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Iraqi TV Reports Strike Kills Powerful Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander

This is actually proof that Iran needs a nuclear weapon. Someone said Putin can’t be attacked because a nuclear power. Iranians get assassinated with impunity because they’re not a nuclear power. Good luck convincing Kim that NK needs to surrender their weapons.
 
This is actually proof that Iran needs a nuclear weapon. Someone said Putin can’t be attacked because a nuclear power. Iranians get assassinated with impunity because they’re not a nuclear power. Good luck convincing Kim that NK needs to surrender their weapons.

You can't be serious.
 
Nope, you have been told that because it is your own nation that on so many occasions is the one that resorts to brute force in contravention of laws they are , in truly hypocritical fashion , often citing themselves
Tell us how this latest episode started? Make sure you are correct.
 
Are you sure about this? Less than 24 hours have passed.

I thought the same last week too, and a month before it, and a year before that. I don't think things will change in the next several hours.
 
This is actually proof that Iran needs a nuclear weapon. Someone said Putin can’t be attacked because a nuclear power. Iranians get assassinated with impunity because they’re not a nuclear power. Good luck convincing Kim that NK needs to surrender their weapons.


You can't be serious.

I want to be somewhat generous, to say that I think that Dans La Lune is speaking as to why Iran would want a nuclear weapon. I do not think he is actually advocating for nuclear proliferation.

But I could be wrong. Are you for nuclear proliferation and advocate for authoritarian countries like Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, Dans La Lune? Perhaps every country on Earth should possess nuclear weapons in order to prevent any direct military conflicts against one another?
 
Oh, I doubt that Iran will keep this confined only to Iraq. Iran could strike anywhere at any US asset. That includes shipping in the Gulf, the Suez canal, and so on. Then we'll react to that, and so on and so on. Hopefully it won't come to this, but I don't see Iran taking this lightly.
I suppose that's a reason to tread throughout the world like mice do afraid of house cats.
 
Yes, the United States military striking the head of a violent and oppressive terrorist organization violently opposed to the United States and that keeps its boot on the neck of the Iranian people for the Ayatollahs should be considered the moral and legal equivalent of allowing U.S.-backed death squads to rape and murder United States citizens.

Like the US leaderships/miltary planners care about the Iranian people. They supported the coup that ousted Mossedegh and brought in the torturous regime of the Shah with his notorious Savak thugs.

Just look at the state of Iraq and try to convince any rerasonable person that in the last 3 decades the US governments have cared about their lives.

The US is and always has been ok with people abusing/violating their own as long as they are deemed to be in the best interests of the US as they percieve them.

Don't even talk of morals or legality in this context
 
You already have them but have been conditioned to see your own state terrorism as " counter terrorism/humanitarian intervention/democracy promotion/anti communism war "............ the brain washing goes something like when they do it ( insert any national enemy state/group ) it is terrorism when we do it it is, because we are always the good guys ,counter terrorism

In fact the rapaciousness of the American empire makes for any nation that wants to tread itsown independent path in the world all the more likely to want to acquire them.

Recall it was the US that scuppered the Iran Nuclear Deal and followed up with economic terrorism in the form of sanctions that have had a devastating effect on the ordinary folk of Iran ( sanctions always do )
unless of course your nation is attacked then we are the first ones people call. Spare me the imbecilic left rants. We had one American killed then our embassy is attacked. There is no doubt this guy needed to go. I hope that got everyone's attention. We can take you out in the front seat or the back seat if you plot to kill Americans.
 
This is actually proof that Iran needs a nuclear weapon. Someone said Putin can’t be attacked because a nuclear power. Iranians get assassinated with impunity because they’re not a nuclear power. Good luck convincing Kim that NK needs to surrender their weapons.
No this is proof if how dumb some of those on the left actually are.
 
Tell us how this latest episode started? Make sure you are correct.

You don't get top pick " the start " that suits you.

How about we look at US/Iranain relations since say the 1950's and follow that trail that leads right up to this event. If you do you will see that the pattern is the US trying to foist onto the Iranian people leaderships that they want to see in place. It's the very same thing today and it is reflecting in the posts of you and other war mongers who have been conditioned to believe that your own state terrorists are always the good guys trying to do good in a bad world. That your leaders actually care about the peoples of other countries.........the level of self deception needed to support that rubbish beggars belief imo but obviously has currency here with many people
 
Like the US leaderships/miltary planners care about the Iranian people. They supported the coup that ousted Mossedegh and brought in the torturous regime of the Shah with his notorious Savak thugs.

Just look at the state of Iraq and try to convince any rerasonable person that in the last 3 decades the US governments have cared about their lives.

The US is and always has been ok with people abusing/violating their own as long as they are deemed to be in the best interests of the US as they percieve them.

Don't even talk of morals or legality in this context

Mossadegh was overthrown under the auspices of the Eisenhower administration, and the overthrow of Mossadegh in Great Britain and the United States are long dead. As is the Soviet Union, which was the main reason for us engaging in cynical power politics on a global level. I am all for talking about the sins of the past, but they are in the past, and we are not bound inextricably by history.
 
You can't be serious.

Somewhat, yes. Explain to me how else you can prevent targeted assassinations and full scale invasions. Explain it to me. Diplomacy doesn't work. Nuclear agreements with America aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Tell me how a nation protects itself against America, in their own backyard.
 
I thought the same last week too, and a month before it, and a year before that. I don't think things will change in the next several hours.

And if we don't see Iranian reprisal against the United States then I will gladly admit I guessed wrong.
 
You don't get top pick " the start " that suits you.

How about we look at US/Iranain relations since say the 1950's and follow that trail that leads right up to this event. If you do you will see that the pattern is the US trying to foist onto the Iranian people leaderships that they want to see in place. It's the very same thing today and it is reflecting in the posts of you and other war mongers who have been conditioned to believe that your own state terrorists are always the good guys trying to do good in a bad world. That your leaders actually care about the peoples of other countries.........the level of self deception needed to support that rubbish beggars belief imo but obviously has currency here with many people
I figured you wouldn't answer honestly. But hey you lefties keep cheerleading for NK and Iran terrorists ...you are electing Trump to his second term all on your own.
 
It's not rational to continue allowing someone to attack and kill your fellow countrymen.

It is possible to believe *both* that:

(1) Soleimani presented a serious and ongoing threat to national and international security; and

(2) The costs to national and international security of targeting and killing him in a US military operation could far outweigh the benefits.
 
unless of course your nation is attacked then we are the first ones people call. Spare me the imbecilic left rants. We had one American killed then our embassy is attacked. There is no doubt this guy needed to go. I hope that got everyone's attention. We can take you out in the front seat or the back seat if you plot to kill Americans.

You are a prime example of how being a citizen of the worlds hegemon can lead to moral backwardness and the wish to bully/support to bully others. You act as if the US bullying of Iran over the last 70 years has no bearing on events. That it should be allowed to bully it and economically strangle and isolate it with all of the deprevations on the population ( people you are supposed to care so much about recall ) without them having any recourse to retaliate.
 
I figured you wouldn't answer honestly. But hey you lefties keep cheerleading for NK and Iran terrorists ...you are electing Trump to his second term all on your own.

Most terrorism originates with Saudi Islamic ideology, not Iranian. When I say most, I mean virtually all. Iran has been at war with Wahhabism, the very heart of Islamic terrorism. They've been the primary fighters against ISIS. Iran didn't crash planes into the Twin Towers. However, because Iran and Saudi Arabia are engaged in a holy war, and America has chosen the WORST side in that war -- and because Iran refused to be a glorified gas tank for the West -- Iran's military gets labelled as a terrorist organization. It's bull****.
 
Nation building.

Not our land, not our country. There is no "building" to be had.

In this regard, the US is very much the "illegal aliens" of the region. I'm sure you'd be A-okay the USA being conquered and reshaped too if your logic is to be consistent.
 
Mossadegh was overthrown under the auspices of the Eisenhower administration, and the overthrow of Mossadegh in Great Britain and the United States are long dead. As is the Soviet Union, which was the main reason for us engaging in cynical power politics on a global level. I am all for talking about the sins of the past, but they are in the past, and we are not bound inextricably by history.

The Iranian people don’t consider the overthrow of Mossadegh as a past event that has passed over: the sin of that incident has grown steadily worse in the years following the event and that sin has shaped how the Iranian people has come to distrust us. The United States is seen by Iranian as being too interested in meddling with Iran’s domestic affairs.
 
You are a prime example of how being a citizen of the worlds hegemon can lead to moral backwardness and the wish to bully/support to bully others. You act as if the US bullying of Iran over the last 70 years has no bearing on events. That it should be allowed to bully it and economically strangle and isolate it with all of the deprevations on the population ( people you are supposed to care so much about recall ) without them having any recourse to retaliate.

Meanwhile...back in the real world...Iran a terrorist nation attacked and American and our embassy. Nighty nite terrorists. Please keep supporting terrorists...we need the left to shout this at the top of their lungs so every American can see how you all think before the next election. I bet you support NK over Trump as well right?
 
Death to the Iranian regime.

Just gotta do it without killing enough of the younger generation who are basically waiting for the old hard liners to die off, which is the majority, that you turn them on the west like we did with the Shah.
 
Most terrorism originates with Saudi Islamic ideology, not Iranian. When I say most, I mean virtually all. Iran has been at war with Wahhabism, the very heart of Islamic terrorism. They've been the primary fighters against ISIS. Iran didn't crash planes into the Twin Towers. However, because Iran and Saudi Arabia are engaged in a holy war, and America has chosen the WORST side in that war -- and because Iran refused to be a glorified gas tank for the West -- Iran's military gets labelled as a terrorist organization. It's bull****.
Jesus H Christ! Priceless!
 
Meanwhile...back in the real world...Iran a terrorist nation attacked and American and our embassy. Nighty nite terrorists. Please keep supporting terrorists...we need the left to shout this at the top of their lungs so every American can see how you all think before the next election. I bet you support NK over Trump as well right?

Iran didn't come to America's back yard, stoke a war that killed a million Iranians, pick Iran's religious and regional enemy to support, overthrow their democratically elected leader, and break a treaty that was signed and followed in good faith with the international community. America is the bad actor here. And that's a tall order to be a worst actor than the Mullahs in Iran. However, monstrous Republicans are up to the challenge.
 
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