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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

    Interesting that they are doing it in % eaten and deducing less was thrown away. That isn't how it works.

    Also, they found that kids are "choosing" more fruit... why do authoritarians always take adherence to the rules as free choice?

    Because they are starving.

    But also LOL at government studies that show the government is doing a great job.
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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    Cafeteria work is a good gig for moms with school age children since you are working when they are at school. Before Sam Walton adopted a flexible scheduling model at Walmart it was one of the few jobs that otherwise stay at home moms could get and not have to turn around and spend their money on daycare or sitters or leave kids as latchkey children. In our school system, they enjoy the same sort of mandatory pay raises based on years of service as many government employees. You may start off as a MW dishwasher only getting 12-15 hours a week, but over time, you can put on some serious hourly rates for that level labor. Anyway, there is usually a waiting list for women wanting the job.
    I agree that being a "cafeteria lady" is a good gig for moms with school-age kids and for others who want only a part-time job and who don't have a "marketable" skill-set either. I also think that it's as "worthy" a job as any other, and there are possibilities for advancement.

    I've never seen cafeteria food that looks like "prison food." Of course, I've never seen prison food first-hand and have to rely on others' descriptions. I know that my county motel serves TV dinners and sandwiches.

    What I have seen first-hand is attractive-to-look at and wholesome meals which little kids take one bite of and then toss in the trash can--baked chicken breasts, green beans, rolls, and fruit for dessert. I always packed my kids' lunches, but when I could, I'd go up to elementary school to eat lunch with one of my kids (Obviously, in middle school this would be way uncool.) The lunches were nutritious and looked pretty good to me.

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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

    How many know how heavy spinach gets while dumping the Cafeteria trash like I do?
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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

    French schoolchildren are taught to eat healthy meals; American children are basically treated as a disposal site for farm surpluses.
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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
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    Funny thing is, that was my issue when I ran for class president in the 8th grade.
    This is reminiscent of the reagan years when his administration declared that in school lunches, ketchup was a vegetable.


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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    Lipps never wrote all of the above. That was the opinion of Colin Schwartz, deputy director of legislative affairs for Center for Science in the Public Interest who surmised that Lipp's new ruling “would create a huge loophole in school nutrition guidelines, paving the way for children to choose pizza, burgers, french fries and other foods high in calories, saturated fat or sodium in place of balanced school meals every day.”

    There's no proof that Schwartz's opinions will come to fruition.

    Read more about his fear-mongering here:
    USDA proposes changing school menus to allow more fries and fewer vegetables, reversing a Michelle Obama effort

    Is there proof it won't? Is what was stated true, that the new rules will allow more fries and fewer vegetables..?
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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    there is nothing wrong with the nutrition in a big mac.

    in fact dollar for dollar it is better nutrition than most people can afford. that isn't the issue.

    the issue is sitting on your ass not doing anything.
    kids playing video games more than they sleep.


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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CharisRose View Post
    Yes, but they didn’t make them tasty or even look appetizing. Why do you suppose they didn’t put in the extra effort to accomplish making a tasty dish or to look appetizing?

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    Wow, people who don't know how to do anything but slop reheated chicken nuggets and sloppy joes on a plate don't know how to make food tasty or look appetizing? Who woulda thunk? Maybe they didn't put in that effort because they have zero training in how to, or don't care to because the schools pay them a measly minimum wage? DUH.

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    Re: More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CharisRose View Post
    Even a good chef would have difficulty making a good tasty meal if all they had to work with is glop you throw in an oven and frozen stuff you put in a microwave.
    But that's NOT what they have to work with. I'm unsure what is hard to grasp here. The cooks at these schools are untrained minimum wage employees, whose cooking skills are glop and frozen stuff. Chefs are not. This isn't rocket science.
    You seem to be blaming the cooks as being the problem calling them crappy wannabes and not placing any blame on the supplies they must use and then expecting those cooks to turn them into tasty healthy meals.

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    Yes, I AM blaming the cooks because most schools do not bother to hire anyone who actuall knows how to cook beyond frozen things and bizarre concoctions. Let alone pay enough for people who actually know what they are doing.

    My wife's school (public) pays actual chefs, and has delicious food from the 'supplies they must use' which includes the school gardens. And food waste there has dropped to an all-time low.

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