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Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

Hatuey said:
There is no trial contesting the election results of the 2016. Trump won.

Posting photoshopped pictures of Margaret Sanger at KKK rallies cause you hate abortions is one thing.

Purposely ignoring the evidence being presented at an actual trial is another. One feeds your delusions about people, the other feeds those of others.

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I have no delusions. The House articles of impeachment are a joke. The only way you can reach conclusions where you sit is to turn the Constitution into a pretzel. That's nothing new from leftists as they have been trampling the document quite some time.

So "I baba yaga" just curious do you wear a babooshka too as most "babas" in the old country do?
 
vesper said:
I have no delusions. The House articles of impeachment are a joke. The only way you can reach conclusions where you sit is to turn the Constitution into a pretzel. That's nothing new from leftists as they have been trampling the document quite some time.

So "I baba yaga" just curious do you wear a babooshka too as most "babas" in the old country do?
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The Joke is in the WH and how many suck up the swill.
Partisanship over Country, sad but true
 
Mr Person said:
I genuinely worry about the future course of America. There was plenty of reason to worry before. Perhaps it was always going to go the same way. This might speed it up though.


How do things simmer down after this? What Trump's defenders are doing is almost literally barging into our houses, taking a steaming dump right on the center of any entryway rug we might have, raiding the fridge, and kicking our pet(s). Then saying we made them do it.
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I would be terribly ****ing worried if I were you yes.

I used to believe that DP was a microcosm that didn’t represent the electorate at all.

No more, the Trumpites in this thread are a reflection of tens of millions of voters and that is about as scary a proposition as it can be.

It’s beyond a difference of opinion, it is now realities diverging from each other.
 
vesper said:
I have no delusions. The House articles of impeachment are a joke. The only way you can reach conclusions where you sit is to turn the Constitution into a pretzel. That's nothing new from leftists as they have been trampling the document quite some time.

So "I baba yaga" just curious do you wear a babooshka too as most "babas" in the old country do?
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If you feel trials shouldn't have witnesses, and evidence, say so. I like that all of this stuff is coming out now.

So you can repeat the same things you've said every time a guy who associates with the WH finds another way of incriminating Trump in what they were doing.

Stone, Flynn, Manaforte, please, just take a seat, watch the proceedings. Maybe watch a movie. John Wick 3 is really good.

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Hatuey said:
If you feel trials shouldn't have witnesses, and evidence, say so. I like that all of this stuff is coming out now.

So you can repeat the same things you've said every time a guy who associates with the WH finds another way of incriminating Trump in what they were doing.

Stone, Flynn, Manaforte, please, just take a seat, watch the proceedings.

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It’s fairly hilarious to have a Trump supporter say they have no delusions.
 
New: Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch calls for investigation after evidence reveals GOP congressional candidate & Giuliani associate Lev Parnas discussed surveilling her. “The notion that American citizens and others were monitoring Ambassador Yovanovitch’s movements..is disturbing,” says her attorney.

Jim Sciutto on Twitter: "New: Amb Marie Yovanovitch calls for investigation after evidence reveals GOP congressional candidate & Giuliani associate Lev Parnas discussed surveilling her. “The notion that American citizens & others were monitoring Amb Yovanovitch’s movements..is disturbing,” says her atty."

So as usual, when Republicans accuse Democrats of something, they're not just projecting; they're announcing what they plan to do.
 
RAMOSS said:
No, it is a violation of election law to have a foreign power to investigate your political opponent, as a 'favor', and then immediately withhold aid 90 minutes after asking that favor.
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But Joe Biden is not yet Trump's 'political opponent'. He is a Democratic candidate and it has not yet been determined who Trump's political opponent might be. Thus no election laws have been broken and no crimes committed.
 
Hatuey said:
No way this is a real train of thought.

You really think Rudy is a crusader for anticorruption?

Lawd Jebus.




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But Netanyahu isn't corrupt, even though he just got indicted for corruption.
And yet somehow Israel got that big fat check as usual.

Yeah, Rudy and Donnie, crusaders against corruption :lamo

BTW, who's election or reelection campaigns were Hunter and Joe working on?
Enough of trying to compare two wildly dissimilar things as a smokescreen to cover up an illegal and unconstitutional act.
 
JANFU said:
The Joke is in the WH and how many suck up the swill.
Partisanship over Country, sad but true
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You made me :lamo.

A partisan for U.S. Democrats who lives in Canada is going to talk to me about partisanship. That is really choice. Maybe you should focus on what is going on in your own country. But then again you are probably a part of the problem.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I would be terribly ****ing worried if I were you yes.

I used to believe that DP was a microcosm that didn’t represent the electorate at all.

No more, the Trumpites in this thread are a reflection of tens of millions of voters and that is about as scary a proposition as it can be.

It’s beyond a difference of opinion, it is now realities diverging from each other.
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Finally...been saying that since before 2016.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I would be terribly ****ing worried if I were you yes.

I used to believe that DP was a microcosm that didn’t represent the electorate at all.

No more, the Trumpites in this thread are a reflection of tens of millions of voters and that is about as scary a proposition as it can be.

It’s beyond a difference of opinion, it is now realities diverging from each other.
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You just have to see the humor in train wrecks, is all.
 
vesper said:
You made me :lamo.

A partisan for U.S. Democrats who lives in Canada is going to talk to me about partisanship. That is really choice. Maybe you should focus on what is going on in your own country. But then again you are probably a part of the problem.
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... In Canada, people on the right tried to get Trudeau to resign over blackface. In America, he'd just be living in a different era, like the early 2000s.

I don't think they would approve of Ukrainians writing secret notes on hotel napkins about watching Harper or anyone in politics.

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Hamish Howl said:
You just have to see the humor in train wrecks, is all.
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While I normally do.

I don’t find much humour in people who are extremely stupid authoritarians and are too stupid to realize they’re stupid authoritarians actually wielding political power.
 
Jetboogieman said:
While I normally do.

I don’t find much humour in people who are extremely stupid authoritarians and are too stupid to realize they’re stupid authoritarians actually wielding political power.
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See, that's a proper train wreck.
 
vesper said:
You made me :lamo.

A partisan for U.S. Democrats who lives in Canada is going to talk to me about partisanship. That is really choice. Maybe you should focus on what is going on in your own country. But then again you are probably a part of the problem.
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Really, is that all you have?
OMG that member is from Canada, Canada bad
This is an international board, with member from around the world
Go and read your Bible as you need to be schooled on the Teachings of Jesus
 
Rudy Giuliani is no genius. It would be good for Donald Trump to let him continue as his lawyer.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
But Joe Biden is not yet Trump's 'political opponent'. He is a Democratic candidate and it has not yet been determined who Trump's political opponent might be. Thus no election laws have been broken and no crimes committed.
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At the time, he was leading the democratic poll. That makes him the a very strong potential political opponent. The way you are trying to explain away things is rather sad.
 
Hatuey said:
If you feel trials shouldn't have witnesses, and evidence, say so. I like that all of this stuff is coming out now.

So you can repeat the same things you've said every time a guy who associates with the WH finds another way of incriminating Trump in what they were doing.

Stone, Flynn, Manaforte, please, just take a seat, watch the proceedings. Maybe watch a movie. John Wick 3 is really good.

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Today McConnell was discussing witnesses. Democrats in the House should have went to the courts to get the witnesses they wanted. But they didn't because that would take too long and not only that they didn't have a case that would hold up in court. They said it was imminent that they impeach Trump ASAP because he was trying to interfere with the 2020 election. Yet Pelosi held on to the articles of impeachment for almost a month before passing them to the Senate which shoots that claim all to Hell.

But now when it gets to the Senate the Democrats want to call more witnesses. Be careful what you ask for. If this thing goes into a trial with witnesses that means both sides get to call witnesses.

Furthermore all the Democrats that are running for president, Sanders, Warren and Klobuchar will have to sit 6 days a week in hearings for weeks. Will Biden and Buttigieg and the two billionaires Steyer and Bloomberg put their campaigns on hold while the other candidates are having to sit in a trial listening to witnesses? And not only that witnesses involving Biden will be allowed to be called because this impeachment is over the call between Trump and the president of Ukraine. And what Trump was asking help on was help in corruption involved involving Biden's leading up to the 2016 election. There's a lot of **** I doubt Democrats would really want to come out especially with one of their front runners.

So yeah call witnesses, I am all for it.
 
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JANFU said:
Really, is that all you have?
OMG that member is from Canada, Canada bad
This is an international board, with member from around the world
Go and read your Bible as you need to be schooled on the Teachings of Jesus
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I know the teachings of Jesus. Do you?
 
Mr Person said:
I genuinely worry about the future course of America. There was plenty of reason to worry before. Perhaps it was always going to go the same way. This might speed it up though.


How do things simmer down after this? What Trump's defenders are doing is almost literally barging into our houses, taking a steaming dump right on the center of any entryway rug we might have, raiding the fridge, and kicking our pet(s). Then saying we made them do it.
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Jetboogieman said:
I would be terribly ****ing worried if I were you yes.

I used to believe that DP was a microcosm that didn’t represent the electorate at all.

No more, the Trumpites in this thread are a reflection of tens of millions of voters and that is about as scary a proposition as it can be.

It’s beyond a difference of opinion, it is now realities diverging from each other.
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It's ~40-43% of the politically voted population.

It's ****ed, about seventy ways from Sunday. And they're proud of it.





It's no significant exaggeration to compare it to me hypothetically announcing that .....that..... I can't come up with something that doesn't sound ridiculous on its face.
 
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