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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    Do you think you could get the Palistinians to at least give an inch by admitting that Israel has a right to exist?
    Israel has every right to exist. It has no right to exert undue imperialist policies that oppress people for no reason other than the sick desire of pro war nationalists that form a large portion of their electorate.

    International law exists for a reason.

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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by Questerr View Post
    UN definition: "… rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area.

    That’s exactly describes the Israel settlement campaign.
    Picky, picky, picky.
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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    You are making conclusory statements without articulating a principle as to why they should be so, Irredentist.

    Why, as someone who is pro-Israel, would I want to see the creation of a Palestinian state. Pretend it was your job to convince me. What exactly is your sales pitch simply beyond you and the Palestinian people wanting it?
    Because it is hypocritical to support the right of one people, the Israelis, to have their own nation, while simultaneously denying that same right to another people who live right next to them. If Palestine has no right to exist, then why does Israel?

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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
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    This just in, two corrupt leaders under investigation by their own people and universally hated in the middle east offer a new middle east "peace plan" they consulted no one on that involves Israel annexing more of Palestine.

    Should we go ahead and roll out the ol' "Mission Accomplished" banner?
    Trump farted publicly in water again , i don't see how Palestinian elites could it (without eastern Jerusalem) sell to Palestinians and the muslim world . but I guess his buddy vova putler blessed Trump's 'deal of the century' and this is only important for the red clown

    Karl Marx : "The bloody mire of Mongolian slavery, not the rude glory of the Norman epoch, forms the cradle of Muscovy, and modern "Russia" is but a metamorphosis of Muscovy."

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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Do you not have "#BDS" in your signature?
    What does France think of you? Germany? Canada? Australia? The US?
    Every single major Western power recognizes what you people are and opposes you for it.
    Why should I take seriously someone who has something similar to "#KKK" in their signature and their views?
    I'm familiar with the values of the antisemites and their views, I don't find their positions relevant in discussion. Sorry.
    #KKK?

    LMAOOOOOO.

    I boycott everything Israel because I disagree with their illegal occupation and oppression of indigenous peoples in the west bank and other portions of Israel territory.

    Go on.

    Call me an anti-semite directly.

    DO IT.

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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    I should point out that a person's Jewish identity does not make one immune to the charges of antisemitism. A person can always be the willing tool of antisemites and those who want to harm Jews, even if they hold no antisemitic believes themselves. Chaim Rumkowski was certainly not an antisemite. But he was the next best thing.
    Also of note: being Jewish doesn't mean you have to support the actions of the Israeli government. And not supporting Israeli expansion doesn't make you antisemitic.

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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I'm saying that you hinting on Palestinians being currently displaced and being told to leave their homes to make room for settlements is deception pure and simple, there's no such thing going on, the settlements were formed on lands that weren't used by anyone and there certainly isn't any Palestinian who is being told to leave his house in the West Bank to make room for a Jewish family. Whoever sold you that story probably didn't work so hard to convince you judging by your views here. Horrible.
    Yep, they started by moving onto unoccupied land.

    Then they established “security zones” around that land and bulldozed Palestinians homes in those zones.

    Then they began doing things like cutting off access to water or dumping raw sewage downhill on Palestinian villages and farms.

    When that forced Palestinians away, they occupied that “unused land” and set up “security zones” around it, bulldozing Palestinians homes in those zones.

    Rinse and repeat.

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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Apocalypse's response to literally everything is to call the other person an anti semite. He even believes Bernie is an anti semite. He can't be reasoned with so it's best not to try. See also:




    Ah yes, Jewish Bernie wants to destroy Israel. You've gone off the hyperbole deep end and it prevents us from taking you seriously.
    I am fully aware of Apoc's nonsense. I just want him to say it directly to me, instead of saying #BDS=#KKK

    What a joke.

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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I'm saying that you hinting on Palestinians being currently displaced and being told to leave their homes to make room for settlements is deception pure and simple, there's no such thing going on, the settlements were formed on lands that weren't used by anyone and there certainly isn't any Palestinian who is being told to leave his house in the West Bank to make room for a Jewish family. Whoever sold you that story probably didn't work so hard to convince you judging by your views here. Horrible.
    And I suppose that there isn't a single word of truth in "House demolition in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict" - right?

    Oh, wait, you said "currently" didn't you.

    Of course you are correct because, right at this moment, the Israelis are not demolishing a single Palestinian building. What happened yesterday and what is going to happen tomorrow don't matter because "currently" the Israelis are not demolishing a single Palestinian building.
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    re: [W:89] President Trump unveils Middle East peace plan with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    I should point out that a person's Jewish identity does not make one immune to the charges of antisemitism. A person can always be the willing tool of antisemites and those who want to harm Jews, even if they hold no antisemitic believes themselves. Chaim Rumkowski was certainly not an antisemite. But he was the next best thing.
    If course, but the burden of proof in calling a Jew an anti semite is much higher. Israel and Jews are not synonyms and most Jews live outside of Israel. You do this to dismiss his actual position, which is that both countries need to coexist and recognize each other.

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