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More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules

americanwoman said:
Wow one picture and less than a dozen schools researched.

But I'm sure that represents the millions of students in America.

Maybe we should let the children decide every policy, since they seem to know what's best.
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Like I said Google it. I just gave you one example. There are HUNDREDS of articles on the problem. I accept your surrender.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I don’t have a problem with obesity.

It’s largely a personal choice, I have no desire to socially engineer other people’s behavior
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That is sad you don't have a problem with the obesity epidemic that robs citizens of around 20 years of their life.

We are already engaging in social engineering by kowtowing to corporations who want to feed addictive junk to our country's children. Our taxdollars create the obesity epidemic and our taxdollars fund the health care industry that tries to 'fix' it. Doesn't seem like a very conservative policy, to me.
 
Geoist said:
That is sad you don't have a problem with the obesity epidemic that robs citizens of around 20 years of their life.

We are already engaging in social engineering by kowtowing to corporations who want to feed addictive junk to our country's children. Our taxdollars create the obesity epidemic and our taxdollars fund the health care industry that tries to 'fix' it. Doesn't seem like a very conservative policy, to me.
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Why is it only the mentally-deranged left feel the need to dictate to others how they should live their lives? They are all fascist hypocrites and a complete waste of human flesh.
 
Geoist said:
That is sad you don't have a problem with the obesity epidemic that robs citizens of around 20 years of their life.

We are already engaging in social engineering by kowtowing to corporations who want to feed addictive junk to our country's children. Our taxdollars create the obesity epidemic and our taxdollars fund the health care industry that tries to 'fix' it. Doesn't seem like a very conservative policy, to me.
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There are two issues here:

1) The standards didn't work. They're resulting in food waste, and kids avoiding the food all together, with many opting out of the food. It's also very difficult for schools to manage. No question - part of the reason kids are dumping food in the trash is poor preparation and poor quality ingredients. But this isn't 'addressing the obesity epidemic' and is causing more waste. Time to reassess.

2) The proposal is to give more flexibility at the local level to provide options. That's a very good thing. Food quality and choice should be addressed at the local level, not on a national 'one size fits all' basis. It's better to let local states and school districts make these decisions, and share the programs that work.
 
Glitch said:
Why is it only the mentally-deranged left feel the need to dictate to others how they should live their lives? They are all fascist hypocrites and a complete waste of human flesh.
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That's funny coming from someone whose ideology wants the state to dictate who can/cannot get married.
 
dcsports said:
There are two issues here:

1) The standards didn't work. They're resulting in food waste, and kids avoiding the food all together, with many opting out of the food. It's also very difficult for schools to manage. No question - part of the reason kids are dumping food in the trash is poor preparation and poor quality ingredients. But this isn't 'addressing the obesity epidemic' and is causing more waste. Time to reassess.
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I am all for finding ways to cut down on school lunch waste in America. Obesity and waste are two issues that we can try to address. We don't have to try and choose one or the other.


2) The proposal is to give more flexibility at the local level to provide options. That's a very good thing. Food quality and choice should be addressed at the local level, not on a national 'one size fits all' basis. It's better to let local states and school districts make these decisions, and share the programs that work.
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If the taxdollars are strictly coming from those communities then I am all for them making the decisions. I am also all for parents and kids packing their own lunches. In reality, my taxdollars are contributing to the obesity epidemic in the Deep South. So long as my taxdollars go there I do not want it to be paying for cheeseburgers and pizza.

Look at other countries and their school lunches. How much of that much healthier food is being wasted? They definitely seem to have better eating habits in Japan and Norway...
 
Geoist said:
That is sad you don't have a problem with the obesity epidemic that robs citizens of around 20 years of their life.

We are already engaging in social engineering by kowtowing to corporations who want to feed addictive junk to our country's children. Our taxdollars create the obesity epidemic and our taxdollars fund the health care industry that tries to 'fix' it. Doesn't seem like a very conservative policy, to me.
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Just eat (roughly) 2,500 calories per day (for an adult male), and you won't be obese.
 
Geoist said:
That's funny coming from someone whose ideology wants the state to dictate who can/cannot get married.
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A fine example of the irrational left making up their own lies and then believing their own stupidity. A common trait among the mentally defective left. Is it any wonder they have such a tenuous grasp on reality?
 
Glitch said:
A fine example of the irrational left making up their own lies and then believing their own stupidity. A common trait among the mentally defective left. Is it any wonder they have such a tenuous grasp on reality?
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:lamo

You have nothing so you troll. Dear Leader would be proud.
 
MY GOD! TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION IS ALLOWING THE KIDS MORE OPTIONS TO EAT, INCLUDING THE THINGS EVERYONE LIKES TO EAT! THE FIENDS!

...Really?...Are you really serious that this is somehow worthy of front page news? Do you guys know what kids like? Do you know what kids are? Did you know that you were kids once? Would you rather have vegetables over pizza? Last I knew, a slice pizza always tastes good over a thing of broccoli and peas when you're hanging out with your friends during lunch. Not saying it's the most healthy thing (nor the most unhealthy), but if it at least gets them to eat during the day, that's what matters. You want the kids to eat their veggies? Simple solution: BE A PARENT AND DO IT YOURSELF WHEN THEY'RE AT HOME!

Seriously, Mr/Ms Moderator, really really, REALLY listen: move this thread to an entirely different section. Conspiracy, Health, or General Discussion because this isn't anything dire. It's a bunch of people up in arms about NOTHING. This is back of the news paper stuff and not worthy in being in this section. Thank You!
 
Samwise said:
Why is this an issue that concerns the general government? It has no legislative power over such matters. Any of the several sovereign states can address this issue as they see fit.
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It is a fine example of Democrats usurping powers reserved exclusively to the States. Something Republicans warned the nation that Democrats would do when they unconstitutionally seized education from the States in 1980. Because the States and local government have now become dependent on illegal federal dollars pouring into education they kowtow to every federal demand, no matter how ridiculous or harmful to the students.

According to the Tenth Amendment the federal government has absolutely no authority with regard to education. That is a power reserved exclusively to the States.
 
Glitch said:
It is a fine example of Democrats usurping powers reserved exclusively to the States. Something Republicans warned the nation that Democrats would do when they unconstitutionally seized education from the States in 1980. Because the States and local government have now become dependent on illegal federal dollars pouring into education they kowtow to every federal demand, no matter how ridiculous or harmful to the students.

According to the Tenth Amendment the federal government has absolutely no authority with regard to education. That is a power reserved exclusively to the States.
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Agreed. But it's not the 10th amendment. It's the total lack of legislative power in the original treaty.
 
Samwise said:
Agreed. But it's not the 10th amendment. It's the total lack of legislative power in the original treaty.
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The Tenth Amendment states that federal government only has the powers specifically granted to it by the US Constitution. All other powers, except for those the US Constitution specifically prohibits to the States, belong to the States and/or the people.

Firearms, social spending, education, and healthcare are just a few examples of powers reserved exclusively to the States and denied to the federal government by the Tenth Amendment.
 
Glitch said:
The Tenth Amendment states that federal government only has the powers specifically granted to it by the US Constitution. All other powers, except for those the US Constitution specifically prohibits to the States, belong to the States and/or the people.

Firearms, social spending, education, and healthcare are just a few examples of powers reserved exclusively to the States and denied to the federal government by the Tenth Amendment.
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Agreed. But even without the bill of rights, the constitution contains no legislative power regarding schools or lunches.

Remember, Hamilton (spit!) argued that there was no need for a bill or rights because the constitution prohibited (by omission) all powers not specifically delegated by the parties to the treaty.
 
Samwise said:
Agreed. But even without the bill of rights, the constitution contains no legislative power regarding schools or lunches.

Remember, Hamilton (spit!) argued that there was no need for a bill or rights because the constitution prohibited (by omission) all powers not specifically delegated by the parties to the treaty.
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The US Constitution is not a treaty. It is the "Supreme Law of the Land," treaties couldn't exist without US Constitution since it describes the process by which all treaties are ratified.

The reason the federal government has seen to encroach on the powers of the States and the rights of its citizens goes back to when FDR was President. By 1936 the Supreme Court had ruled 11 of the 15 New Deal programs FDR wanted as unconstitutional. Between 1937 and 1943 FDR had all nine of the Supreme Court justices replaced (whether they wanted to be or not). As a result decisions by the Supreme Court between 1937 and 1946 (when Truman made his first Supreme Court appointment) were entirely FDR's justices and ruled on his behalf, regardless of what the US Constitution actually said.

Which is how we ended up with the unconstitutional Social Security, United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939), and Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942) among many others. It would take 53 years before the Supreme Court finally overturned their bad Wickard ruling in United States v. Alfonso D. Lopez, Jr., 514 U.S. 549 (1995). Considering it took the Supreme Court 152 years before they finally incorporated the Eighth Amendment and made it applicable to the States, I would not expect the Supreme Court to right the wrongs done in that one decade by FDR's court for at least another century or more.

Federal involvement in school lunches began under Truman, another socialist fascist, in 1946 with Public Law 79-396. Congress had no authority, naturally, but since when has that ever stopped a fascist leftist? Truman had no authority to nationalize the steel industry either, but he tried anyway.

The people are still paying for the crimes committed under both FDR's and Truman's administration.

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Richard B. Russel National School Lunch Act
 
Geoist said:
I am all for finding ways to cut down on school lunch waste in America. Obesity and waste are two issues that we can try to address. We don't have to try and choose one or the other.
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I agree with you. The problem is that the standards didn't 'fix' obesity, but did drastically increase waste. Time to make some adjustments. Giving local districts some flexibility to try to achieve a better balance is a logical next step.

Geoist said:
If the taxdollars are strictly coming from those communities then I am all for them making the decisions. I am also all for parents and kids packing their own lunches. In reality, my taxdollars are contributing to the obesity epidemic in the Deep South. So long as my taxdollars go there I do not want it to be paying for cheeseburgers and pizza.

Look at other countries and their school lunches. How much of that much healthier food is being wasted? They definitely seem to have better eating habits in Japan and Norway...
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Not sure where you are getting this "deep South" business. Obesity is an issue in all communities. And all communities pay in tax dollars, some of which are returned to the community for this type of program. Your food preferences, or spending preferences, are irrelevant. And advocating for federal control of local programs by threatening funding isn't very libertarian.

Looking at food programs in other countries is a great idea. How do those programs work?
 
Glitch said:
The US Constitution is not a treaty.
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What else do you call an agreement established between sovereign states?
It is the "Supreme Law of the Land," treaties couldn't exist without US Constitution since it describes the process by which all treaties are ratified.

The reason the federal government has seen to encroach on the powers of the States and the rights of its citizens goes back to when FDR was President. By 1936 the Supreme Court had ruled 11 of the 15 New Deal programs FDR wanted as unconstitutional. Between 1937 and 1943 FDR had all nine of the Supreme Court justices replaced (whether they wanted to be or not). As a result decisions by the Supreme Court between 1937 and 1946 (when Truman made his first Supreme Court appointment) were entirely FDR's justices and ruled on his behalf, regardless of what the US Constitution actually said.

Which is how we ended up with the unconstitutional Social Security, United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939), and Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942) among many others. It would take 53 years before the Supreme Court finally overturned their bad Wickard ruling in United States v. Alfonso D. Lopez, Jr., 514 U.S. 549 (1995). Considering it took the Supreme Court 152 years before they finally incorporated the Eighth Amendment and made it applicable to the States, I would not expect the Supreme Court to right the wrongs done in that one decade by FDR's court for at least another century or more.

Federal involvement in school lunches began under Truman, another socialist fascist, in 1946 with Public Law 79-396. Congress had no authority, naturally, but since when has that ever stopped a fascist leftist? Truman had no authority to nationalize the steel industry either, but he tried anyway.

The people are still paying for the crimes committed under both FDR's and Truman's administration.

Source:
Richard B. Russel National School Lunch Act
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I agree that involvement in school lunches is not an authorized legislative power.
 
j brown's body said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/01/17/usda-proposes-changing-school-menus-allow-more-fries-pizza-fewer-vegetables-fruits-reversing-michelle-obama-effort/

Funny thing is, that was my issue when I ran for class president in the 8th grade.
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I think Moochelle's gargantuan fat ass undercut her own rules.

But more importantly, the very thought that the federal government has become so unconstitutional and interfering in our lives that it thinks it can tell us how to eat is just further proof that government is an evil beast that must be starved.
 
Glitch said:
The Tenth Amendment states that federal government only has the powers specifically granted to it by the US Constitution. All other powers, except for those the US Constitution specifically prohibits to the States, belong to the States and/or the people.

Firearms, social spending, education, and healthcare are just a few examples of powers reserved exclusively to the States and denied to the federal government by the Tenth Amendment.
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Liberals don't care about those facts
 
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