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"Take her out!"

Conservative said:
Why is this even an issue? The Democrats have had three years investigating Trump so why now is this even an issue for you? why do you care since the left didn't care that Clinton lied under oath committing perjury? You now want witnesses after three years of investigation and the best the Democrats can do is Obstruction of Congress and Abuse of Power?? you want to believe those charges, why? I couldn't care less about Ukraine, why do you?
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Spooked your octopus, did I?

We didn't have all the information we have today three weeks ago, nevermind three years.

If Clinton's impeachment is relevant, then so is the new testimony they allowed in his Senate trial.

If you don't think the charges have any merit, then the more evidence the better, right?

Is the new defense "**** the Ukraine!" ?

I hadn't heard. I thought Trump was super concerned about helping them with their corruption problem.
 
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vesper said:
Hey Vern, read the transcript of the phone calls between the two leaders Vern. Zelensky said as much.

 Vern...Vern can you hear me now?
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vesper, I didn't ask you to repeat your narrative. I asked you to back it up. font size is simply not a factor in veracity. Again, please back up the "answers" you posted as if they were facts.
 
Conservative said:
Why didn't the Democrats who had three years of non stop investigation and after claiming that their was immediate need to remove Trump come up with such flimsy articles of Impeachment? The American people don't give a damn about Ukraine and if you did why don't you ask "your" President Obama why he denied military aid to Ukraine and if you want quid pro quo how about Obama's actions with Russia on the European missile defense

From the trial today!!

There is this



Then there is this!! You aren't paying any attention are you? You don't care about the facts, do you?
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how long did you fools investigate Hillary Clinton? And the charges? lock her up my arse. You never had anything...you have a pentent for fake investigations and conpsiracy theories though.
 
Mycroft said:
Trump could have moved her out for any reason...hell, he could have done it because he doesn't like her glasses. That is NOT an abuse of power.

Seriously...why do you keep making **** up?
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He seemed to have wanted it done secretly, and by a man he says he doesn't know. That kind if gets the old anti-corruption antenna up.
 
Vern said:
vesper, I didn't ask you to repeat your narrative. I asked you to back it up. font size is simply not a factor in veracity. Again, please back up the "answers" you posted as if they were facts.
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And how many times do I have to repeat myself with you VERN? The answer to your request is in the transcripts of the phone calls between Zelensky and Trump. Cripe sake find the transcripts online and read them.
 
WillyPete said:
Spooked your octopus, did I?

We didn't have all the information we have today three weeks ago, nevermind three years.

If Clinton's impeachment is relevant, then so is the new testimony they allowed in his Senate trial.

If you don't think the charges have any merit, then the more evidence the better, right?

Is the new defense "**** the Ukraine!" ?

I hadn't heard. I thought Trump was super concerned about helping them with their corruption problem.
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he knows he is guilty, he doesn't care if he abused his power or corrupted the system..
 
Conservative said:
Why didn't the Democrats who had three years of non stop investigation and after claiming that their was immediate need to remove Trump come up with such flimsy articles of Impeachment? The American people don't give a damn about Ukraine and if you did why don't you ask "your" President Obama why he denied military aid to Ukraine and if you want quid pro quo how about Obama's actions with Russia on the European missile defense

From the trial today!!

There is this



Then there is this!! You aren't paying any attention are you? You don't care about the facts, do you?
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Hopefully, Americans give a damn about the legitimacy of elections (Republicans excluded, of course.)
 
j brown's body said:
He seemed to have wanted it done secretly, and by a man he says he doesn't know. That kind if gets the old anti-corruption antenna up.
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There was nothing secret about removing Yovanovitch and moving her to a cushy university job...and still on the government payroll. Hell, it was in the news.

Anyway, CT lovers don't need something like that to get their antenna up. It comes naturally to the...no matter what Trump does.
 
ClaraD said:
he knows he is guilty, he doesn't care if he abused his power or corrupted the system..
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He's never been held accountable before. He doesn't know or care about the difference between right and wrong.
 
WillyPete said:
Spooked your octopus, did I?

We didn't have all the information we have today three weeks ago, nevermind three years.

If Clinton's impeachment is relevant, then so is the new testimony they allowed in his Senate trial.

If you don't think the charges have any merit, then the more evidence the better, right?

Is the new defense "**** the Ukraine!" ?

I hadn't heard. I thought Trump was super concerned about helping them with their corruption problem.
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Clinton's impeachment was a violation of law, what law did Trump violate?? Article of impeachment, abuse of power? is that the House's right to determine or a court? Obstruction of Congress?? Is the House Congress or one part of Congress? What obstruction and is that impeachable for an equal branch to deny access? Why isn't an issue for the courts to decide?

All this urgency to Impeach the President, did you even read post 175?
 
ClaraD said:
how long did you fools investigate Hillary Clinton? And the charges? lock her up my arse. You never had anything...you have a pentent for fake investigations and conpsiracy theories though.
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Fools? An ambassador Died, thank you for your compassion? You want to explain the Russian Uranium Deal and the Clinton Foundation? You keep showing that you are nothing more than a partisan thus having no credibility
 
ClaraD said:
he knows he is guilty, he doesn't care if he abused his power or corrupted the system..
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Guilty of what? In order to be guilty there has to be a crime, you have proven none nor have the witnesses that you want to ignore. Post the video of the testimony?
 
j brown's body said:
Hopefully, Americans give a damn about the legitimacy of elections (Republicans excluded, of course.)
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LOL, so liberal arrogance on full display!! Russia didn't change your vote or mine but you are right and I am wrong? The American people are benefiting from Trump, you probably not so much as you appear to be dependent on a gov't who controls most of the GDP which is what socialist countries have
 
Mycroft said:
There was nothing secret about removing Yovanovitch and moving her to a cushy university job...and still on the government payroll. Hell, it was in the news.

Anyway, CT lovers don't need something like that to get their antenna up. It comes naturally to the...no matter what Trump does.
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You're being absurd. No one knew he wanted her out a year ago, and by the hand of someone he claims he doesn't know. And then she was abruptly recalled. No one knew until it hapoened. Sleazy business.
 
j brown's body said:
He's never been held accountable before. He doesn't know or care about the difference between right and wrong.
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A true socialist seeking attention who cannot even believe half of what you post. Right or wrong with a liberal lens doesn't resonate with anyone but you radicals
 
Conservative said:
LOL, so liberal arrogance on full display!! Russia didn't change your vote or mine but you are right and I am wrong? The American people are benefiting from Trump, you probably not so much as you appear to be dependent on a gov't who controls most of the GDP which is what socialist countries have
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So Trump's corrupting elections is okay because its ineffective and he should be president anyway because he's doing such a good job. And wanting election legitimacy is arrogant.

Your authoritarianism is freshingly down-to-earth.
 
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Conservative said:
A true socialist seeking attention who cannot even believe half of what you post. Right or wrong with a liberal lens doesn't resonate with anyone but you radicals
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You realize, of course, that most people reject Trump.
 
Conservative said:
Clinton's impeachment was a violation of law, what law did Trump violate??
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He illegally withheld aid to the Ukraine. How that ties into the articles I'll leave for the lawyers. My understanding is there is no such requirement for impeachment, in any case. I hope you can see how this is another way to resist new information becoming public. It's counter-intuitive, since you seem to believe the truth of events supports Trump. Perhaps you can explain that discrepancy.

Article of impeachment, abuse of power? is that the House's right to determine or a court? Obstruction of Congress?? Is the House Congress or one part of Congress? What obstruction and is that impeachable for an equal branch to deny access? Why isn't an issue for the courts to decide?
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How about we just give both sides as much information as they feel would help them decide, and see how it shakes out? Why is it preferable to avoid as much information as possible, do you think? As I said above, it's counter-intuitive, if the truth supports Trump.

All this urgency to Impeach the President, did you even read post 175?
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Wherein you moan about Obama? What was I to learn about Trump's impeachment from that, except that you don't want to talk about it?
 
j brown's body said:
You're being absurd. No one knew he wanted her out a year ago, and by the hand of someone he claims he doesn't know. And then she was abruptly recalled. No one knew until it hapoened. Sleazy business.
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You didn't know till it happened. That doesn't mean no on knew.

And it wasn't done by "the hand of someone he claims he doesn't know". Parnas didn't fire her.

Seriously...stop making **** up.
 
Conservative said:
Fools? An ambassador Died, thank you for your compassion? You want to explain the Russian Uranium Deal and the Clinton Foundation? You keep showing that you are nothing more than a partisan thus having no credibility
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Why don't you explain it? I've lost my Fox News decoder ring.
 
Mycroft said:
You didn't know till it happened. That doesn't mean no on knew.

And it wasn't done by "the hand of someone he claims he doesn't know". Parnas didn't fire her.

Seriously...stop making **** up.
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So who knew? And Trump said to Parnas, who he claims he doesn't know, to get rid of her.
 
j brown's body said:
So Trump's corrupting elections is okay because its ineffective and he should be president anyway because he's doing such a good job. And wanting election legitimacy is arrogant.

Your authoritarianism is freshingly down-to-earth.
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Trump didn't corrupt the election, the American people spoke, Trump is President, he lost California by 4 million votes and if you believe those 4 million were all legal voters you are indeed a typical leftwing zealot out of touch with reality
 
j brown's body said:
You realize, of course, that most people reject Trump.
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55% approve of the economic policies implemented and that is what matters as it puts food on the table, a roof over their head and clothes on their backs. Your ideology creates dependence that benefits the elite which apparently you are.
 
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So Trump's corrupting elections is okay because its ineffective and he should be president anyway because he's doing such a good job. And wanting election legitimacy is arrogant.

Your authoritarianism is freshingly down-to-earth.
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How did the Russians get all those Americans to vote for Donald Trump? With these skills they could easily get control over the entire world rather than being behind so much of it.
 
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WillyPete;1071250899]He illegally withheld aid to the Ukraine. How that ties into the articles I'll leave for the lawyers. My understanding is there is no such requirement for impeachment, in any case. I hope you can see how this is another way to resist new information becoming public. It's counter-intuitive, since you seem to believe the truth of events supports Trump. Perhaps you can explain that discrepancy.
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Why do you care? No he didn't Ukraine got the military aid they wanted something they never got from Obama. the requirements the Democrats have now set for impeachment is going to come back and bite them in the ass



How about we just give both sides as much information as they feel would help them decide, and see how it shakes out? Why is it preferable to avoid as much information as possible, do you think? As I said above, it's counter-intuitive, if the truth supports Trump
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Until you have an impeachable offense there is no need to provide any information. Your party has been investigating Trump for 3 years now and the best they can do is obstruction of Congress and abuse of power?? LOL, Don't want partisan politicians even trying to charge abuse of power and obstruction of justice, those are up to the courts



Wherein you moan about Obama? What was I to learn about Trump's impeachment from that, except that you don't want to talk about it?
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Obama was unqualifed for the office, Trump is transforming the country back to where it belongs, small central gov't, power at the states, and personal responsibility which tax cuts generate. what I have learned about liberalism and radicals is that their ideology is a failure and they throw temper tantrums when challenged
 
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