• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Pelosi says Trump carried out strike on Iranian commander without authorization and she wants detail

Beside the retaliation missile strikes yesterday, when has Iran attacked us?

How did they retaliate when we shot down their airliner back in the 80's?

Just to be clear, are you suggesting the Iran is not a sponsor, or assists in, international terrorism? Or are you just looking for information readily available with a quick Google search?
 
No one is saying that they are a friendly nation. We still do not have a right to assasinate members of their government.

We do if they are killing our people.
 
If Donald Trump took a gun and shot Putin in the head, I think that many here would claim that this was just another plot put in place by Putin to be undertaken by his puppet Trump.
Nah, all the stuff Trump "does for Putin" is beneficial to Putin.

I mean maybe if in that hypothetical Putin wasn't really dead and Trump was just helping him fake his own death for some reason....

:2razz:
 
What is it with Trump supporters trying to change what is said to hyperbolic nonsense? This isnt support for Iran. Its caution against doing stupid illegal actions that can cost us credibility and allies, while also uniting an enemy country that was already hostile but was previously fractured against us.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk

Let me ask you a question, why do you support Iran or any other country that supports and authorizes terrorism that promotes open season on Americans? In your world it is illegal to take out someone who even Obama put on the terrorist list in 2011, This seems to be nothing more than another attack on Trump. I thank bot Trump and Obama for taking out terrorists and making us safer. Not sure if you paid any attention to Iran's action or the world reaction to Trump's action but Iran show a few missiles in the desert and now seem to have backed off. Our enemies know one thing and one thing only, strength and Trump showed it. Rather than appease Iran with 100 billion in aid, Trump sent a multi million dollar missile into the known area of a terrorist and took him out sending a strong message that this President will protect American lives.

No one is changing the subject as you are trying to make this illegal and it isn't.
 
I don't support Iran

Why do you support Iran?

I don't support Iran

For the fifth time, why do you support Iran?
 
Just to be clear, are you suggesting the Iran is not a sponsor, or assists in, international terrorism? Or are you just looking for information readily available with a quick Google search?

I seldom use Google.

I'm asking when did Iran last attack us, besides in retaliation the other day. Apparently you prefer not to answer that question, and I speculate that the accurate answer to that question makes you uncomfortable.

Is defending one's country or one's region from invading nations an act of terror?

The largest state practitioners of terrorism are Israel and the United States. Sad, but true.

Defending one's country from invading foreigners is not terrorism, it is self defense.
 
There is nothing wrong with me but you certainly seem to have a problem driven purely by hatred and ignorance of the Constitution. Calling me a fool is typical leftwing rhetoric when you cannot refute the logic and common sense. Trump and Obama both did their jobs in getting terrorists who attacked this country. Maybe one of these days you will realize what a fool the left has made out of you

What logic and commonsense? You blindly accepted yet another lie by Dear Leader as being fact. As much as he has lied you would think by now logic and commonsense would have informed you of a need to be more discerning and less gullible whenever he makes such statements. Maybe one day you will realize that it was Trump's failed policy with Iran and nuclear agreement policy withdrawal that had directly led us to brink of war.
 
I seldom use Google.
Perhaps you should try it more often.
I'm asking when did Iran last attack us, besides in retaliation the other day. Apparently you prefer not to answer that question, and I speculate that the accurate answer to that question makes you uncomfortable.
Again, are you asking whether the country of Iran has ever attacked the US mainland? I'd say never. However Iran has 'sponsored' terrorism throughout the world. You can Google that for more information.
Is defending one's country or one's region from invading nations an act of terror?
No.
The largest state practitioners of terrorism are Israel and the United States. Sad, but true.
You clearly don't know what the definition of terrorism is. There's another Google opportunity.
Defending one's country from invading foreigners is not terrorism, it is self defense.
Yes, that's right. Well done.
 
What logic and commonsense? You blindly accepted yet another lie by Dear Leader as being fact. As much as he has lied you would think by now logic and commonsense would have informed you of a need to be more discerning and less gullible whenever he makes such statements. Maybe one day you will realize that it was Trump's failed policy with Iran and nuclear agreement policy withdrawal that had directly led us to brink of war.
What 'brink of war'? There has been a war between the Islamists and the democracies for four decades now and it finally shows some sign of slowing down. Perhaps taking out these terrorist leaders, as Trump has done, is doing some good.
 
Let me ask you a question, why do you support Iran or any other country that supports and authorizes terrorism that promotes open season on Americans? In your world it is illegal to take out someone who even Obama put on the terrorist list in 2011, This seems to be nothing more than another attack on Trump. I thank bot Trump and Obama for taking out terrorists and making us safer. Not sure if you paid any attention to Iran's action or the world reaction to Trump's action but Iran show a few missiles in the desert and now seem to have backed off. Our enemies know one thing and one thing only, strength and Trump showed it. Rather than appease Iran with 100 billion in aid, Trump sent a multi million dollar missile into the known area of a terrorist and took him out sending a strong message that this President will protect American lives.

No one is changing the subject as you are trying to make this illegal and it isn't.
Why do you beat your wife? Essentially that is the type of question you are asking here. You demonstrate the problem with many Trump supporters, trying to use hyperbole and changing of peoples arguments to attempt to make them appear to support ridiculous things that none of their arguments show.

I support sanctioning Iran and working to seek a resolution that works to end violence, not cause more so our President can look big and bad.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
 
Do you know what Trump will do if that happens?
More stupid stuff, like killing other Iranian officials or straight up attacking them for some made up bull****. Because that is what Trump does. And will escalate more actions from Iran.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
 
I've asked him what that word means and have yet to actually get any real answer.

leftist love to throw around words but they simply do not understand the definition to the words they use.
when asked for the definition of the word you will never get a response or if you do it is nothing more than a flame.

words like racism, tolerance, inclusiveness have different actual meanings than what they want them to mean.
 
Why do you beat your wife? Essentially that is the type of question you are asking here. You demonstrate the problem with many Trump supporters, trying to use hyperbole and changing of peoples arguments to attempt to make them appear to support ridiculous things that none of their arguments show.

I support sanctioning Iran and working to seek a resolution that works to end violence, not cause more so our President can look big and bad.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
That isn't similar at all. Terrorist get their support from countries like Iran, Americans
Are being killed and apparently until it affects you no military action should happen?

What was the Iranian general doing in Iraq during an attack on our embassy, coincidence?

Hatred is a terrible trait to have, you and Pelosi have. Your TDS is showing

Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
 
Perhaps you should try it more often.
Again, are you asking whether the country of Iran has ever attacked the US mainland? I'd say never. However Iran has 'sponsored' terrorism throughout the world. You can Google that for more information.
No.
You clearly don't know what the definition of terrorism is. There's another Google opportunity.
Yes, that's right. Well done.

Finally, a straight answer! Thank you!

Perhaps you can offer your definition of terrorism/ist?

Knowing the meaning of the word terror in English, and having read part of a speech given by a USMC General years ago, I will offer this paraphrased definition by that General:

Terror is a natural response in humans and other species. Terrorism is the manipulation of that natural response by other humans.

Using that definition, the world is full of terrorists manipulating that natural response. They are most concentrated in governments.
 
That isn't similar at all. Terrorist get their support from countries like Iran, Americans
Are being killed and apparently until it affects you no military action should happen?

What was the Iranian general doing in Iraq during an attack on our embassy, coincidence?

Hatred is a terrible trait to have, you and Pelosi have. Your TDS is showing

Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
Yes it is very similar. I have never expressed support for Iran and believe what they do is awful. I think the General was a horrible person. I am not sad he is dead. I am upset and very concerned about the way it was accomplished because that method can cause more outrage and even better unite Iran against us, leading to further deaths unnecessarily. There are plenty of ways to accomplish goals even those involving disposing of or removing enemies. Bragging about knocking them off without any international call or advocacy against them does not help our country. It makes us look like giant bullies and loses us allies and unites our enemies.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
 
Yes it is very similar. I have never expressed support for Iran and believe what they do is awful. I think the General was a horrible person. I am not sad he is dead. I am upset and very concerned about the way it was accomplished because that method can cause more outrage and even better unite Iran against us, leading to further deaths unnecessarily. There are plenty of ways to accomplish goals even those involving disposing of or removing enemies. Bragging about knocking them off without any international call or advocacy against them does not help our country. It makes us look like giant bullies and loses us allies and unites our enemies.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk

So waiting for the general to die of old age would have been better for you? Why is it you take the side of Iran or any other foreign gov't vs. our own. You don't like the way he was taken out? Why was he in Iraq and when you have a chance to be proactive you take it. Think that Iran wouldn't take a chance to take out Trump if given that opportunity?

Any idea how long sanctions have been in place in Iran? Think about it?
 
Finally, a straight answer! Thank you!

Perhaps you can offer your definition of terrorism/ist?

Knowing the meaning of the word terror in English, and having read part of a speech given by a USMC General years ago, I will offer this paraphrased definition by that General:

Terror is a natural response in humans and other species. Terrorism is the manipulation of that natural response by other humans.

Using that definition, the world is full of terrorists manipulating that natural response. They are most concentrated in governments.
Using that definition the word means nothing and probably explains why this general remains anonymous..

Terrorism is "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims".
 
What 'brink of war'? There has been a war between the Islamists and the democracies for four decades now and it finally shows some sign of slowing down. Perhaps taking out these terrorist leaders, as Trump has done, is doing some good.

What brink of war? Where you have been? Just wake up or something? Nothing has been slowed down since Trump's unilateral withdrawal from the nuclear agreement and max pressure campaign. To contrary it has been ratcheting upwards.
 
What brink of war? Where you have been? Just wake up or something? Nothing has been slowed down since Trump's unilateral withdrawal from the nuclear agreement and max pressure campaign. To contrary it has been ratcheting upwards.
And there is no more genocide, no more industrial scale rapes, and things have settled down a great deal. And did you know that the nuclear deal did not allow proper checks? And that it had an expiration date?

The fact is that Trump has played Iran perfectly and is all going the way he and Pompeo want.
 
More stupid stuff, like killing other Iranian officials or straight up attacking them for some made up bull****. Because that is what Trump does. And will escalate more actions from Iran.
The Iranian leadership thinks the same. That's the point.
 
I don’t think Trump thought about it that much. He was presented with a military option by the Pentagon and he decided to do it. There isn’t any strategic thinking with this President beyond his own personal interests.

Clueless post, you haven't got a shred of proof about anything.
 
I'm sure they'll be willing to share that intel and all decision-related materials leading up to the strike with appropriate House committees. /s



Also, How long until we until find out Trump was fed intel by Putin on this directly during his Christmas phone call? Putin is in the middle of selling weapons to Iran and meddling in the affairs of Ukraine...

Pelosi says Trump carried out strike on Iranian commander without authorization and she wants details

~~~~~~
FLASHBACK: In 2011, Pelosi Says Obama “Did Not Need Authorization” To Use Force In Libya.
 
Back
Top Bottom