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Climate refugees cannot be sent back home, United Nations rules in landmark decision

bomberfox said:
So the jist of the thread is waaah i dont wanna change! Its too haaard! And if x refugee doesnt satisfy my biased uber “logical” test, they are lying. Sit out the cop dramas and let the people who actually know what they are doing do the job mmkay?
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No, the OP is the claim that climate refugees cannot be sent back if they arrive in other countries.

The opposition, at least mine, is to challenge the idea that there are any such climate refugees or ever will be.
 
bomberfox said:
consensus is established through meta analysis. Its why we have peer review. Yeah people do say the consensus is e=mc^2 because it has passed rigorous peer review. Your idiocy claiming anyone said aliens caused global warming is hysterical
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That is not how science works.

We know e=mc^2 is correct because it works.

Peer review is just a process that is supposed to filter out stuff that is blatantly wrong or copied. It is however a broken system that needs updating a lot.
 
Tim the plumber said:
That is not how science works.

We know e=mc^2 is correct because it works.

Peer review is just a process that is supposed to filter out stuff that is blatantly wrong or copied. It is however a broken system that needs updating a lot.
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You're one of those scientists who think ether is real. :lamo
 
AProudLefty said:
You're one of those scientists who think ether is real. :lamo
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And you would be one of those who thinks knowing a word makes you clever. Tell me what is the difference between the idea of ether and that of space-time?
 
Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
You're one of those scientists who think ether is real.
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AProudLefty said:
Why are you babbling again?
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Never had to remind somebody of what they had said just 4 minutes before befroe. You get the prize for the most memory vacant person ever.

Oh, I get it you have no clue as to what space-time is. OK.
 
Tim the plumber said:
Never had to remind somebody of what they had said just 4 minutes before befroe. You get the prize for the most memory vacant person ever.

Oh, I get it you have no clue as to what space-time is. OK.
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So you have no idea what you are babbling about? Well that's what I thought. I pity you.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
There are quite a few important and oft-cited studies I can refer you to, but I think this would be quicker if you briefly highlight the things that you have a problem with as it pertains to the current scientific consensus regarding human-caused global warming.

There are some things science cannot contend with and we have to use placeholders and educated guesses.

For example, if you're looking for some sort of study that exactly replicates Earth-like conditions in some sort of experiment where you pump out a bunch of human-generated greenhouse gases on one Earth, and you refrain from pumping out a bunch of human-generated greenhouse gases on duplicate of a second earth, you're not going to find one because we don't have a second Earth.

This is why I want to try and figure out what your framework is and what base of knowledge you're working with before I begin a discussion with you.

What level of certainty do you require for something to be a "fact' in your mind? To be more specific, when does a fact, or in this case, a set of ideas, have to be certain enough for you to act upon or refrain from acting upon it? I say this because I suspect most people who profess to be conservative tend to hold the view that we should wait and a test a new, radical alteration to a thing before implementing such an alteration.

Another problem we have to deal with is that there are so many disciplines that are involved in climate science, most of the studies are confined to specific niches, specific points of interest.

Why don't we proceed with the easiest and most consequential topic...carbon dioxide's effect on the atmosphere, and the likelihood that emissions of carbon dioxide caused by humans are likely warming the Earth?
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There is no need for this silly word salad of yours. Just point out a single peer reviewed study that proves beyond a doubt that man is causing AGW and that it poses a big threat to our existence. Since you keep claiming its been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, then there shouldnt be any problem with you giving us the link to the said study, right?

ataraxia said:
Don’t look down your nose on them with too much contempt. You may be the one seeking the refuge soon enough.

As climate change bites in America’s midwest, farmers are desperate to ring the alarm | Environment | The Guardian
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LOL more silly predictions. Climate scientists have never been right, so why should I believe this BS?
 
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PoS said:
Climate refugees cannot be sent back home, United Nations rules - CNN



Here we go- expect millions of people to proclaim that their islands are sinking (even thought theyre not) all in the name of climate change, so that they can go to other countries and get free money, homes, and healthcare. The scam is on.
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A trivialization of reality. One can also consider the plight of the people of Zimbabwe. Once a productive land, drought has brought many to near starvation.
 
PoS said:
There is no need for this silly word salad of yours. Just point out a single peer reviewed study that proves beyond a doubt that man is causing AGW and that it poses a big threat to our existence. Since you keep claiming its been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, then there shouldnt be any problem with you giving us the link to the said study, right?



LOL more silly predictions. Climate scientists have never been right, so why should I believe this BS?
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Proves beyond a doubt.



That is the most hilarious standard I have ever heard.



You can not prove the earth is round to that standard. Lol
 
Torus34 said:
A trivialization of reality. One can also consider the plight of the people of Zimbabwe. Once a productive land, drought has brought many to near starvation.
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Do you think that Zimbabwe's problems are due to the climate there, which has had such droughts often, or the massive mis-management of the place by the corrupt government?

What sorty of proportion would you ascribe to each reason?

Personally I'll go with 97% corruption etc. and 3% bad year.
 
vegas giants said:
Proves beyond a doubt.



That is the most hilarious standard I have ever heard.



You can not prove the earth is round to that standard. Lol
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Can;

Victoria (ship) - Wikipedia

Victoria (or Nao Victoria) was a carrack and the first ship to successfully circumnavigate the world. Victoria was part of a Spanish expedition commanded by the Portuguese explorer Ferdinand Magellan, and after his death during the voyage, by Juan Sebastián Elcano. The expedition began on 10 August 1519 with five ships. However, Victoria was the only ship to complete the voyage, returning on 6 September 1522.[2] Magellan was killed in the Philippines.
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The log of this ship was read by people with extensive experience around such voyages, peers if you will, and the whole world accepted that it had done so.

Proved beyond reasonable doubt that the world is a sphere.
 
Torus34 said:
A trivialization of reality. One can also consider the plight of the people of Zimbabwe. Once a productive land, drought has brought many to near starvation.
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Tim the plumber said:

Do you think that Zimbabwe's problems are due to the climate there, which has had such droughts often, or the massive mis-management of the place by the corrupt government?

What sorty of proportion would you ascribe to each reason?

Personally I'll go with 97% corruption etc. and 3% bad year.
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The devastation in Zimbabwe is a product of decades of self-defeating government policies. Farmers were driven out and farms were destroyed.
 
Tim the plumber said:

Can;

Victoria (ship) - Wikipedia



The log of this ship was read by people with extensive experience around such voyages, peers if you will, and the whole world accepted that it had done so.

Proved beyond reasonable doubt that the world is a sphere.
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The log was faked and the witnesses bribed. My god that was way too easy. Lol
 
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[h=1]Kiribati Man is Back: UN Rules Climate Refugees Cannot Be Rejected[/h][FONT=&quot]Guest essay by Eric Worrall This judgement has implications for US border control, as unskilled illegal immigrants who attempt to enter the USA are starting to claim they are really climate refugees. Climate refugees can’t be returned home, says landmark UN human rights ruling Experts say judgment is ‘tipping point’ that opens the door to…
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vegas giants said:
The log was faked and the witnesses bribed. My god that was way too easy. Lol
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You posted a challenge. It had very specific criteria. I passed those criteria. You then made up different things to support your position. That would be saying a falsehood and knowingly doing so. We, honest people, have a word for that.
 
Tim the plumber said:
You posted a challenge. It had very specific criteria. I passed those criteria. You then made up different things to support your position. That would be saying a falsehood and knowingly doing so. We, honest people, have a word for that.
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You did not meet the standard. The stars is thete can be no doubt. Not reasonable doubt......no doubt. Zero.


You failed
 
vegas giants said:
You did not meet the standard. The stars is thete can be no doubt. Not reasonable doubt......no doubt. Zero.


You failed
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Originally Posted by PoS View Post
There is no need for this silly word salad of yours. Just point out a single peer reviewed study that proves beyond a doubt that man is causing AGW and that it poses a big threat to our existence. Since you keep claiming its been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, then there shouldnt be any problem with you giving us the link to the said study, right?



LOL more silly predictions. Climate scientists have never been right, so why should I believe this BS?
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Proves beyond a doubt.



That is the most hilarious standard I have ever heard.



You can not prove the earth is round to that standard. Lol
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Clearly PoS had clarified the doubt to a reasonable level. Not even a scientific level but a legal level of beyond reasonable doubt.

That you are incapable of holding anything so complex, of imagining nubers between 0 and 1, does not stop your claim being false.
 
Tim the plumber said:

Clearly PoS had clarified the doubt to a reasonable level. Not even a scientific level but a legal level of beyond reasonable doubt.

That you are incapable of holding anything so complex, of imagining nubers between 0 and 1, does not stop your claim being false.
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Science does not prove things.


When will you guys learn?
 
Tim the plumber said:
Never had to remind somebody of what they had said just 4 minutes before befroe. You get the prize for the most memory vacant person ever.

Oh, I get it you have no clue as to what space-time is. OK.
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You're the one who claimed that I said I a physicist. Which post did I say that?
 
Tim the plumber said:
And you would be one of those who thinks knowing a word makes you clever. Tell me what is the difference between the idea of ether and that of space-time?
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PoS said:
Climate refugees cannot be sent back home, United Nations rules - CNN



Here we go- expect millions of people to proclaim that their islands are sinking (even thought theyre not) all in the name of climate change, so that they can go to other countries and get free money, homes, and healthcare. The scam is on.
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Except that the Unitied Nations has no power or ability to enforce such a decision with any nation that disagrees and doesn't want to follow the UN. It's not governing the world. The EU found this out with the UK when they decided to pull out because the EU was telling them what to do on matters regarding their own borders.
 
Glitch said:
It isn't as if the UN has any authority. They can pontificate all they like, it doesn't change anything.
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And I think the author of the article made way more out of it than what was there.

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Youthful enthusiasm at the cost of journalistic standards.
 
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