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    Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    Having completely failed to confront Russian hacking, let alone deter it, Trump has tacitly invited more of it. And now, having already succeeded in handing him the election in 2016, Russians are following from the same playbook to get him re-elected this year.

    With President Trump facing an impeachment trial over his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, Russian military hackers have been boring into the Ukrainian gas company at the center of the affair, according to security experts.

    The hacking attempts against Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company on whose board Hunter Biden served, began in early November, as talk of the Bidens, Ukraine and impeachment was dominating the news in the United States.

    It is not yet clear what the hackers found, or precisely what they were searching for. But the experts say the timing and scale of the attacks suggest that the Russians could be searching for potentially embarrassing material on the Bidens — the same kind of information that Mr. Trump wanted from Ukraine when he pressed for an investigation of the Bidens and Burisma, setting off a chain of events that led to his impeachment.

    The Russian tactics are strikingly similar to what American intelligence agencies say was Russia’s hacking of emails from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman and the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 presidential campaign. In that case, once they had the emails, the Russians used trolls to spread and spin the material, and built an echo chamber to widen its effect.
    Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment - The New York Times
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    Re: Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Having completely failed to confront Russian hacking, let alone deter it, Trump has tacitly invited more of it. And now, having already succeeded in handing him the election in 2016, Russians are following the same playbook to get him re-elected in 2016.



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    Re: Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    Joyce Alene makes a crucial point:

    "It's important to be savvy consumers of news here, especially on the forensic side of the equation. First will be the strength of the attribution of the hack to Russian GRU. And, if anything derogatory on the Bidens is produced, there will be significant issues of authentication."

    In other words, since a hostile foreign adversary is the one hacking a Presidential candidate and will therefore be the one to release information considered damaging to the Biden, one would have to be cautious when determining if that information hasn't been altered first.

    And in light of that, will news outlets have learned their lessons from 2016, or will they rush to publish unverified smear claims in order to be the first to get a scoop?

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    Re: Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    WHOA!
    Yup. We knew this was going to happen again; it just wasn't clear what form it would take.

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    Re: Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    And I'm sure trump in no way requested this...

    When will people understand with trump all roads lead to Putin???

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    Re: Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    And I'm sure trump in no way requested this...

    When will people understand with trump all roads lead to Putin???
    He didn't have to. Railroading everybody who tried to stop it or warn us about it was sufficient. And taking Putin's side over our intelligence community when he was in Helsinki sort of drives the point home. Oh, and there's that whole extorting Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden, and publicly asking China to investigate Biden. It's a bit of a pattern is all I'm saying.

    Preet Bahrara makes an apt prediction:

    "Now cue Trump publicly asking for release of material hacked by Russia."

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    Re: Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    Now the cultists will come on celebrating that Russia is getting to the bottom of the "crooked Bidens"...

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    Re: Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    Now the cultists will come on celebrating that Russia is getting to the bottom of the "crooked Bidens"...
    What I've always found interesting is that Republicans won't stuff ballot boxes. In their minds, that constitutes an unforgivable form of election cheating. Even ballot harvesting was a bridge too far. Every other form of cheating, however, is fair game. Rationalization is a powerful thing.

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    Re: Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    My gas provider is sticking it to me big time this year and I'm sure Putin has something to do with it. Everything that's going wrong in my life can be traced directly back to Putin, Obama and Hillary.

    /case closed

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    Re: Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmiwinx View Post
    My gas provider is sticking it to me big time this year and I'm sure Putin has something to do with it. Everything that's going wrong in my life can be traced directly back to Putin, Obama and Hillary.

    /case closed
    Look guys, it's stupid diversionary crap!
    Zelensky: [. . .] We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

    Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though [. . . ]

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