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Sen. Mitt Romney will vote to convict Trump, breaking with fellow Republicans

Jredbaron96 said:
8 years ago I swear nearly every conservative on this forum was proclaiming Romney the only hope to save America from Obama.

And now he's a traitor for thinking Trump broke his oath of office.
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No one likes a turncoat. Especially one who BEGGED Trump to support him. Perhaps he will switch parties.
 
Former Mitt Romney Adviser Serves as Director for Ukrainian Company at Center of Trump Whistleblower Complaint

Joseph Cofer Black: “I am excited to join Burisma’s Board of Directors and to focus on strategic development and security issues to expand Burisma’s global opportunities”

Romney has no choice. The more trump scrutinizes the ukraine, the more corrupt politicians on both sides will be exposed.


Just like Pelosis family is exposed in the ukraine.



Romney isnt breaking with anything.

He holds the same corrupt establishment offshoring defense position he held years ago.
 
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Anthony60 said:
You misspelled "smart".
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You have a point. those three did the "smart" thing (well maybe not Alexander) and saved their skin for a few more months at least. They would simply get crushed by the base, or worse, start receiving death threats or parcel bombs. So yeah, it was smart.
 
NeverTrump said:
Dude Trump was a liberal before he promoted birtherism and then you all were like, yeah that's a great thing to support! He's our man! Down with the black guy! Trump got so brainwashed by the Fox News/talk radio propaganda machine, that he just gave Rush Limbaugh a medal.
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I do not remember Trump ever supporting lefty ideas.
The fact that he registered as a Democrat is meaningless because he was Donald Trump, thus his party was "The Party of Trump", no matter what he registered as.
 
Anagram said:
Unlikely that would be found to be constitutional even if it passed. There's no SCOTUS case directly on point, but it runs afoul of the principles of Term Limits and all other federal recall laws have been found to be unconstitutional in lower/state courts when they have been challenged.
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That needs to be fixed. If we can recall the POTUS, anyone should be eligible.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Sen. Mitt Romney will vote to convict Trump, breaking with fellow Republicans - POLITICO
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) will vote to convict President Donald Trump in the impeachment trial on the charge of abuse of power, becoming the only Republican to break with the president and his party.

I've been appalled by the silence of people describing themselves as conservatives and libertarians throughout this process. I'm glad there is at least one Republican with the courage to stand up against Trump. Bravo Senator Romney!
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Mitt Romney just voted "Guilty"...

Mitt Romney will be forever remembered as the Benedict Arnold of the Second American Revolution.

A traitorous endeavor that for a second time will result in failure and tarnish yet another American name.
 
WCH said:
That needs to be fixed. If we can recall the POTUS, anyone should be eligible.
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POTUS can't be recalled either. There is a mechanism in the Constitution for removal of congress members just like there is for POTUS. But recall is not it, and IMO should not be.
 
Herkamer63 said:
I would like to address the Never-Trump Republicans/Independents on here because they need to read this:

Some of you proclaim yourselves as conservatives while some of you proclaim yourselves to be moderates. You sound good and there are many things that you say that many of us agree with. You have a great way with words, making them sound sophisticated, intelligent, and inspirational. The way you present yourself in a physical matter, you always dress well and look well trimmed. Among others that think a lot, you hold many discussions of certain scenarios that would be defined by the status quo. You proclaim to be fair and unbiased in your decision making while trying to avoid conflict with both sides of the aisle and see yourselves as peacemakers instead of troublemakers. You see yourselves as the arbiters of intellectual thought and expert analysts of politics and of life.

However, when REAL conflict comes fourth, what every non-Leftist outside of your group sees is anything but what you think of yourselves as. You sees yourselves as several steps above everyone else and you look down your noses at those they say they agree with. When something you presented as a solution to a problem arises, you it down and say it isn't the time to fix it, although it's the perfect time to do so. When you are presented with something that can make a positive difference, you runaway and say it's only going to create more problems. Whenever you go to vote or when it comes to a debate with a non-Leftist, you take the side of the Left instead of the moderate/conservative side of the debate.

While you proclaim to be fair, you seek to destroy those who are trying to implement the very things YOU preach and advocate on. For some in your groups, you're quick to try and get a position that would be considered of high honor and respect, not because you believe in but rather to bring glory to you rather than honoring the job at hand. Then when you don't get it, you throw a temper tantrum and make whoever it is your enemy because they didn't pick you, and you try to wreck the person that didn't hire you. In this case, convicting an innocent man of crimes that he didn't do nor any of evidence to back up these baseless claims.

You guys are weak, timid, wolves in sheep's skin, a brood of vipers against those that may agree with what you have to say, and you're not any better than a full blown Leftist because, in the end, you end up supporting the Left's agenda. In short, you're not conservative nor moderate (regardless if you lean Left or Right). You're Leftists and elitists. That's Pierre Delecto (in who we call Mitt Romney), and what he did was spineless and gutless because he knows Trump didn't do anything and knows there is no evidence to support what the Left claims. He, like many of these Never-Trumpers, more than likely got bribed, either yesterday or early this morning, money or more power, and he accepted. Plus he wanted to get revenge on Trump anyway for not hiring him onto his cabinet. So what better way to do it than through impeachment?

As I said earlier, Romney, like these Never Trumpers who proclaim to be conservative/moderate but end up supporting the Left, is spineless. But it won't matter. Trump will be acquitted and win reelection this November. It's just the Democrats now have a campaign issue that will hurt them by the end of this election cycle and the Republicans will control the House, Senate, and the White House. Oh well, at least Romney tried. KAG 2020!
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Our Republic has approximately 327 million citizens and with a nation this large it is inevitable that no matter which policies we prefer we will not always get what we want. Yes, it's true that allowing people with whom we disagree to participate in the same political and legal system sometimes leads to results we don't like, but that is part of the cost of living in a free, democratic society that promotes individual liberty under the rule of law. Trump supporters have the right to pursue the policies they prefer but they do not have the right to destroy the Republic in the process. The Republic, and the Constitution that serves as its foundation, is more important than any one particular policy.
 
uptower said:
Thanks, a little gallows humor is needed at this point.
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It was well known that Trump would not be removed from office which would have required 20 republicant Senate votes. To act shocked that few (if any) republicants would favor impeachment/removal is Pelosi/Schiff level dishonesty.
 
Lutherf said:
I suspect that fact has more to do with Romney's decision than anything else. He knew Trump would be acquitted but simply didn't want Trump to get off without that "bipartisan" asterisk.

In the end, Trump won't give a damn about impeachment or an asterisk but it's a good bet that the Utah voters will.
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Utah is one place where Trump isn't very popular.
 
Anagram said:
POTUS can't be recalled either. There is a mechanism in the Constitution for removal of congress members just like there is for POTUS. But recall is not it, and IMO should not be.
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In any case, Willard pulled the wool over Utah's eyes.
 
ClaraD said:
Utah is one place where Trump isn't very popular.
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While Romney's vote seems to be entirely about Trump the process was more about nullifying the Constitution and I cant help but believe that the people of Utah understand that aspect.
 
redrover said:
Hopefully at this time next year there will be many fewer Trump Republicans in government. Don Jr. is already tweeting that Mitt should be expelled from the party for his treason.
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Empirica said:
Mitt Romney just voted "Guilty"...

Mitt Romney will be forever remembered as the Benedict Arnold of the Second American Revolution.

A traitorous endeavor that for a second time will result in failure and tarnish yet another American name.
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Hes anything but a revolutionary, and thats a good thing.

That the last Republican presidential nominee voted to convict the man who followed him is remarkable. It really shows how much the party has changed in just a couple of years. You could see it coming with McConnell's Supreme Court theft. Nothing is scared to these guys, beyond protecting their own power. And that power runs through one man, and him alone.
 
Bullseye said:
Given Biden's alleged piss-poor performance in Iowa seems like that charge would be moot. Getting less and less likely that Biden WILL be a campaign opponent.

Romney should be recalled by Utahans.
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Don't worry, Romney won't be recalled. He is still very much liked and respected here.
 
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