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As others stand at attention for anthem, Trump fidgets, points, pretend-conducts the band

Crosscheck said:
Whatever sarge, the videos don't lie . I know it must burn the hell of you to see him prancing around like an idiot but you won't admit it. But we know...…
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Him "prancing around like an idiot" doesn't impact me at all nor did Obama fumbling speeches without a teleprompter. I prefer results to rhetoric and what we have now is a President whose policies are generating positive results. He is also a President the liberals aren't used to, one that fights back.

Not sure what kind of President you want but I want one generating these kind of results. apparently employment in context doesn't matter
 
W_Heisenberg said:
As others stand at attention for anthem, Trump fidgets, points, pretend-conducts the band

During the national anthem at his own Super Bowl party, a brief video posted to Instagram shows Trump greeting guests, adjusting his chair, and straightening his jacket as other attendees, including Melania Trump, stand with their hands over their hearts.

Now, imagine, just for a moment, the uproar, if Obama had done this.
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Another liberal charge debunked!! How many wins must Trump generate before people like you admit that you are wrong

Appeals court hands Trump win, rules Dem lawmakers cannot sue over business payments | Fox News
 
Metric Mouse said:
Sure, President Trump engages in behavior very similar to behavior he has criticized in the past; but that's only newsworthy to people who have been under a rock since he was elected. I'm pretty sure there are zero of those people on this political forum. But his hypocrisy on some issues is only reflective of himself, and can't be generalized to others.
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Oh MM, thanks for the laughs. You really should have started the discussion with "sure, trump is a flaming xxxxbag of dishonesty and hypocrisy, that's not newsworthy". It would have been more honest than the "nuh uh's" and the dumb routine. But neither of them address the fact that trump made the national anthem an issue worthy of discussion.

Unless of course you're suggesting "conservatives" were correct to criticize previous presidents, and now wonder why they are not criticizing President Trump?
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oh look, "questions" as if you're making a point. yep, thats what conservatives do. Anyhoo, my point was clear and straight forward. You and yours ranted about everything President Obama did (real and imagined). You and yours obedient "what's the big deal?" with trump's current flamingly gutless hypocrisy only proves you and yours hypocrisy.
 
Quote Originally Posted by W_Heisenberg View Post
As others stand at attention for anthem, Trump fidgets, points, pretend-conducts the band

During the national anthem at his own Super Bowl party, a brief video posted to Instagram shows Trump greeting guests, adjusting his chair, and straightening his jacket as other attendees, including Melania Trump, stand with their hands over their hearts.
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Now, imagine, just for a moment, the uproar, if Obama had done this.
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As pointed out by others, it was at a private party with the video shot stealthy, on a cell phone over the shoulder of a person helping block the user from being seen. How many of you at home or a private party, watching a ball game, set down your beer and chips, get your butt up off the sofa and stand with your hand over heart?

In private is one thing, on stage in public is another.

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Conservative said:
Him "prancing around like an idiot" doesn't impact me at all nor did Obama fumbling speeches without a teleprompter. I prefer results to rhetoric and what we have now is a President whose policies are generating positive results. He is also a President the liberals aren't used to, one that fights back.

Not sure what kind of President you want but I want one generating these kind of results. apparently employment in context doesn't matter
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Here is some context for you. Talk to your financial advisor and find out how our tax brackets are going to change in 2025 to make up for the tax reform Trump pushed to help corporations.
Even if he wins re-election he will be on his horse out of town before the crap falls.
 
Crosscheck said:
Here is some context for you. Talk to your financial advisor and find out how our tax brackets are going to change in 2025 to make up for the tax reform Trump pushed to help corporations.
Even if he wins re-election he will be on his horse out of town before the crap falls.
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You think the American people give a damn about 2025? Vote for a Democrat and see what happens?
 
W_Heisenberg said:
As others stand at attention for anthem, Trump fidgets, points, pretend-conducts the band

During the national anthem at his own Super Bowl party, a brief video posted to Instagram shows Trump greeting guests, adjusting his chair, and straightening his jacket as other attendees, including Melania Trump, stand with their hands over their hearts.

Now, imagine, just for a moment, the uproar, if Obama had done this.
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It was a stunning display of unbalanced behavior.
 
Conservative said:
You think the American people give a damn about 2025? Vote for a Democrat and see what happens?
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Republicans have just kicked the can down the street. Just as they have kicked the can down the street regarding the $32 trillion dollar deficit.

If you don't believe me then talk to a financial advisor or someone with financial knowledge and see how taxes are going to strangle the working members.
 
Crosscheck said:
Republicans have just kicked the can down the street. Just as they have kicked the can down the street regarding the $32 trillion dollar deficit.

If you don't believe me then talk to a financial advisor or someone with financial knowledge and see how taxes are going to strangle the working members.
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32 trillion dollar deficit?? Really?? Where did you get that number? Further do you have any idea what debt Trump inherited and the debt service on that debt? Why don't you spend a little more time researching instead of passing off false media reports as fact? Stunning ignorance of what you pay in taxes, their purpose and the line items in the budget. That is what liberalism has done, the dumbing down of Americans
 
Marine Electric said:
The man is an idiot, a criminal and a slob.

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LOL, this coming from a New Yorker who like California are living in two of the most corrupt states in the nation, highest cost of living in the nation, having the most poverty in the nation, and the largest wage gap in the nation. You and the anti Trump crowd have ZERO Credibility
 
Trump could burn the flag and then put out the fire by pissing on it and his cult like mindless minions would still defend him.

I am so embarrassed as an American having this PoS as president, I am more embarrassed by the millions of Americans who hated Obama but now defend Trump, and all because of race. I have to admit I am surprised by how racist this country still is. Maybe I'm naive, IDK..
 
Conservative said:
LOL, this coming from a New Yorker who like California are living in two of the most corrupt states in the nation, highest cost of living in the nation, having the most poverty in the nation, and the largest wage gap in the nation. You and the anti Trump crowd have ZERO Credibility
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Wage gap is a national issue. As far as "most poverty" - you're dead wrong. But what's new, a misinformed "conservative" isn't exactly a rarity today.

TRUTH: The five richest states have both legislative chambers controlled by Democrats – Maryland, New Jersey, Hawaii, Massachusetts and Connecticut. Overall, Democrats dominate the 20 richest states.

Meanwhile, eighteen of the 19 poorest states have legislatures where both chambers are Republican controlled. New Mexico (46th richest, fifth poorest) is Democratic. But there isn’t another blue or purple state until you get to purple Maine (31st richest, 20th poorest) with its “split” legislature of one party in each chamber. All the states in between (such as Tennessee and Florida) are Republican, both chambers. So is Michigan, where Republicans hold all high state offices (where Donald Trump won in 2016).

Sorry that the TRUTH smacked you right between the eyes but it had to be done.

Midterms: Poorest states have Republican legislatures

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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Trump could burn the flag and then put out the fire by pissing on it and his cult like mindless minions would still defend him.

I am so embarrassed as an American having this PoS as president, I am more embarrassed by the millions of Americans who hated Obama but now defend Trump, and all because of race. I have to admit I am surprised by how racist this country still is. Maybe I'm naive, IDK..
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Trump can do nothing right in the eyes of radicals like you who obviously needs that massive nanny state gov't provided by European countries. Have you ever considered moving there? The American majority get it, when will you. Think the American people want to risk the economic results generated by voting for a socialist? I know you will but you are in the minority as the majority believe in the private sector and the results Trump is generating

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval - Economy
 
@Conservative - Quite frankly, I'm tired of MY tax dollars always going to support you red-state moochers -- especially when you ignorantly support this criminal idiot in the WH and won't take the time to educate yourselves -- and instead, just repeat and believe the obvious lies you hear from the radical right-wing media, whose only purpose is to trick you into voting directly against your own best interest.

WE knew Trump was an idiot clown a long time ago, now everyone knows.

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Marine Electric said:
Wage gap is a national issue. As far as "most poverty" - you're dead wrong. But what's new, a misinformed "conservative" isn't exactly a rarity today.

TRUTH: The five richest states have both legislative chambers controlled by Democrats – Maryland, New Jersey, Hawaii, Massachusetts and Connecticut. Overall, Democrats dominate the 20 richest states.

Meanwhile, eighteen of the 19 poorest states have legislatures where both chambers are Republican controlled. New Mexico (46th richest, fifth poorest) is Democratic. But there isn’t another blue or purple state until you get to purple Maine (31st richest, 20th poorest) with its “split” legislature of one party in each chamber. All the states in between (such as Tennessee and Florida) are Republican, both chambers. So is Michigan, where Republicans hold all high state offices (where Donald Trump won in 2016).

Sorry that the TRUTH smacked you right between the eyes but it had to be done.

Midterms: Poorest states have Republican legislatures

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No, wage gaps are state and local issues as we have 50 independent states with 50 different costs of livings in those states. Define rich to us since obviously those Blue states aren't seeing the poor getting any of it? People make a choice of where to live and are fleeing high taxed blue states, why is that?

The link you post is irrelevant because it ignores the cost of living in those states and the low state and local taxes in Red States. You are biased because obviously you are fine but others in your state aren't. Cost of living matters as does what I continue to post on the numbers in poverty, homeless, the quality of life index, wage gap, cost of living all which you ignore
 
Marine Electric said:
@conservative - Quite frankly, I'm tired of MY tax dollars always going to support you red-state moochers -- especially when you ignorantly support this criminal idiot in the WH and won't take the time to educate yourselves -- and instead, just repeat what you hear from the radical right-wing media, whose only purpose is to trick you into voting directly against your own best interest.

WE knew Trump was an idiot clown a long time ago, now everyone knows.

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WHY ARE PEOPLE FLEEING BLUE STATES!! the takers are the liberal elite bureaucrats who have power thanks to people like you

Why don't you educate yourself, what red states get from the Federal gov't is part of the discretionary budget of the United States and funds federal mandates that go not only to Republicans but Democrats. Up until Trump all your blue state high state and local taxes were being deducted from your federal return whereas Red States didn't have those deductions. You are simply clueless when it comes to the taxes you pay or their purpose.
 
Conservative said:
WHY ARE PEOPLE FLEEING BLUE STATES!! the takers are the liberal elite bureaucrats who have power thanks to people like you

Why don't you educate yourself, what red states get from the Federal gov't is part of the discretionary budget of the United States and funds federal mandates that go not only to Republicans but Democrats. Up until Trump all your blue state high state and local taxes were being deducted from your federal return whereas Red States didn't have those deductions. You are simply clueless when it comes to the taxes you pay or their purpose.
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You're just throwing out sound bites that have no relevance to this conversation - because you just got schooled and you're desperately grasping at something, anything.

We've been supporting your red butts for years - and you're not even appreciative. Why would I not know about my property taxes? That makes NO sense. Meanwhile, the population of NY continues to grow.

:2wave:
 
Marine Electric said:
You're just throwing out sound bites that have no relevance to this conversation - because you just got schooled and you're desperately grasping at something, anything.

We've been supporting your red butts for years - and you're not even appreciative.

:2wave:
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You are right, facts have no place in the liberal ideology that you promote. Me getting schooled? Why is it that liberals like you are legends in your own mind and so arrogant that you cannot accept real data. Cost of living isn't national, it is local due to 50 independent states with different tax structures, wages thus cost of living. Noticed you ignored the fact that Blue states have higher state and local taxes than red states and were deducting them fully from their federal returns until the Trump tax cuts put a cap. that really pisses you off, doesn't it? So what you do is ignore that by claiming your federal tax dollars limited by the high deductions you were receiving were going to fund Federal mandates at the state and local level. You really have no understanding of what those federal dollars fund, do you? Couldn't have anything to do with actual federal expenses like military bases, retirees, etc, right??
 
Conservative said:
Trump can do nothing right in the eyes of radicals like you who obviously needs that massive nanny state gov't provided by European countries. Have you ever considered moving there? The American majority get it, when will you. Think the American people want to risk the economic results generated by voting for a socialist? I know you will but you are in the minority as the majority believe in the private sector and the results Trump is generating

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval - Economy
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Are you a real person or a bot? Seriously, this is a thread about Trump disrespecting the flag and anthem, and you spew the some old same old trash about the economy..

You use the same words, the same phrases, the same 'radicals' name calling. You remind me of the old apple 1984 commercial where all the people are portrayed as robots who can't think for themselves. They just obey their 'master'.. YOU are one of those robots...

They do the same thing, they say the same things over, and over, and over, and over, and over.................
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Are you a real person or a bot? Seriously, this is a thread about Trump disrespecting the flag and anthem, and you spew the some old same old trash about the economy..

You use the same words, the same phrases, the same 'radicals' name calling. You remind me of the old apple 1984 commercial where all the people are portrayed as robots who can't think for themselves. They just obey their 'master'.. YOU are one of those robots...

They do the same thing, they say the same things over, and over, and over, and over, and over.................
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Didn't bother you when Obama did it? There isn't anything Trump can do to get your support thus making you a waste of time. Here you go, comrade, exactly what you are looking for, HAPPY BIRTHDAY KARL MARX

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Marine Electric said:
You're just throwing out sound bites that have no relevance to this conversation - because you just got schooled and you're desperately grasping at something, anything.

We've been supporting your red butts for years - and you're not even appreciative. Why would I not know about my property taxes? That makes NO sense. Meanwhile, the population of NY continues to grow.

:2wave:
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Happy Birthday KARL MARX. The radical liberals like you salute him

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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Are you a real person or a bot? Seriously, this is a thread about Trump disrespecting the flag and anthem, and you spew the some old same old trash about the economy..

You use the same words, the same phrases, the same 'radicals' name calling. You remind me of the old apple 1984 commercial where all the people are portrayed as robots who can't think for themselves. They just obey their 'master'.. YOU are one of those robots...

They do the same thing, they say the same things over, and over, and over, and over, and over.................
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Barack Obama and the National Anthem
 
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