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More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

Cooking is hard. Better learn to reheat pizza and feed it to kids.



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Hatuey said:
Is that your argument for supporting pizza in schools? That cafeterias are not restaurants? Almost like you've never been to a restaurant that serves pizzas.

You're going to hurt yourself if you keep going down this road.

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I don’t have a problem with schools serving (probably) frozen pizza. If you want your kids to have quinoa then pack their lunch.
 
Napoleon said:
I don’t have a problem with schools serving (probably) frozen pizza. If you want your kids to have quinoa then pack their lunch.
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The same argument could be made for those who don't want schools to serve fatty foods.

Why don't you pack them pizza? Wait, we get it, cause cafeterias serve pizza, but restaurants don't.

That it? Lol. By the way, you're the ONLY person here talking about quinoa. There are other grains you know. Rice for one.

Boink, boink.

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Hatuey said:
The same argument could be made for those who don't want schools to serve fatty foods.

Why don't you pack them pizza? Wait, we get it, cause cafeterias serve pizza, but restaurants don't.

That it? Lol. By the way, you're the ONLY person here talking about quinoa. There are other grains you know. Rice for one.

Boink, boink.

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You don’t get it. School cafeterias are neither qualified nor funded to produce the kind of meals Michelle Obama had in mind. So they ended up serving slop that drove people to pack instead. It was a failed concept. And no, I still don’t have a problem with pizza because eating healthy doesn’t mean you have to suck all the joy out of life.
 
Napoleon said:
You don’t get it. School cafeterias are neither qualified
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We explained this to you, that's what this sought to change - give schools the added funds to serve people nutritional means.
Now go complain about having to eat imaginary quinoa somewhere else.

It's embarrasing.

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Hatuey said:
We explained this to you, that's what this sought to change - give schools the added funds to serve people nutritional means.
Now go complain about having to eat imaginary quinoa somewhere else.

It's embarrasing.

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Quinoa was/is a common feature of the disgusting lunches cobbled together under this program. You have your answer - it’s out. If you want your kid to be the paragon of healthy eating then feed them yourself.
 
Napoleon said:
You don’t get it. School cafeterias are neither qualified nor funded to produce the kind of meals Michelle Obama had in mind. So they ended up serving slop that drove people to pack instead. It was a failed concept. And no, I still don’t have a problem with pizza because eating healthy doesn’t mean you have to suck all the joy out of life.
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school cafeterias can easily produce and serve healthier foods than they do, and kids will eat it if that is what is there.

Seen it happen personally...
 
Napoleon said:
Quinoa was/is a common feature of the disgusting lunches cobbled together under this program. You have your answer - it’s out. If you want your kid to be the paragon of healthy eating then feed them yourself.
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You're embarrasing yourself. The program did not provide specifics on menus that schools need to have. If schools chose to give the least costly alternatives because that's what their budgets demanded, they sabotaged themselves, the program didn't fail.

Do you know how the program worked? Here we go with this guy associating a specific food with nutrition and health.




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Bodhisattva said:
school cafeterias can easily produce and serve healthier foods than they do, and kids will eat it if that is what is there.

Seen it happen personally...
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Did they hire a Michelin chef to make that healthier alternative?

Genuinely curious.

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Hatuey said:
Did they hire a Michelin chef to make that healthier alternative?

Genuinely curious.

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Not here... but it was an ex-chef now working as a food and health teacher that came up with it... but really, you or I could have as well. Turned it into a class for students to get credits in. The students in that class program, about 6, go out and buy the food, or pick what we grow here, and prepare the meals/options. Simple stuff. Kids even showed up to the healthy free breakfast club that we got a sponsor to help with. Kids show up and get a free healthy breakfast, teachers can to.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Not here... but it was an ex-chef now working as a food and health teacher that came up with it... but really, you or I could have as well. Turned it into a class for students to get credits in. The students in that class program, about 6, go out and buy the food, or pick what we grow here, and prepare the meals/options. Simple stuff. Kids even showed up to the healthy free breakfast club that we got a sponsor to help with. Kids show up and get a free healthy breakfast, teachers can to.
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Well, I've got one word.
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Kids learning to cook, learning to shop for their food, learning to feed their communities.



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ludin said:
a big mac has 1/4 of the daily calories of a 2k diet. Yes A big mac contains all of the protean, carbs etc that someone would need. So your argument is a senseless pursuit and it tastes a hell of a lot better than the slop they were serving on those obama lunch trays.
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It also only has 3g of fiber, which is why you get hungry like an hour after eating one.
 
Hatuey said:
Well, I've got one word.
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Kids learning to cook, learning to shop for their food, learning to feed their communities.



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I teach a fairly cool curriculum... to be honest. I have an enquiry based student-led model. One of my classes is about teaching kids how to survive in space. I will teach them the basics of research since they are only 8th and the 9th graders... then we we'll go on to NASA and SpaceX type of research so that they can figure out individually or in groups how to recycle water in space or how to maintain muscle mass while living in zero gravity... for instance. There is also a numeracy aspect to this class which involves mathematics. Another class I have is where the students start interacting with the community and my take on that will be helping the environment... it could be beach clean ups... it could be how to help beached whales... it could be how to help clean up plastic from the oceans. Kind of cool stuff actually. Anyway that is a short description...
 
Bodhisattva said:
I teach a fairly cool curriculum... to be honest. I have an enquiry based student-led model. One of my classes is about teaching kids how to survive in space. I will teach them the basics of research since they are only 8th and the 9th graders... then we we'll go on to NASA and SpaceX type of research so that they can figure out individually or in groups how to recycle water in space or how to maintain muscle mass while living in zero gravity... for instance. There is also a numeracy aspect to this class which involves mathematics. Another class I have is where the students start interacting with the community and my take on that will be helping the environment... it could be beach clean ups... it could be how to help beached whales... it could be how to help clean up plastic from the oceans. Kind of cool stuff actually. Anyway that is a short description...
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Fine, fine, you get a temporary cease fire cause I respect most teachers. Use a camera to teach math from time to time.

Don't mess it up.

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Most of those Obama vegetables end up in the trash.
 
I never had school lunch when I was a kid. Lived under the poverty line. Pretty sure it was ramen noodles or Reser’s burrito’s every day. Pizza would have been cool. Pizza isn’t why kids are fat. Just like school funding and teachers salaries is not why Billy can’t read.
 
Geoist said:
You have no problem with your taxdollars contributing to obesity?
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I don’t have a problem with obesity.

It’s largely a personal choice, I have no desire to socially engineer other people’s behavior
 
ludin said:
there is nothing wrong with the nutrition in a big mac.

in fact dollar for dollar it is better nutrition than most people can afford. that isn't the issue.

the issue is sitting on your ass not doing anything.
kids playing video games more than they sleep.
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A few years back, some guy decided to eat nothing but McDonald's food for a month or two.

It messed him up. Sure, if he'd excercise, he wouldn't have gotten so ill, in fact, another guy proved that point, but that's not the point.

The point is, is the food healthy? The only way to tell if it is healthy or not is to NOT excercize and try out a type of food and see what happens.

Super Size Me - Wikipedia


I haven't excercized in years, and, in fact, I'm rather sedentary. I'm only 20 lbs overweight, haven't been sick in 40 years.

That is because I have, for breakfast, each and every day of my life for the last 40 years, had a big bowl of lightly steamed brocolli and carrots.

I also eat several cookies and 3 or 4 cups of coffee, every day. I'm hopelessly addicted to those two times, but the brocolli really has saved my life.

If I had replaced that brocolli with a big mac, fries and a coca cola, and ate nothing but McDonald's crap ( except the salads, they are good )
I probably wouldn't be alive. I'm 68.

I will agree with this point: kids will eat crap, and that's probably unavoidable, so making kids excercize, get a lot of physical activity is paramount.

This why I'm so glad there was no such thing as video games when I was a kid. We'd go outside and climb trees, go hiking, play football, basketball, and baseball, or go swimming in the apartment building's pool. We were outdoors ALL the time, when I was a kid (when not in class, of course).
 
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americanwoman said:
I'm positive you went to every single elementary/middle/high school in the country and did extensive research on that.
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At my old high school, the green beans were good. I liked getting those. I liked eating peaches there, too, as they were pretty damn good. So were the apples and oranges. Honestly, it was like the pizza and such things that tasted like garbage most of the time, since it felt like I was eating glorified cardboard some days. I wasn't much of a healthy eater, though. Coupled with the fact that I used to starve myself in high school when I was depressed, and I lost a lot of weight.
 
americanwoman said:
With a Big Mac on the side for some nutrition. [emoji38]
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I always thought Whataburger was the healthy alternative to Jack In the Box. If I want to go really nutritional, and get a little buzzed, a Sonic's vanilla milkshake will do.

I weigh 275 and measure 5'3. Getting all the nutrients I could possibly need.



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americanwoman said:
I'm positive you went to every single elementary/middle/high school in the country and did extensive research on that.
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Google is your friend;

Despite making it onto lunch trays, fewer fruits and vegetables are actually eaten now than before USDA guidelines were put into place in 2012......"It was heartbreaking to see so many students toss fruits like apples into the trash right after exiting the lunch line." ........Despite the 13.3 percent increase in the number of students with a fruit or vegetable on their tray, researchers saw an 11.8 percent decrease in the amount of either being eaten and a 56 percent increase in waste.
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Children throwing away fruit, vegetables from school lunches - UPI.com
 
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