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Bolton book alleges Trump tied Ukraine aid freeze to Biden investigations: NYT

Logician Man said:
prove it.
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Its a little ironic for anyone on the left to demand proof of an accusation. Even this latest "we got him now" ascertain is based on anyomous sources yet that hast given any of you any pause to its accuracy. Instead you rush forward accepting their unproven allegation at face value. Yea, lets talk about proof.

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HumblePi said:
First hand knowledge, an eye witness, so yes, it is evidence.
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Which page and paragraph can i find this allegation? I would like to read it for myself.

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trouble13 said:
Its a little ironic for anyone on the left to demand proof of an accusation. Even this latest "we got him now" ascertain is based on anyomous sources yet that hast given any of you any pause to its accuracy. Instead you rush forward accepting their unproven allegation at face value. Yea, lets talk about proof.

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If you don't want your unproven positive claims challenged, I suggest you don't put them forth. Also, your red herring, in no manner, validated your positive claim.
 
Logician Man said:
If you don't want your unproven positive claims challenged, I suggest you don't put them forth. Also, your red herring, in no manner, validated your positive claim.
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The NYT has it, request a copy from them.
 
Barnacle said:
Heck, do you remember the whistleblower? He had heard something from someone who was told something by someone else and the media went into a frenzy ... only to find out later that half the stuff the media had spouted wasn't even true.
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Barnacle Bolton's atty has responded.

From FOX.....

In a statement obtained by Fox News, Bolton attorney Charles Cooper lamened that the review process had been "corrupted."
"On December 30, 2019, I submitted, on behalf of Ambassador Bolton, a book manuscript to the National Security Council’s Records Management Division for standard prepublication security review for classified information. As explained in my cover letter to Ellen J. Knight, Senior Director of the Records Management Division, we submitted the manuscript notwithstanding our firm belief that the manuscript contained no information that could reasonably be considered classified and on the assurance that the 'process of reviewing submitted materials is restricted to those career government officials and employees regularly charged with responsibility for such reviews' and that the 'contents of Ambassador Bolton’s manuscript will not be reviewed or otherwise disclosed to any persons not regularly involved in that process.'"
Cooper continued: "A copy of my December 30 letter is attached. It is clear, regrettably, from The New York Times article published today that the prepublication review process has been corrupted and that information has been disclosed by persons other than those properly involved in reviewing the manuscript."

Bolton resigned last September. His team declined to "speculate" to Fox News as to how a description of his manuscript might have leaked to the Times.
Additionally, Bolton's representatives made clear he was not denying the Times' claim concerning the Ukraine aid holdup and the possible investigation of the Bidens.
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Bolton slams '''corrupted''' National Security Council review process after book excerpt leaks | Fox News

Bolton's atty is not denying the NYT report. Evidently Bolton's claim is Trump was holding up the aid because he wanted Ukraine to investigate the Democrats corrupt activities in Ukraine during the Obama administration that included the Biden's leading up to the 2016 election. That is nothing new that was reported in the transcript.
 
Barnacle said:
I don't think they have a draft, I don't think they even have the actual wording from the book ... all they have is "someone told them something".
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Yeah, how convenient too. On the eve of the Republican's defense of the commander in chief. President Trump.
I'm so sick of this ****.
 
vesper said:
Barnacle Bolton's atty has responded.

From FOX.....



Bolton slams '''corrupted''' National Security Council review process after book excerpt leaks | Fox News

Bolton's atty is not denying the NYT report. Evidently Bolton's claim is Trump was holding up the aid because he wanted Ukraine to investigate the Democrats corrupt activities in Ukraine during the Obama administration that included the Biden's leading up to the 2016 election. That is nothing new that was reported in the transcript.
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Just as I suspected .... Cooper continued: "A copy of my December 30 letter is attached. It is clear, regrettably, from The New York Times article published today that the prepublication review process has been corrupted and that information has been disclosed by persons other than those properly involved in reviewing the manuscript."
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Could be a lot of ways including Bolton's publisher.
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Nope. Keep reading the thread. Bolton's attorney, Charles Cooper has come forward to correct the record. Cooper continued: "A copy of my December 30 letter is attached. It is clear, regrettably, from The New York Times article published today that the prepublication review process has been corrupted and that information has been disclosed by persons other than those properly involved in reviewing the manuscript."

Bolton lawyer slams 'corrupted' White House review process after book leak | TheHill
 
vesper said:
Barnacle Bolton's atty has responded.

From FOX.....



Bolton slams '''corrupted''' National Security Council review process after book excerpt leaks | Fox News

Bolton's atty is not denying the NYT report. Evidently Bolton's claim is Trump was holding up the aid because he wanted Ukraine to investigate the Democrats corrupt activities in Ukraine during the Obama administration that included the Biden's leading up to the 2016 election. That is nothing new that was reported in the transcript.
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It is pretty ****ty that the NSC leaked again.

On the highlighted part I would say that the lawyer can neither confirm nor deny anything that the NYT references in the book/claimes is written in the book. He cannot speak about the contents of the book.
 
itstony said:
This is why there needs to be witnesses. If Trump is so pure in this, what is he hiding?

Multiple sources familiar with Bolton's book told The New York Times that he writes that President Trump personally told him that $391 million in aid to Ukraine should be frozen until Ukrainian officials announced the investigations, including one into the Democratic National Committee.

Bolton book alleges Trump tied Ukraine aid freeze to Biden investigations: NYT | TheHill
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The number of books....and movies about the Trump administration will be around for a decade or two. Personally, I'm looking forward to the movies, maybe even a mini-series akin to House of Cards.
 
HumblePi said:
Try not to be so desperate to be significant when you're wrong. John Bolton needs to be called to testify, that's pretty clear, and when he does, his testimony will be entered in the record as evidence.
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His testimony, if direct personal knowledge, would be evidence. Doesn't make it a fact, but would be evidence. His book is a self serving document, not contemporaneous notes. It could be used to impeach his testimony, but not as a self serving document to confirm his own testimony.
 
ecofarm said:
:lol:


Naked adoration.
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Maybe you'd like it better if I had referred to the CIC as the racist in chief?

I leave these things to the misfits who have nothing better going for them in their lives.
 
trixare4kids said:
Maybe you'd like it better if I had referred to the CIC as the racist in chief?

I leave these things to the misfits who have nothing better going for them in their lives.
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No one is saying you can't fluff Trump. I'm just saying it's funny.
 
Barnacle said:
It is pretty ****ty that the NSC leaked again.

On the highlighted part I would say that the lawyer can neither confirm nor deny anything that the NYT references in the book/claimes is written in the book. He cannot speak about the contents of the book.
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It's little wonder as to why this particular president doesn't trust the advice and intel of so many he is surrounded by.
 
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I don't care what disgruntled ex employees who were fired or quit for refusal to be on board with the what the boss is doing and wants done - particularly if he writes a book that ONLY will sell if he attacks his ex boss.

Notice the teasers? He nor his lawyer have said anything but "To know what Bolton says you have to buy his book."

Yeah, like I'm gonna believe anything he says on that. If Bolton has something to say, say it. Or STFU.
 
trixare4kids said:
Yeah, how convenient too. On the eve of the Republican's defense of the commander in chief. President Trump.
I'm so sick of this ****.
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Are you postulating a conspiracy theory? Do you think George Soros is behind it all? Maybe Hillary Clinton from her lair...and a keg of wine?
 
ecofarm said:
No one is saying you can't fluff Trump. I'm just saying it's funny.
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I know what you wrote.
Your corny back pedal is amusingly predictable.
 
Rising Sun said:
Are you postulating a conspiracy theory? Do you think George Soros is behind it all? Maybe Hillary Clinton from her lair...and a keg of wine?
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It was leaked by the NSC, so you tell me....
 
trixare4kids said:
I know what you wrote.
Your corny back pedal is amusingly predictable.
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There's no back pedal. You engaged in naked adoration and Trump fluffing. And I laughed. End of story.
 
trixare4kids said:
It was leaked by the NSC, so you tell me....
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LOL. I strongly doubt it was leaked by the NSC, but thanks for the conspiracy theory.

My guess it's from inside the White House: The Resistance.

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EnigmaO01 said:
Do you have a link for that?
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Enigma I don't have a link directly. It transpired during the House Intel public trial which I watched. It was the day that Vindman was there to testify. Rep. Nunes, CA, Rep. Ratcliffe, TX and Jim Jordon, OH while cross examination of Vindman all three of them put Vindman on the spot with their prodding questions of who leaked the call that ultimately ended up with the whistleblower who claimed he received "firsthand knowledge" of what transpired on the call. Well it had to be one of those that were listening in on the call to be firsthand. When it finally got to the point where they asked Vindman if he was the one that leaked the call to the 'whistleblower', Shifty Schiff stopped the questioning and said Vindman did not have to answer that question. I don't know about you but if I didn't leak the call, I would have been ready and willing to answer that question. Vindman under oath did not.
 
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