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Michael Flynn moves to withdraw guilty plea, citing 'bad faith' by government

W_Heisenberg said:
Flynn had several choices: Flynn could have refrained from saying anything at all to the FBI. Flynn could have told the truth to the FBI. Flynn could have lied.

Flynn chose to lie.

It's not the FBI's fault that Flynn lied. Flynn is a grown man. Flynn is responsible for his own behavior. Flynn is not a victim.
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It's not Flynn's fault that Strzok and fellow conspirators overruled Comey to unlawfully use Flynn as a stepping stone to attempt to overthrow Trump. Thank God a federal appeals court (with one Obama appointee objecting) told Judge Sullivan to stop violating the law and dismiss the fraudulent case against Flynn like he was legally obligated to do.

Appeals court orders judge to grant DOJ motion to dismiss Flynn case - Court orders judge to dismiss the Flynn case.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Flynn had several choices: Flynn could have refrained from saying anything at all to the FBI. Flynn could have told the truth to the FBI. Flynn could have lied.
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Of course Flynn should have said nothing and he knows that now, as do all Americans. Never speak to any FBI member any time, any place or anywhere without a lawyer present. The meeting took place in the White House and Flynn trusted them, thinking they were all on the same side, working for their country. ?Now everyone knows differently, the upside is That he'll sue and win millions.
Flynn chose to lie.
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What lie was that?
It's not the FBI's fault that Flynn lied. Flynn is a grown man. Flynn is responsible for his own behavior. Flynn is not a victim.
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Yes he is and will be awarded millions.
Flynn should have been warned of his rights.

I think you've flogged this dead horse long enough. We'll see what the investigation says.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Of course Flynn should have said nothing and he knows that now, as do all Americans. Never speak to any FBI member any time, any place or anywhere without a lawyer present. The meeting took place in the White House and Flynn trusted them, thinking they were all on the same side, working for their country. ?Now everyone knows differently, the upside is That he'll sue and win millions.
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If Flynn thought the FBI was on his side then why did Flynn lie to the FBI?

What lie was that?
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You've read up on this. You know what he said and what he pleaded guilty to.

He pretended to not remember his discussions with Kislyak about the diplomatic sanctions and Russia's response to it.

He also lied about his discussions with Kislyak about the Israeli settlement vote in the U.N.

And, no, saying "I don't know" or "I don't remember" is not a good tactic. Ask all the mafia thugs who've been charged and convicted under false statement charges over the years.

Yes he is and will be awarded millions. Flynn should have been warned of his rights.
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This is incorrect. It was a voluntary interview. The FBI had no obligation to do so.

I think you've flogged this dead horse long enough. We'll see what the investigation says.
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I'm not the one that keeps lying about what happened. It's the pro-Trump media and Trump's fans on this forum that keep mischaracterizing the case, and also making wild, baseless accusations against the FBI without sufficient evidence.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Whoa! Who do you think is doing all this rioting, looting, police attacks, etc. Republicans? Is that what you've been told?

Do you really not know or just pretending?
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Damn, how did you find out that the DNC was coordinating the riots from Antifa central control located in Nancy Pelosi's house? You're onto us!
 
SLC said:
So the CHOP zone loves Trump!
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<sigh> Believe me, most of my local friends vote Democratic and we're all embarrassed by that situation! It's a **** show that none of us asked for!
 
lurchadams said:
Damn, how did you find out that the DNC was coordinating the riots from Antifa central control located in Nancy Pelosi's house? You're onto us!
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The silence of the DNC on the rioting is deafening. They can't piss off their base by speaking against the rioting and mob violence.
 
lurchadams said:
<sigh> Believe me, most of my local friends vote Democratic and we're all embarrassed by that situation! It's a **** show that none of us asked for!
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Lurch. When Seattle went as liberal as it has become it did in fact ask for this "summer of love". You got the leadership that you wanted and that leadership did little to nothing to stop the situation. The mayor should have insisted that the police stop the CHOP zone. I you vote for Biden you will see more of that kind of stuff.
 
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SLC said:
Lurch. When Seattle went as liberal as it has become it did in fact ask for this "summer of love". You got the leadership that you wanted and that leadership did little to nothing to stop the situation. The mayor should have insisted that the police stop the CHOP zone. I you vote for Biden you will see more of that kind of stuff.
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I'm sure you believe that. Things like CHOP are a push-back against the white supremacist movement enabled by this current administration.
 
SLC said:
I use to occasionally watch him but it was bad for my blood pressure. So I had to stop.
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Just watch Rachel every night! She'll calm you down :)
 
lurchadams said:
I'm sure you believe that. Things like CHOP are a push-back against the white supremacist movement enabled by this current administration.
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I'm sure you believe that but the is a reason it happened in Seattle and not Houston. That embarrassing BS would not have been allowed in Texas. You have it in Seattle for a reason. Why is looting black owned businesses a push back for white supremacists? Sounds more like taking advantage of a lack of police protect to score a new pair of Nike.
 
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SLC said:
The silence of the DNC on the rioting is deafening. They can't piss off their base by speaking against the rioting and mob violence.
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And that is their base.


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lurchadams said:
I'm sure you believe that. Things like CHOP are a push-back against the white supremacist movement enabled by this current administration.
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The white supremacist movement... in the Seattle city government?
 
dcsports said:
The white supremacist movement... in the Seattle city government?
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Yes, Seattle was filled with White Supremacists. The Chamber of Commerce looked like a Klan meeting. Something had to be done and CHOP was the solution the City and Mayor came up with. Haven't seen any White Supremacists since. Or elephants for that matter.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Yes, Seattle was filled with White Supremacists. The Chamber of Commerce looked like a Klan meeting. Something had to be done and CHOP was the solution the City and Mayor came up with. Haven't seen any White Supremacists since. Or elephants for that matter.
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Sarcasm at its best.
 
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