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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

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    Um...Jonathan Turley also believes that a bribe can only be a bribe if it's cash. Maybe Jonathan Turley is just a dumbass.
    Maddow/Parnas proved Turley's a dumbass this very evening. That interview coming out before Pelosi hands the impeachment over to the Senate is a huge win.
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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    Pretty much known that Nancy doesn't counsel with any members of the democrat party unless they tell her what she wants to hear. She doesn't seek out the other viewpoint, not Schumer's or Steny Hower, and only Schiff and Nadler because they a fine with having their nose's up Nancy's tush. They are puppets who do what they are told. Nancy has orchestrated a mess and now she is trying to save face. Why? Because she knows there are those on the extreme left that want her gone and if she missteps too much they will vote her out.
    Did you make that up all by yourself, or did the man on the AM radio do that little bit of imagineering for you?

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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

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    Jonathan Turley: Pelosi '''played into''' McConnell'''s hands, '''destroyed''' her own case for impeachment | Fox News

    Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley laid out a sweeping indictment of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., arguing that her impeachment strategy backfired and gave Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., the upper hand.

    "The delay now seems largely driven by a desire to preserve the image of Pelosi as a master strategist despite a blunder of the first order," Turley wrote in a column titled, "Pelosi's Blunder: How the House Destroyed its Own Case for Impeachment."

    His comments came as Pelosi prepared to transmit articles of impeachment to the Senate, roughly a month after the House approved them. She initially withheld them in an apparent attempt to draw concessions from McConnell. On Wednesday she announced the seven lawmakers who will serve as impeachment managers to prosecute the case against the president at his Senate trial.

    "There was no reason why Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell would make concessions to get an impeachment that he loathed," Turley wrote.

    Turley similarly suggested that Pelosi pushed impeachment out of "vanity" and would pay a "high price" for doing so.

    "The fact is that Pelosi played into the hands of McConnell by first rushing this impeachment forward with an incomplete record and now giving him the excuse to summarily change the rules, or even to dismiss the articles," he said.

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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    Pretty much known that Nancy doesn't counsel with any members of the democrat party unless they tell her what she wants to hear. She doesn't seek out the other viewpoint, not Schumer's or Steny Hower, and only Schiff and Nadler because they a fine with having their nose's up Nancy's tush. They are puppets who do what they are told. Nancy has orchestrated a mess and now she is trying to save face. Why? Because she knows there are those on the extreme left that want her gone and if she missteps too much they will vote her out.
    Is that the changing narrative one that Hannity and Rush Limpdick tell you? I thought you righties were saying this was "all a ploy" and Nancy was "Never going to release the articles of impeachment". Now that she has, she has destroyed another talking point from the idiot conservative conspiracy nutjobs.
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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

    Pelosi wanted witnesses to be called and her delay made that a hot topic on the front burner during the last four weeks. And she will most likely get her wish. And even if she does not and witnesses are barred from the trial, then the whole thing will be seen as a sham trial with a fixed jury who did not want to hear the whole case.

    Either way Pelosi comes out a winner.

    Turley is on the wrong side of this issue and will forever damage his reputation.
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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

    No less than 8 democrats have already made statements that would cause any judge in the country to remove them from a potential jury pool. Im sure the same can be said for republicans. We know the vast majority of the House democrats made up their minds to impeach long ago. All this any of this really guarantees is that the process is no longer impeachment for the good of the country based on high crimes and misdemeanors...but rather politics as usual.

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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No less than 8 democrats have already made statements that would cause any judge in the country to remove them from a potential jury pool. Im sure the same can be said for republicans. We know the vast majority of the House democrats made up their minds to impeach long ago. All this any of this really guarantees is that the process is no longer impeachment for the good of the country based on high crimes and misdemeanors...but rather politics as usual.
    Almost every Republican has done the same in the Senate. McConnell basically said he would let the defense run the trial, something no judge in any normal trial would allow, especially not from a jurist.

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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Almost every Republican has done the same in the Senate. McConnell basically said he would let the defense run the trial, something no judge in any normal trial would allow, especially not from a jurist.

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    I stated as much in my post.

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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    Pretty much known that Nancy doesn't counsel with any members of the democrat party unless they tell her what she wants to hear. She doesn't seek out the other viewpoint, not Schumer's or Steny Hower, and only Schiff and Nadler because they a fine with having their nose's up Nancy's tush. They are puppets who do what they are told. Nancy has orchestrated a mess and now she is trying to save face. Why? Because she knows there are those on the extreme left that want her gone and if she missteps too much they will vote her out.
    It's amazing how often a post with "democrat [sic] party" is full of right wing partisan nonsense and drivel. It's almost like a sign!

    E.g. ‘Only with Nancy’: How Schumer and Pelosi stuck together on the shutdown - POLITICO

    “We realize we’re a team,” Schumer said in an interview [referring to Pelosi]. “Sometimes we talk strategy four to five times a day. And there are times we disagree. But we come to the same result.”

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    Re: Jonathan Turley: Pelosi 'played into' McConnell's hands, 'destroyed' her own case for impeachmen

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I stated as much in my post.
    As an aside, yes. And said it almost as if it was possible they didnt make such statements, alleging they did while asserting Dems did. You did not treat those statements equally at all, putting most of the political parlaying on Dems, as if they are most guilty in this situation.

    It is a political trial. If found guilty, Trump would be removed from office, and that is it. Not even sure he couldnt run again for President (afterall, Roy Moore did and won).

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