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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    I'm not a lawyer, but it seems it might be easier for Trump to pardon him if he claims ty .
    To accept a pardon is to accept the responsibility of doing the crime. You also no longer have the right to remain silent on that matter, so if he is ask specifically about Trumps involvement, he legally can not refuse to answer.
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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Former FBI lawyer under investigation after allegedly altering document in 2016 Russia probe - CNNPolitics Clinesmith altered multiple documents.

    The duress was threatening to bankrupt Flynn's son with continuous litigation unless Flynn plea bargained. That is the definition of duress.
    Ah yes, the 'under investigtion'. I bet by now, the investigation is done, and no wrong doing is found
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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    Ah yes, the 'under investigtion'. I bet by now, the investigation is done, and no wrong doing is found
    Horowitz recommended charges for Clinesmith.

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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Horowitz recommended charges for Clinesmith.
    THat is the claim of several far right web sites, and pseudo news organizations. Yet, no charges have been brought as of yet. It's just evaporated.
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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    Considering his bad faith, I suspect it is unlikely that the judge will accept his withdrawal.
    the judge has no choice. the judge cannot stop him from changing his plea to not guilty.
    facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    The guy on whom the FBI lied (altering interview 302's), the same guy the FBI agents stated he didn't lie to them, I hope the judge permits his withdraw of his guilty plea, as it was made under threat and duress. You know? Like fairness and justice?

    Or are some willing to acquiesces to to government lying, and then take the plea the government dictates?
    Are you familiar with the term banana republic? What you described sounds like a banana republic.
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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    The guy on whom the FBI lied (altering interview 302's), the same guy the FBI agents stated he didn't lie to them, I hope the judge permits his withdraw of his guilty plea, as it was made under threat and duress. You know? Like fairness and justice?

    Or are some willing to acquiesces to to government lying, and then take the plea the government dictates?
    The judge has no choice he cannot stop him from changing his plea to not guilty.
    A defendant can typically withdraw a guilty plea that a judge hasnít yet accepted. Also, defendants who have pleaded but not yet been sentenced can sometimes get out of their deals, particularly when the judge rejects the negotiated agreement pursuant to which the defendant pleaded.
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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    the judge has no choice. the judge cannot stop him from changing his plea to not guilty.
    That is misinformation.


    From Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea after Justice Department flips on prison time

    The judge must sign off for the withdrawal of Flynn's plea to go through. It is possible that the judge could reject his motion and let the plea stand.

    Should the judge accept Flynn's request, there will likely be another 30-day delay before next steps that would likely lead to a trial.
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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay59 View Post
    What if he was genuinely innocent? That seems to be a legitimate possibility.
    What is he's really Jesus returned to Earth and this is the second Crucifixion?
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    Re: Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    You mean more like in fairy tales and fantasy land. The agents stated no such thing and there was no duress. They actually gave him multiple prompts and chances to reconsider and change his answers because they weren't matching up with the information they had. But he didn't. He lied. Plain and simple.
    Michael Flynn's lawyer on Monday demanded in a court filing that the FBI thoroughly search its internal "Sentinel database" and turn over "every" document in which agents described their critical January 2017 White House interview with the former national security adviser, after it emerged last month that FBI officials had apparently manipulated the so-called "302" witness report in the case weeks after the interview.

    Flynn's attorney, Sidney Powell, also asserted that separate handwritten notes from the interview drafted by since-fired FBI agent Peter Strzok and another agent are plainly inconsistent with one another, as well as the final FBI 302 that underpinned Flynn's guilty plea for one count of making false statements to investigators.

    The FBI lied to flynn when they went to interview him and made no indication that what he said was under oath or sworn testimony.

    Although the government has insisted that the FBI's after-the-fact edits to the 302 report were "largely grammatical and stylistic," Powell argued that they were in fact highly substantive and improper alterations that inaccurately made it appear that Flynn had issued blanket denials to agents' questions.

    Powell noted in the filing that she will file a motion seeking to have the case against Flynn thrown out because of "egregious government misconduct." Most courts agree that the Supreme Court "would find that the government has an obligation to disclose exculpatory evidence at the plea stage," Powell wrote, adding that the government had deliberately manipulated its witness reports to secure a guilty plea.

    why do you support such corruption at the FBI?
    facts don't care about your feelings.

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