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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No way this is a real train of thought.

    You really think Rudy is a crusader for anticorruption?

    Lawd Jebus.




    Я Баба Яга Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows
    I genuinely worry about the future course of America. There was plenty of reason to worry before. Perhaps it was always going to go the same way. This might speed it up though.


    How do things simmer down after this? What Trump's defenders are doing is almost literally barging into our houses, taking a steaming dump right on the center of any entryway rug we might have, raiding the fridge, and kicking our pet(s). Then saying we made them do it.
    Zelensky: [. . .] We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

    Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though [. . . ]

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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    I genuinely worry about the future course of America. There was plenty of reason to worry before. Perhaps it was always going to go the same way. This might speed it up though.


    How do things simmer down after this? What Trump's defenders are doing is almost literally barging into our houses, taking a steaming dump right on the center of any entryway rug we might have, raiding the fridge, and kicking our pet(s). Then saying we made them do it.
    Right wingers are really in a desperate state because of this whole impeachment thing. Ideologically, they see no way to survive except a constant offense.

    Every historian of the future is currently being born. No way the same people who think the new generations are full of 'limp-wristed ' snowflaky ass librul godless cucks born to single mothers of America also think those generations view Giuliani and Trump as the good guys.

    The full blown crazy ones are the ones who've reached the conclusion that war is needed to protect them from the future because the political system will otherwise make them into slaves. It is inconceivable to them that Trump and Giuliani really are the crooks they were accusing everyone else of being.

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    Я Баба Яга Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows
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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    See?

    Falls under "ignore all the context". Many witnesses were perfectly clear that everyone - particularly Ukranians - understood that announcement of investigations into the Bidens before the 2020 elections was a precondition to release of aid, even a meeting with Trump. They knew that before the call, so they would obviously know what any vague demands for favors, investigations, or the like, was referring to.

    This is why drug traffickers who speak over the phone don't say "Hello, my name is [real name]. I am carrying the [exact weight] of [exact drug] that you want me to bring to you, Mr. [real name] at [actual delivery location]". That would be far too obvious. So the details are worked out in advance, and vague misdirecting speech is used. You know that but will be happy to lie about it ("but this is different cause I typed the word different!"). And of course you'd never demand to know when they admitted being a trafficker because you know that would be stupid and dishonest.




    I could tell you a little more relevant context, just a peek, such as.....

    And of course, once this broke Trump released the aid. As we know - it says right there on the bottom of the first page of the memo - that what you call a "transcript" is not a transcript, but a summary. A summary, that as Wapo reported, that is obviously missing a lot. On full recorded calls, Trump speaks ~120-130 wpm. If the text in the summary memo you call a "transcript" was the full call, he'd be speaking at around 60 wpm.

    Ukraine absolutely needs our aid, then, now, in the future. Zelensky would be acting against his national interest if he took either side.

    ....and the response will be, what? Lie about this? Misdirect to some other narrow focus and try to pidgeon-hole me in the moved goalpost? Demand "proof" that he did anything "illegal" (knowing full well that the founders did not require impeachment to be only for crimes found in the U.S. Code)?



    What Trumpists do not understand is that they are the only people who act like Trumpist lies make sense. Trump lost all his other voters. There are a good number of people who might never vote for a Democrat but don't care about the kind of stupid bull**** you spew 24/7 in defense of Trump.

    He did it. You know it. And you know that we all that you know it.

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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    I genuinely worry about the future course of America. There was plenty of reason to worry before. Perhaps it was always going to go the same way. This might speed it up though.


    How do things simmer down after this? What Trump's defenders are doing is almost literally barging into our houses, taking a steaming dump right on the center of any entryway rug we might have, raiding the fridge, and kicking our pet(s). Then saying we made them do it.
    They are tribal and facts, evidence and common sense are attacking their tribal leader. Their knee-jerk response is to huddle around their leader.
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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    In the days of my misspent youth I used to order LBs of weed as nightcrawlers...
    I had this friend who'd call me and say "dude, you want a pizza?"

    Fair enough. But one time he said "dude, I'm in the supermarket. Do you want some broccoli?".

    /facepalm
    Zelensky: [. . .] We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

    Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though [. . . ]

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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    Burying the lede with people connected to this actively watching the US ambassador to Ukraine. And talking about some kind of action. I think they wanted to support the idea there was an active threat against her to get her out faster.

    https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...attachment.pdf
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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    A number of texts insinuate that they we’re going hire people to kill her and that’s consistent with testimony about her needing to be on the next plane out.
    Oh my God. There's going to be a reckoning.







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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Well, if you read the 38 pages (partial pages with a few blanks) you'll see that only 2016 is discussed. Rudy was obviously on the hunt to figure out Ukrainian sources of assistance to Clinton....like he's been saying all along.
    as i said these people are not interested in facts.
    they cry and whine about honesty but do not know what the word means.

    typical leftist.
    everything that schiff released is not whole and out of context.

    there is no way to really know what went on as usual lying schiff touched it before anyone else and was removing and deleting and with holding critical information that would expose him for the liar he is.
    facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    The jury of her peers fellow is here, everyone.

    Scatter!



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    Re: Giuliani requested meeting with Ukraine president, new Trump impeachment evidence shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Well there you go. Finally proof of 2020 campaign violations. It’s totally illegal for the president to communicate with foreign leaders during a campaign, pursuant to a campaign or on behalf of another candidate during his lame duck term.
    In fact, it’s illegal to communicate with foreigners period.

    Or something like that.
    No, it is a violation of election law to have a foreign power to investigate your political opponent, as a 'favor', and then immediately withhold aid 90 minutes after asking that favor.
    No one needs a war more than a politician who is being impeached

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