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Boris Johnson and Tories predicted to win 86-seat majority in exit poll

Jake said:
Yes. The racists are taking over temporarily. But I feel that will end with the passing of the older generation. But the older generation will cause much damage in their hatred and anger before they pass.
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You mean the generation that shed their blood to leave you this country. That generation?
 
GreatNews2night said:
I feel sorry for the whole situation because I think that breaking down the European Union (a successful Brexit is just the beginning) plays right into Putin's hand. Next, NATO will break down. I think it's a sad day for Western civilization. But then, one of the pilars of Western civilization is precisely the recognition that via democratic expression, sovereign peoples should be able to define their own destiny.
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How do you figure, GreatNews2night? I would say a pro-Soviet Union, radical socialist and terrorist-sympathizer like Jeremy Corbyn would have been far more damaging to the NATO alliance than someone who simply wants to remove the United Kingdom from the European Union.
 
Would've voted for Corbyn over Boris in a heartbeat. If I could go back and vote in the 2016 election, I would've voted for Hillary in a heartbeat, if I knew having Trump as president would do this (straw that broke the camel's back)
 
This is good news for Britain and the US. Britain won't be saddled with the dead weight in the EU. The US will end up with a strong trading partner. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the rest of the EU to splinter off.

Trump is close to closing on the new NAFTA deal and China deal. A nice deal with Britain would be another feather in his cap.
 
GreatNews2night said:
How naive. The Chinese and the Russians are ruthless. They have been trying to prevail for centuries, and the one power that prevented them from doing this, in the modern world, is the United States (together with our traditional allies). They will do all they can to destabilize America and Western Europe. One day people will remember fondly how the world was a bit better when the United States was the dominant power, because once the Chinese unleash all their greed and cruelty, you'll see what the world will become for everybody who is not Chinese.

Instead of Western civilization getting united to counter it (which is exactly what NATO is about), right wing activists who don't understand the big picture, rejoice when our previously united bloc gets fractured in the name of nationalist interest. That's a recipe for disaster. I don't know how old you are. I'll probably not be around to see the Chinese roll all over us. But if you are significantly younger, you will, and my children and grandchildren will as well, unfortunately.
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Now you've finally made a somewhat logical post, as you've dispensed with the rhetoric about Putin and Russia, and instead focused on the real threat China. But who built China up from a 3rd world, poverty stricken nation 40 years ago, into the world power with the 2nd largest GDP, and a fully nuclear-capable military? Why it was the globalist elites in the USA, Europe, and Israel. The same globalists who are now hated, and who are ultimately responsible for bleeding average Americans, British and Europeans dry.

Brexit voters delighted in striking a blow to the globalists who pull the puppet strings of their government, and the thousands of Eurocrats employed by the EU. Corbyn spoke the absolute truth at an Oxford Union debate, when he said that "international corporations run the government here in the UK. Well they also run the massive bureaucracy that is the EU, and see individual sovereignty, national pride, and strong borders as obstacles to making money. Therefore, they needed to be destroyed, and replaced with some generic, meaningless duty to 'Europeanism'. These are the same people who pay for university studies which proclaim that there's no such thing as uniquely indigenous Swedish people, or indigenous British, etc. They are the enemy that Europe must root out of its midst now, and expunge.
 
A decent man was relentlessly smeared as an anti-Semite. And for some, (not the Trump base) the idea of voting for a bigot is repulsive.


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Also worth noting Farage got his ass handed to him.

Brexit Party wins 0 seats!


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Phys251 said:
Boris Johnson and Tories predicted to win 86-seat majority in exit poll | Politics | The Guardian



Jeremy Corbyn, a democratic socialist, just saw his party suffer the single greatest defeat in decades to a Trump-like demagogue. Liberals on both sides of the Pond should take note.
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Completely the wrong take away and an obvious attempt to twist the narrative in a manner convenient to your personal politics: it's far less about the generalities of Corbyn's soc-dem politics and far more about Brexit (and a generous side of smearing him as an anti-semite). Corbyn tried to placate both Brexiteers and Remainers with a position on Brexit so compromised, half-way and muddled that it satisfied neither (his stance on a referendum being the one major bone held out for the latter camp), which was obviously a recipe for a disaster with Brexit domineering UK politics to the exclusion of virtually all else; with respect to this, not his domestic policy prescriptions on healthcare or education (which were popular), he certainly deserves blame.

Look at what actually happened in the election, which areas went blue (like the famed Red Wall), and why, and it becomes painfully obvious.

In all honesty, the fall of the Dem Blue Wall/rust belt over concerns of economic insecurity is not too dissimilar to the fall of the Labour Red Wall over Brexit in that both had their political outcomes largely pivot on things the center is loathe to acknowledge as responsible.
 
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Winston said:
Also worth noting Farage got his ass handed to him.

Brexit Party wins 0 seats!


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Oh yeah, Farage lost bigly. The Brexit Party won't have any MEPs after the UK leaves the EU! :lamo
 
zimmer said:
You’re right... this is the beginning of the end for the E.U.

Others will leave... but it’s a good thing for the E.U. ...what has been evolving is an Omni-potent EUSSR.

What hopefully evolves is a continent where trade is free and each country is sovereign.

That’s a good thing.

One of the most disgusting aspects of Brexit is it took three years and this election to fulfill the will of the people. Like the arrogant politicians knew better and tried to usurp the will of the people.
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You have no idea about how popular the EU is with mainland EU citizens. I'm going to guess you suggested Le Pen and Wilders were going to win big 3-4 years ago when the Brexit vote first happened.

lemmiwinx said:
I bet Greta Thunberg is getting her bags packed as we speak to make a grand appearance in Londonistan tomorrow blaming it all on climate change.
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Such ignorance, you have no idea what you are saying so you bring Greta Thunberg into a thread she is not involved in.

lemmiwinx said:
Should Boris win big in this election (as it appears) will the other side try to impeach him? Or is that just in American politics?
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Doesn't work that way here, he will either be defeated at the ballot box or by his own party. Margaret Thatcher won the 2nd biggest ever majority in Parliament but it was her own party that pushed her out.

dobieg said:
There's no telling what will happen when whiny ass brats don't get their way.


Probably be a bunch of protests, group therapy hugs and think tanks on how to get rid of Boris on some perceived transgression.
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You really need to look at what happened to Thatcher and how she lost her leadership.
 
Winston said:
Also worth noting Farage got his ass handed to him.

Brexit Party wins 0 seats!


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Farage got what he wanted - his party took Labour votes away in Labour-Leave seats to ensure Conservative wins.
 
Winston said:
Also worth noting Farage got his ass handed to him.

Brexit Party wins 0 seats!


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Make no mistake... this is an epic day for Farage. He is the man who instigated this departure from the E.U...and fought for the British people.

He’s smiling... so long as this isn’t some limp-wristed Brexit.

PS> Didn’t he tell candidates to stand down in much of the country? To ensure a Tory Party win?
 
Felis Leo said:
How do you figure, GreatNews2night? I would say a pro-Soviet Union, radical socialist and terrorist-sympathizer like Jeremy Corbyn would have been far more damaging to the NATO alliance than someone who simply wants to remove the United Kingdom from the European Union.
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I'm lamenting the Brexit itself, not necessarily the fact that Jeremy Corbyn lost. I'm lamenting the fact that by January 31st one of the main countries of the European Union will be gone. And yes, breaking down the European Union weakens NATO. This much is obvious, and I can't comprehend how you don't see it.
 
truthatallcost said:
Now you've finally made a somewhat logical post, as you've dispensed with the rhetoric about Putin and Russia, and instead focused on the real threat China. But who built China up from a 3rd world, poverty stricken nation 40 years ago, into the world power with the 2nd largest GDP, and a fully nuclear-capable military? Why it was the globalist elites in the USA, Europe, and Israel. The same globalists who are now hated, and who are ultimately responsible for bleeding average Americans, British and Europeans dry.

Brexit voters delighted in striking a blow to the globalists who pull the puppet strings of their government, and the thousands of Eurocrats employed by the EU. Corbyn spoke the absolute truth at an Oxford Union debate, when he said that "international corporations run the government here in the UK. Well they also run the massive bureaucracy that is the EU, and see individual sovereignty, national pride, and strong borders as obstacles to making money. Therefore, they needed to be destroyed, and replaced with some generic, meaningless duty to 'Europeanism'. These are the same people who pay for university studies which proclaim that there's no such thing as uniquely indigenous Swedish people, or indigenous British, etc. They are the enemy that Europe must root out of its midst now, and expunge.
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Regardless of how China was propped up, they are a threat. Russia is also one. NATO including the US of course, and the EU are obstacles to these two countries. In unity there is strength. Start breaking down the bloc, and you'll see what will happen next.
 
GreatNews2night said:
Regardless of how China was propped up, they are a threat. Russia is also one. NATO including the US of course, and the EU are obstacles to these two countries. In unity there is strength. Start breaking down the bloc, and you'll see what will happen next.
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It will likely be a global shift in power both economically, and politically. China has been playing the long game for decades, and now they have a strong enough market they can leverage. They also have the advantage of a unified government which need not be bothered with changing administrations and ideologies. This consistency will help them in their global aspirations I'm sure, as will all of the soft power they've been building. If China and Russia are looking at a world where the former leader (US) is looking to reduce its footprint, then those will be areas left for them to fill in whichever way that works best for their geopolitical interests.
 
I am delighted that many British people have finally woken up.

I hope that Prime Minister Johnson can do something to restore British values to the country.

I got my first chuckle when I noticed that the link in the OP comes from the Guardian, which must be very disappointed because of the results!
 
The UK will soon be no more not only Scotland but N Ireland also if Blo Jo says no Scottish courts will tell him to do it or give Hollyrood the powers to do it themselves
 
zimmer said:
This was sent to me by a buddy last week. It is one of the all-time great insights.
In London, Trump Won With Misdirection

I read this and thought:

1. The author is spot on and brilliant. He hits it on so many levels.

2. Trump is waaaay more savvy than anyone was giving him credit for. He is a bull in a china shop, but has way more gears than that. He proved it. Pure brilliance.
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Thank you for the link. Interesting read.

And you're correct, the President has many more gears. It's nice of the Democrats to keep them so well oiled.
 
Jake said:
Yes. The racists are taking over temporarily. But I feel that will end with the passing of the older generation. But the older generation will cause much damage in their hatred and anger before they pass.
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The leftist liberal commies are down for now, but not out.
 
GreatNews2night said:
I'm lamenting the Brexit itself, not necessarily the fact that Jeremy Corbyn lost. I'm lamenting the fact that by January 31st one of the main countries of the European Union will be gone. And yes, breaking down the European Union weakens NATO. This much is obvious, and I can't comprehend how you don't see it.
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Not all members of the EU are members of NATO and vice versa. The two organisations are separate and entirely different. The UK will remain a strong member of NATO as it always has been (and will continue to have a proportionate defence budget - unlike free-loading Germany, the ruler of the EU).
 
Godric1970 said:
The UK will soon be no more not only Scotland but N Ireland also if Blo Jo says no Scottish courts will tell him to do it or give Hollyrood the powers to do it themselves
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Nonsense.
 
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