation: Growing Together | The Heritage Foundation
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Sherk tries, but he falls flat. He oversells the inflation aspect and justifies the compensation through things like health insurance, even though most low income workers don't have health insurance:

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Second, the numbers don't add up. Median household income in 1973 was $48,000. Since then, productivity has increased between 70% and 140% (There is a LOT of variety on that), but if median income had kept pace with productivity (and median income is a far better indicator of how people are doing vs mean income), then the median income would be between $82,000 and $115,000. But it isn't, it's $59,000.

Lastly, my first chart was from the Federal Reserve, not a left wing think tank. So if you do have a better counter, please refrain from right wing sources.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Remember guys, rule #1 of 2020 is to not listen to Trump supporters when they complain about Democrats or attempt to create conflict where there is none.
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Yeah, seriously! Why would anyone pay any attention to their nonsense. World leaders don’t pay attention to their hero,
 
aociswundumho said:
Bernie is wrong about compensation/productivity. You have to look at total compensation, not just wages, and total compensation has been rising with productivity.

He keeps making the same false claim over and over.
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Interesting! I'd never heard this argument before. Do you have a source/data for this?

Edit: read the thread and saw your other post. Thanks!
 
Jredbaron96 said:
So if you do have a better counter, please refrain from right wing sources.
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Let's try this: Do you disagree with the theory of why compensation stays close to productivity? If yes, explain why.
 
aociswundumho said:
Bernie is wrong about compensation/productivity. You have to look at total compensation, not just wages, and total compensation has been rising with productivity.

He keeps making the same false claim over and over.
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There is no economical reason for a system where the bottom half of a country owns less than a singular percentage or even 2 or 3 or 5.

If people make the country great, people should have more of the wealth that makes that country great.

Seems simple enough to me and I don't even like Bernie.

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Jredbaron96 said:
What theory?
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Suppose an employee can produce $20 per hour in value. If you, as an employer, can get him to work for you for $10, that would be a great bargain, but you won't get him for that, because he'll get offers from other employers for more. He will end up getting paid close to the amount of value he produces (but not more). Hence employers have no choice but to bid up wages (more accurately total compensation) as employees become more productive. That's why compensation is always close to productivity.
 
Hatuey said:
There is no economical reason for a system where the bottom half of a country owns less than a singular percentage or even 2 or 3 or 5.
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Someone getting richer doesn't make you poorer. There isn't a fixed pie of wealth.
 
swing_voter said:


Bernie says Pete is taking money from rich people.

Does it mean rich people will own Buttigieg?
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WILL own?

DO own.

Booty = Chosen Democrat Reptile of 2020
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Remember guys, rule #1 of 2020 is to not listen to Trump supporters when they complain about Democrats or attempt to create conflict where there is none.
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Translation:

"If it's noon, and someone in a MAGA hat says it's noon, it isn't noon."

:donkeyfla
 
Lovebug said:
Are you saying Dems are the only ones allowed playing that game? Just checking.
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Democrat Motto:

"One rule for me, another for thee."
 
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