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[W:104:1192]Iran state TV: Tehran fires at Iraqi base housing US troops

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Cannot address the points, actually believes "I know yours is but what is mine?" is a gotcha. Runs away after saying only that.

:lol:


I'm sorry (for humanity) that you don't know what a reductio ad absurdum is, thus why it is actually a very good way of demonstrating that someone has said something quite idiotically. Do feel free to review. I can give you an undeserved 100th chance to actually make an argument worth pissing on, were it on fire.
LOL, sure. And trying to counter my comment on what comprises a battlefield by some silly argument about gun death in the US being a "battlefield" is definitely noe an "reduction ad absurdum". :roll:
 
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I pity him when he finds out that there was a typo in the Koran, and it's not 72 virgins. It's one 72-year-old virgin.

Or he finds out that the virgins all laugh at him, on account of he's "that guy" and got himself X'ed out by his own leaders.
 
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LOL, sure. And trying to counter my comment on what comprises a battlefield by some silly argument about gun death in the US being a "battlefield" is definitely noe an "reduction ad absurdum". :roll:

I thank you for proving my expectation that dishonesty so extreme the stupidity competes with the smugness would fill any response.
 
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I pity him when he finds out that there was a typo in the Koran, and it's not 72 virgins. It's one 72-year-old virgin.

Or (old joke, but I like it) 72 Virginians. :mrgreen:
 
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Then you trotted out other conspiracy theories. LOL
If you are going to accuse me of something, be specific. The idea that a U.S. warship shot down an Iranian passenger jet was either deliberate or gross negligence is hardly a conspiracy theory. If you have something else in your mind, spill it.
 
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Whomever fired that missile had to have been really pissed off, given what's going to happen to him.

Possibly. it depends upon why the airline was singled out of the dozen or so in flight.

Saddam said he executed the pilot who fired two Exocets into the USS Stark killing 37 sailors and wounding/maiming 21 sailors but, like many things with Saddam, it was a lie.
 
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Iran has license to build nuclear weapons.

Iran is a party to the NPT treaty which prohibits them from building nuclear weapons.
 
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Actually, the president's tweet tonight was sensibly measured.

Which was shocking. He waited until the next day to give a messed up, incoherent speech full of slurring and stuttering. The man is a mess, and I don’t know how people like you can support him without question.
 
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So, Clara, are you know going to declare the Iranians purposefully shot down a Ukrainian 737 or will you defend them and say it was a "tragic accident"?

Trudeau and Johnson say they have intelligence Iran shot down Ukrainian airliner - CNNPolitics
Canada and Britain's leaders said Thursday that they have intelligence a Ukrainian airliner was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile.

"This may have been unintentional," Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said at a press conference in Ottawa.
"There is now a body of information that the flight was shot down by an Iranian Surface to Air Missile. This may well have been unintentional. We are working closely with Canada and our international partners and there now needs to be a full, transparent investigation," British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said in a statement.

...A US official familiar with the intelligence said the plane was shot down by two Russian made SA-15 surface to air missiles. The US saw Iranian radar signals lock onto the jetliner, before it was shot down.


Your major error is no one, not Iran, not the US, no one is saying they purposefully shot down the plane.
Do you have evidence they did it on purpose?
Did we intentionally shoot down the Iranian airliner in 88?
 
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I don’t know how people like you can support him without question.

easy, he is the second coming compared to Green New Deal Great Communist Depression and Revolution. Do you understand??
 
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Your major error is no one, not Iran, not the US, no one is saying they purposefully shot down the plane.
Do you have evidence they did it on purpose?
Did we intentionally shoot down the Iranian airliner in 88?

Ummm.....it was an accidental mistargeting but not an accidental shooting: They saw it, they aimed and fired.

Yes, we did. The caveat being we didn't know it was an airliner. We thought it was an Iranian F-14 descending to attack.
 
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Ummm.....it was an accidental mistargeting but not an accidental shooting: They saw it, they aimed and fired.

Yes, we did. The caveat being we didn't know it was an airliner. We thought it was an Iranian F-14 descending to attack.

no saying they purposefully did it means that they intentionally targeted the plane...for all we know the plane got in the way of them being launched and was not even part of the target.
 
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no saying they purposefully did it means that they intentionally targeted the plane...for all we know the plane got in the way of them being launched and was not even part of the target.

They did intentionally target the plane. It's not like the missile just went off by itself. The problem was the same as with the Vincennes: misidentification.

Sorry, Clara, but that's not how those missiles work.
 
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They did intentionally target the plane. It's not like the missile just went off by itself. The problem was the same as with the Vincennes: misidentification.

Sorry, Clara, but that's not how those missiles work.

you have yet to prove they purposefully were targeting a plane even, much less targeting a passenger airliner on purpose
 
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you have yet to prove they purposefully were targeting a plane even, much less targeting a passenger airliner on purpose

Fine. You are free to believe the USS Vincennes intentionally shot down an airliner and that the Iranians did not. I disagree. I think both were simply tragedies caused by misidentification AKA "Friendly Fire". Good Luck.
 
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They'd better be using drones, though. Iran is bristling with SAMs these days.

Which are not all that great. Iraq in 1990 and 2003 had some of the most dense air defense networks in the world, and those did no good against the US attacks on them.
 
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Their ain't gonna be no war. The US will lob some missiles at Iran until they scream uncle! Or Iran's economy implodes. Or the people overthrow the Iranian government.

We do not have to do much to do that, their economy is already imploding. It's inflation rate is already over 35%,and even though "experts" have been claiming for over a year now it will reduce "soon", it has yet to show any sign of slowing at this time.

However, it is down from the peak of 2018 where it hit almost 400%.

And the government has been tightly controlling the information about the growing unrest they have been going through for almost a decade now.
 
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