- Joined
- Feb 24, 2013
- Messages
- 34,908
- Reaction score
- 19,383
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Conservative
One needn't be a parent to see obesity in America. One does need be a fat slob to ignore it or pretend it's okay.
Hah! How'd I know?
One needn't be a parent to see obesity in America. One does need be a fat slob to ignore it or pretend it's okay.
Cafeteria work is a good gig for moms with school age children since you are working when they are at school. Before Sam Walton adopted a flexible scheduling model at Walmart it was one of the few jobs that otherwise stay at home moms could get and not have to turn around and spend their money on daycare or sitters or leave kids as latchkey children. In our school system, they enjoy the same sort of mandatory pay raises based on years of service as many government employees. You may start off as a MW dishwasher only getting 12-15 hours a week, but over time, you can put on some serious hourly rates for that level labor. Anyway, there is usually a waiting list for women wanting the job.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/01/17/usda-proposes-changing-school-menus-allow-more-fries-pizza-fewer-vegetables-fruits-reversing-michelle-obama-effort/
Funny thing is, that was my issue when I ran for class president in the 8th grade.
Lipps never wrote all of the above. That was the opinion of Colin Schwartz, deputy director of legislative affairs for Center for Science in the Public Interest who surmised that Lipp's new ruling “would create a huge loophole in school nutrition guidelines, paving the way for children to choose pizza, burgers, french fries and other foods high in calories, saturated fat or sodium in place of balanced school meals every day.”
There's no proof that Schwartz's opinions will come to fruition.
Read more about his fear-mongering here:
USDA proposes changing school menus to allow more fries and fewer vegetables, reversing a Michelle Obama effort
there is nothing wrong with the nutrition in a big mac.
in fact dollar for dollar it is better nutrition than most people can afford. that isn't the issue.
the issue is sitting on your ass not doing anything.
kids playing video games more than they sleep.
Yes, but they didn’t make them tasty or even look appetizing. Why do you suppose they didn’t put in the extra effort to accomplish making a tasty dish or to look appetizing?
Roseann
But that's NOT what they have to work with. I'm unsure what is hard to grasp here. The cooks at these schools are untrained minimum wage employees, whose cooking skills are glop and frozen stuff. Chefs are not. This isn't rocket science.Even a good chef would have difficulty making a good tasty meal if all they had to work with is glop you throw in an oven and frozen stuff you put in a microwave.
Yes, I AM blaming the cooks because most schools do not bother to hire anyone who actuall knows how to cook beyond frozen things and bizarre concoctions. Let alone pay enough for people who actually know what they are doing.You seem to be blaming the cooks as being the problem calling them crappy wannabes and not placing any blame on the supplies they must use and then expecting those cooks to turn them into tasty healthy meals.
Roseann
And I’m sure those French chef’s get the type of supplies that make it possible to create gorgeous food and tasty dishes.
Ignoring the type of supplies that those U.S. public schools are providing will never solve the problem and blaming the cooks is unfair.
Roseann
I have no idea what this is, and it doesn't seem to care if the reader can decipher it.
Just name 1 so-called food desert. Why is that so hard?
The problem with this program is that the kids are dumping the majority of the food on their plates into the trash rather than eating it. In theory, it sounds good, but in practice, it's been a disaster.
Indeed they do. US kids get sometimes 15 minutes at best. Which is absurd, and one of the main reasons for food waste - simply no time to actually eat. Serving lunch at 11 or sometimes before is just as much of a problem.French kids also get two-hour lunches.
Do you have evidence that their schools are smaller? Because geographically they are also smaller so they may well have just as many kids in their schools as we do.Of course the population of France is much smaller than the US, and our school cafeterias are not designed to allow every child a two-hour lunch.
Not in our experience, and my wife has worked in 13 different states over the years at multiple districts.Demographics plays a big part, but not wages so much -- most school districts pay their cooks quite a bit more than minimum wage.
Interesting that they are doing it in % eaten and deducing less was thrown away. That isn't how it works.
Also, they found that kids are "choosing" more fruit... why do authoritarians always take adherence to the rules as free choice?
Because they are starving.
But also LOL at government studies that show the government is doing a great job. :roll:
French schoolchildren are taught to eat healthy meals; American children are basically treated as a disposal site for farm surpluses.
I agree that being a "cafeteria lady" is a good gig for moms with school-age kids and for others who want only a part-time job and who don't have a "marketable" skill-set either. I also think that it's as "worthy" a job as any other, and there are possibilities for advancement.
I've never seen cafeteria food that looks like "prison food." Of course, I've never seen prison food first-hand and have to rely on others' descriptions. I know that my county motel serves TV dinners and sandwiches.
What I have seen first-hand is attractive-to-look at and wholesome meals which little kids take one bite of and then toss in the trash can--baked chicken breasts, green beans, rolls, and fruit for dessert. I always packed my kids' lunches, but when I could, I'd go up to elementary school to eat lunch with one of my kids (Obviously, in middle school this would be way uncool.) The lunches were nutritious and looked pretty good to me.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/01/17/usda-proposes-changing-school-menus-allow-more-fries-pizza-fewer-vegetables-fruits-reversing-michelle-obama-effort/
Funny thing is, that was my issue when I ran for class president in the 8th grade.
Actually that is how it works. Otherwise you're not taking into account the fact that there are more kids now.
Catholic School. Saint Dennis. 1-8 It was! I forgot my lunch one time. Told my teacher (nun). She told me not to worry and follow her. I thought I was going to eat lunch with the nuns. She took me to a big room filled with tables and chairs. Then she left and after some time brought me food and then left again. Ate lunch alone. When lunch time was over she returned and I followed her back to the classroom.
Attended (public) Bogan High School. Didn’t like public school. Did like hanging out at the malt shop after school. Ate food and drank malts there and hung out with friends.
What flavor of cookies?
Roseann
Is there proof it won't? Is what was stated true, that the new rules will allow more fries and fewer vegetables..?
It's a map of food deserts in the united states. DUH.
Food deserts aren't 'named'. No one says hey this is the Sahara Food Desert. You're asking stupid questions, and insisting on remaining ignorant to the facts. You were given an entire country-wide map of the hundreds of food deserts in the US. This isn't rocket science.
Wow, people who don't know how to do anything but slop reheated chicken nuggets and sloppy joes on a plate don't know how to make food tasty or look appetizing? Who woulda thunk? Maybe they didn't put in that effort because they have zero training in how to, or don't care to because the schools pay them a measly minimum wage? DUH.
“During school site visits, I was shocked to see that virtually everything in school meals came from a can or plastic packaging,” Hartle said. “Meat came frozen, pre-packaged, pre-cooked and pre-seasoned. Salads were pre-cut and pre-bagged. Corn, peaches and green beans came in cans. The only items not packaged in plastic were oranges, apples and bananas.”
This uptick in packaging is a result of schools’ efforts to streamline food preparation and meet federal nutrition standards while keeping costs low.
They don't spend much more than US public schools. And it's the schools and their cooks who decide where to get their 'supplies' from and what foods to get. The unimaginative ones with people who don't know how to cook get the sort of crap seen in those pictures. The cooks don't get all the blame - as I said, you get what you pay for, and many school districts are so cheap they pay minimum wage and get people who couldn't cook a fresh meal if their life depended on it.