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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmay View Post
    They are, they are absolutely letting the defendant's laywers submit evidence and witness testimony from the House investigation......what's the problem with that?
    because there is evidence that was blocked by the WH to the House investigation and impeachment, there is more to see here...we need to see more from Parnas, Bolton and Mulvany....he hasn't claimed executive priviledge.

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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    The evidence is supposed to be supplied by impeachment managers. Nadler says there "plenty of evidence".
    And there is and the President's lawyers are doing little to nothing in refuting it. But that doesn't mean that the American people don't want hear from the people that had firsthand role in it. And really what better way would there be to put end to it once and for all than to bring these witnesses forward so they can unequivocally state that nothing of the sort happened. Unless of course there is a concern that they won't be able to do so if placed under oath.

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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    Kind of reminds me when the courts ordered Hillary to keep all emails related to government business and somehow over 30,000 were deleted. Talk about a cover up.
    I donít recall a court making such an order.
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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Not sure, but I think the senators can call for witnesses during the question period. I suspect that's when Bolton will be called...and if he is, McConnell has threatened to hold his testimony behind closed doors.

    The Dems are also mulling whether or not to let Hunter Biden testify in exchange for letting Bolton testify. But don't quote me on any of this.
    There is no way if I'm the Democrats that I would allow such an exchange. Don't allow the Senate to do the dirty work Ukraine tried so desperately hard to avoid having to do in order get their aid.

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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraD View Post
    because there is evidence that was blocked by the WH to the House investigation and impeachment, there is more to see here...we need to see more from Parnas, Bolton and Mulvany....he hasn't claimed executive priviledge.
    Why do we need more, did the House Democrats jump the gun, not prove their case? Why?

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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    And there is and the President's lawyers are doing little to nothing in refuting it. But that doesn't mean that the American people don't want hear from the people that had firsthand role in it. And really what better way would there be to put end to it once and for all than to bring these witnesses forward so they can unequivocally state that nothing of the sort happened. Unless of course there is a concern that they won't be able to do so if placed under oath.
    Would it really matter? Seriously, all 17 of the witnesses that testified, said quid pro quo didn't happen, they didn't have any evidence of that, or bribery, and you guys still moved forward....

    That's why it's innocent until proven guilty.....how in the hell does Trump provide a document of something that wasn't done?

    Think about that, everyone is saying, well just let people testify if there is nothing to hide, when you don't ****ing believe the testimony that you ALREADY HAVE.

    But there's more, you think there will be documents proving Trump's innocence, how the **** does that even work? Look here....there's ZERO emails about this...therefore he must be innocent...right?

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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmay View Post
    OMG, you mean a Politician lied to you?

    You should do the research on it, you will see that the Senate is allowing House Dems to present the evidence an witness testimony from the House investigation....but I guess that's not what they want you to believe is it?
    You seem to be missing the point. The issue is over witnesses that are blocked and documents withheld by Trump and Co. In both houses.

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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    We have all of the evidence and witness testimony that the House viewed as sufficient for impeachment. Are you saying that Trump was impeached unfairly?
    We are saying that new evidence has been revealed since the vote to impeach and there are requested witnesses that have refuse to testify. Are you saying that new evidence is a no no in this special case? By special case I mean that Republicans have already declared him innocent with no defense by Trump or his attorneys.
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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Supposedly, witnesses can be called at the end of the trial after the 16 hours of questions by the senators. Which is totally backwards from a normal trial.
    Schiff clarified this last night to note that at that time the senate can debate whether to allow witnesses to give testimony before the senate body
    53/47 would not be a bad prediction to anticipate the (un)likelihood of witness testimony
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    Re: Republicans Block Subpoenas for New Evidence as Impeachment Trial Begins

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickyjo View Post
    You seem to be missing the point. The issue is over witnesses that are blocked and documents withheld by Trump and Co. In both houses.
    No, I'm not missing the point, the point is, the House chose not to pursue the remedy they had available to them.....

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