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Pelosi: House will move to transmit impeachment articles next week

Chomsky said:
Yes, they are! The House is apportioned by "proportional representation", as specified by Article One. Which is why it's often called "The Peoples' House", and Senate in turn is called "The States' House".

Technically, 'no'. Trump was not elected by "the people", but rather by the Electoral College - as can be seen by it over-riding the popular (People's) vote. In fact, this Electoral College effect is playing a large part in the country's unrest. And I fear it may occur again in 2020, really setting things off.

Our founders specified:

1] House represents the People
2] Senate represent the States
3] President works for both, via Congress

And right now, the People don't want him.
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LOL. Your post is what is called spin.
 
Might as well get this comedy of errors out of the way.
 
Dittohead not! said:
It reflects the desires of roughly 1/3 of voters who remain steadfastly pro Trump regardless of what he may say or do.
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In what fantasy world did 2/3 of voters EVER support Donald Trump?
 
Carleen said:
So did Mitch. He went from dismissal to now considering calling witnesses.
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Not much of a cave, if you ask me.

Senator Mitch McConnell said today if the Senate impeachment trial — set to begin next week — takes up witnesses, it won’t just be ones Democrats want appearing to answer questions.

McConnell said today, “We’ll be dealing with the witness issue at the appropriate time in to the trial. It’s certainly appropriate to point out that both sides would want to call witnesses that they wanted to hear from. So when you get to that issue, I can’t imagine that only the witnesses that our Democratic colleagues would want to call would be called.”

Mitch McConnell: We Wouldn't Only Call Dem Witnesses
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I hope Schiffty, Hunter, Ciaramella and a bunch of other have cleared their calendars.
 
ludin said:
Is not a friggen crime. past presidents have done favors for other countries.
we have done favors for countries.

if you want to go with that standard every president in the history should have been impeached.
asking for a favor is not an impeachment qualifying discussion.

also there is no mention as to what the favor is. so assuming that it is a crime is simply called speculation.
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Favors for other countries, not personal favors for presidential elections...
 
trixare4kids said:
Pelosi: House will move to transmit impeachment articles next week | Fox News

Yesterday, she pronounced she'll send them over when she's "ready". Wonder what suddenly made Nancy ready? Sounds like pressure from those in her own party convinced her that she had better stop stalling, crap on the pot or get off!
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You have to give them time to organize the parade they are going to have while carrying their precious articles of impeachment over to the senate.
It was such a solemn event for congress that they may be carrying the papers over in a coffin.

I have to admit that delaying the transfer has the entire country sitting on edge for the next season to start.
 
charliebrown said:
You have to give them time to organize the parade they are going to have while carrying their precious articles of impeachment over to the senate.
It was such a solemn event for congress that they may be carrying the papers over in a coffin.

I have to admit that delaying the transfer has the entire country sitting on edge for the next season to start.
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It had the desired effect of bringing the attention to the people that the Senate had every intention of making the trial a cover up.

That is why 71% of Americans not want witnesses.

Makes it pretty hard to run the sham trial they planned...
 
GDViking said:
It had the desired effect of bringing the attention to the people that the Senate had every intention of making the trial a cover up.

That is why 71% of Americans not want witnesses.

Makes it pretty hard to run the sham trial they planned...
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I hope so.
 
Mycroft said:
Not much of a cave, if you ask me.



I hope Schiffty, Hunter, Ciaramella and a bunch of other have cleared their calendars.
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I didn’t ask you. I don’t think this will be a cut and dried as there are a few republicans who want witnesses. Remember when McConnell said he was backed 100% by the republicans in the senate? Any way I look forward to it regardless of the outcome.
 
Moon said:
I’d read that the Senate was looking to move forward with the trial next week, articles or no. I think Pelosi got as much mileage out of her bit if theater as she was ever going to get, which isn’t much. It was a dumb ploy to begin with and really discounted the seriousness she pretended the process had.
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they would have tremendous difficulty moving forward with no articles to have a trial on.
 
The Senate job is to put the case to trial, not clean up Pelosi's mess. Call the same witness Nancy did and call it a day.

-VySky
 
Carleen said:
I didn’t ask you. I don’t think this will be a cut and dried as there are a few republicans who want witnesses. Remember when McConnell said he was backed 100% by the republicans in the senate? Any way I look forward to it regardless of the outcome.
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Don't expect any great revelations.

This will be another dog and pony show with a predetermined outcome. It's already scripted.
 
TomFitz said:
In what fantasy world did 2/3 of voters EVER support Donald Trump?
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No, I don't think so. Support still hovers around 1/3. The thing is, those voters can't be swayed regardless of what Trump may say or do.
 
GDViking said:
Favors for other countries, not personal favors for presidential elections...
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since that wasn't done you don't have anything to worry about.
not that you care about honesty or anything else.
 
Carleen said:
I didn’t ask you. I don’t think this will be a cut and dried as there are a few republicans who want witnesses. Remember when McConnell said he was backed 100% by the republicans in the senate? Any way I look forward to it regardless of the outcome.
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Seriously!

McConnell moved to start a trial without the articles being transmitted.

There is no provision or precident law regarding handling of the Impeachment Articles, or whether the Senate could proceed without them.

So, it was always a risky play.

It rocked McConnell back on his heels, too. Especially after he got over his skis by declaring his open bias.

Contrary to our right wing friend’s assertion, Pelosi held her votes.

She “caved in”, because she didn’t have much of a leg to stand on. One supposes that they could have kicked the matter to the courts, but running the clock out in court has always been Trump’s principal strategy.

Some pundits opine that the interim over Christmas allowed the idea to sink in. Trump is clearly guilty, and is essentially daring the nation to do something about it.

Whether that has sunk in really remains to be seen.

But McConnell could not hold his votes.

He clearly does not have the votes for the outright dismissal that Trump is demanding, and he does not have the votes to prevent witnesses and documents either.

He has already said so.

The Republican leadership in the Senate is stuck with defending thier leader, who is obviously and belligerently guilty. They have to defend a man they do not trust, like, or have any real faith in.

As the evidence continues to pile up by the day.

Really, the only question that remained by last week was whether the Senate was going to do its job, or leave it up to the voters.

Hanging over that is the ongoing concern over whether how this incompetent Administration would handle a real foreign policy crisis.

Right on cue, we got one.

The evidence continues to cascade out.

The Republicans are on Trump TV whining about “trashing the process”.

They’re stuck. The evidence can be presented in the Senate. Even if it isn’t, the jurors (Senators) will read about it in the Post or the Times.

So, the evidence and the witnesses will be on the table.
 
TomFitz said:
Seriously!

McConnell moved to start a trial without the articles being transmitted.

There is no provision or precident law regarding handling of the Impeachment Articles, or whether the Senate could proceed without them.

So, it was always a risky play.

It rocked McConnell back on his heels, too. Especially after he got over his skis by declaring his open bias.

Contrary to our right wing friend’s assertion, Pelosi held her votes.

She “caved in”, because she didn’t have much of a leg to stand on. One supposes that they could have kicked the matter to the courts, but running the clock out in court has always been Trump’s principal strategy.

Some pundits opine that the interim over Christmas allowed the idea to sink in. Trump is clearly guilty, and is essentially daring the nation to do something about it.

Whether that has sunk in really remains to be seen.

But McConnell could not hold his votes.

He clearly does not have the votes for the outright dismissal that Trump is demanding, and he does not have the votes to prevent witnesses and documents either.

He has already said so.

The Republican leadership in the Senate is stuck with defending thier leader, who is obviously and belligerently guilty. They have to defend a man they do not trust, like, or have any real faith in.

As the evidence continues to pile up by the day.

Really, the only question that remained by last week was whether the Senate was going to do its job, or leave it up to the voters.

Hanging over that is the ongoing concern over whether how this incompetent Administration would handle a real foreign policy crisis.

Right on cue, we got one.

The evidence continues to cascade out.

The Republicans are on Trump TV whining about “trashing the process”.

They’re stuck. The evidence can be presented in the Senate. Even if it isn’t, the jurors (Senators) will read about it in the Post or the Times.

So, the evidence and the witnesses will be on the table.
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I hope you are right.
 
In retrospect, Pelosi's decision to delay sending the articles to the Senate looks positively inspired.
 
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