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[W:104:1192]Iran state TV: Tehran fires at Iraqi base housing US troops

Re: [W:104]Iran state TV: Tehran fires at Iraqi base housing US troops

So what exactly do you call Syria and Libya. Or what we were doing in Africa. Oh let me guess. Those don't count.

Or going back into Iraq. Or Yemen. Or heck - if you count Congressional Votes - Iraq the First time and Afghanistan.

Or the Balkans, Vietnam....
 
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Iranian foreign minister tweets that attack was "proportionate" and in "self-defense"- they are already backing down. They apparently fired a dozen missiles at nothing, taking care of not killing anybody, and they are saying that's their retaliation.

If Trump wisely doesn't do anything, this thankfully could be over.

Trump shouldn't mock them and force their hand. He should let them appease their domestic protesters by appearing to have attacked us (when they ultimately didn't).

But I'm not too hopeful that Trump will keep his small fingers off his smartphone's keyboard.

Iran blinked. Trump should mock them and talk ****, at the least.
 
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Most are weapons systems advisors, not "mercenaries". They are working for their companies who have contracted to sell our military or the Iraqi military on equipment their company sells. Remember when the Russia-aligned Ukrainians shot down an airliner? The missile system used is a very complex system and, while the Separatists were in control of the missile system, there was at least one Russian "tech adviser" there to teach and train. IIRC, the tech said "no so fast" when they wanted to shoot the aircraft overhead but they ignored him.

Same thing for our advisers in Iraq. Again, not mercenaries.

Mercenaries tend to be defined as doing what would ordinarily be done by an military organization be it shooting, technical or the logistical side, but paid and typically organized as a separate entity, most likely a private one. The term contractor or private military contractor (PMC) or mercenary are pretty interchangeable. Technical advisors or technicians that do what is not normally done in the military are usually called technicians or advisors.
 
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Well, either the Iranians were aiming to miss, or the Russian stuff is ****.


My bet is on they were aiming to miss.

They didn't miss previously when they hit the Saudis' refinery.
 
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Of that there's no debate, the question is whether killing him and announcing it was the smart thing to do considering the much larger blowback that it would cause. Had he been taken out without the bluster, the Iranians would have suspected anyway, but making a spectacle of it forced an escalation.

Sure it was.
 
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Iran blinked. Trump should mock them and talk ****, at the least.

Blinked? They just called your bluff. So much for a “proxy attack”. Iran just shoved it right back down your throats.
 
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You can draw a straight line from Trump's decisions as Commander in Chief to this war. He is wholly culpable for this.

What war? Did I miss where congress used their powers to declare war on Iran?

Stop with the childish war mongering. It doesn't help you score points for your progressive team.
 
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Well, either the Iranians were aiming to miss, or the Russian stuff is ****.

Probably user error like Hamas shooting rockets from Gaza into Israel; half-trained fanatics getting by with more gusto than brains. That's given the rockets are being launched from inside Iraq. If from Iran, it might either way.
 
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Sure it was.

How so? Does this assessment also come from the same brain trust which claimed the attack of 52 historic sites which the Pentagon had to then contradict?
 
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Hell yeah he was all contractors are powered by blood and paid in oil, didn't you taste the malice in that sandwhich or are you one of those bury their head in the sand while stuffing their face kind of people!

Thanks - this is one of the best demonstrations of Poe's law that I have seen in quite a while :)
 
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Wouldn’t have happened if Trump didn’t cancel the nuclear deal and impose harsh sanctions.

Iran never killed U.S. when Obama was in office.

Wow. You really are horribly informed. First you think the middle east was stable until Trump and now you think Iran was killing US soldiers in Iraq back during OIF due to Trump canceling the nuclear deal. So what you think Iran's leadership can tell the future.

TDS really effects some peoples ability to think.
 
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U.S. troops murdered by Iran. Democrats refuse to authorize force to retaliate. How do you think that's going to sell at the ballot box?

Whoops. No casualties. Iran gave Trump an off ramp.

Trump tried to start a war...oh look over there!!!!
 
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The correct response to this, given the lack of American casualties, is "nothing at all."

We don't even acknowledge that it happened. Just GRIN into the camera and waggle your eyebrows. Dude can sleep with one eye open for the next few weeks.
 
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Or it may embolden Trump-Pompeo??

The Iranians are scared ****less. They've never had a U.S president stand up to them.
 
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Or we could have given a proportional response to a riot that killed one bloodsucking mercenary instead of massively escalating by killing the head of Iranian Special Forces.

You think that is all that the note dead general did.

It's funny having conversations with people who have no idea what goes on the world around them.

But then your blood sucking mercenary comment proved that nothing you say should be taken seriously.
 
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Trump has tweeted that "all is well." Relatively restrained tweet, just praised the American military. So far so good. I hope this is it.

Like I said in my first participation here I always assumed the Iranians would huff and puff but do little. Apparently that's exactly what they did tonight so escalation is not a given.

At one point there were tweeter rumors of 20 American casualties which would have been a full-blown disaster and would almost certainly lead to war.

So I'm relieved.
 
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Iranian foreign minister tweets that attack was "proportionate" and in "self-defense"- they are already backing down. They apparently fired a dozen missiles at nothing, taking care of not killing anybody, and they are saying that's their retaliation.

If Trump wisely doesn't do anything, this thankfully could be over.

Trump shouldn't mock them and force their hand. He should let them appease their domestic protesters by appearing to have attacked us (when they ultimately didn't).

But I'm not too hopeful that Trump will keep his small fingers off his smartphone's keyboard.
Starting to sound like it.
 
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Whoops. No casualties. Iran gave Trump an off ramp.

Trump tried to start a war...oh look over there!!!!

The Iranians backed down. They know they don't want this.
 
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Thanks - this is one of the best demonstrations of Poe's law that I have seen in quite a while :)

I bet next you will claim politicians are people and not really evil beings who feed on the souls of children, the politicians are putting chemicals in the water turning iranians gay and hostile!

oh yeah if you want a serious laugh listen to alex jones!
 
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What war? Did I miss where congress used their powers to declare war on Iran?

Stop with the childish war mongering. It doesn't help you score points for your progressive team.

Murdering the leadership of another government is an act of war. The idea you would accuse me of war mongering, while supporting a war monger is absurd. Not sure if your post is just dishonesty or a weird attempt at comedy.
 
Re: [W:104]Iran state TV: Tehran fires at Iraqi base housing US troops

Trump has tweeted that "all is well." Relatively restrained tweet, just praised the American military. So far so good. I hope this is it.

Like I said in my first participation here I always assumed the Iranians would huff and puff but do little. Apparently that's exactly what they did tonight so escalation is not a given.

At one point there were tweeter rumors of 20 American casualties which would have been a full-blown disaster and would almost certainly lead to war.

So I'm relieved.

Holy crap. Trump might actually do the smart thing.
 
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Godammit! Just found out. The S.O.B started a freaken war!

Impeached, and the country at war. Don't say we didn't warn you.

Just started a freaken war? Where have you been? We have been putting up with countless number of attacks on our troops over the past months by Iranian proxies not just in Syria and Iraq. Today it was revealed Iran has been behind attacks on our troops in Afghanistan and Yemen.

Trump was not around when all these conflicts began. They occurred from previous administrations. But thanks to Obama turning over mega dollars to Iran in the middle of the night has provided them with big BUCKS to continue their terrorist activities. Thanks Obama!


Right now it is quiet in Iraq and the reports are there are no reported American casualties and 10 out of 14 missiles hit their targets.

It was just and right for the U.S. to take out Soleimani and his Hezbollah side kick as they were completely behind the escalated attacks against our troops in Iraq, Syria, and other places.

Nobody wants war but if Iran wants to continue this **** then if I were someone who works at the Iranian oil refineries at this time would be a good time to take a vacation.
The WH has been very measured in its responses. He is not going to make any comments tonight but is waiting for the full assessment. There will be a response to Iran's aggression. Get a grip.
 
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The Iranians are scared ****less. They've never had a U.S president stand up to them.

What about Ronnie?
 
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I think this is gonna end up being a very positive week for President Trump! He warned Iran that if any American was killed there would be consequences. He followed through with killing Solemani. As an American I feel very secure that this President will do what he has to to protect this country. I can only imagine what it would be like if one of the Democratic candidates were in office. The economy is hopping and the world knows not to mess with the US. No more status quo. No more bribing world leaders to leave us alone. It's simple. The world's super power is flexing it's muscle once again.
 
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