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North Korea’s U.N. Envoy Says Denuclearization Off Table

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The North Korean ambassador’s statement is the most blunt demonstration that North Korea doesn’t need the United States now that they got what they wanted, which was for the United States President to treat North Korea as a legitimate state actor as well as to weaken our Asian alliances. Now, they’ve got their nukes, they’ve got official US recognition and global legitimacy, and they’ve fractured the wall of countries dedicated to containing them.

This is why Obama never visited North Korea or spoke with Kim Jong Un personally. That was a crucial currency we were withholding in order to get concessions. Another negotiation card we could have used was the suspension of military exercises with South Korea, but like a personal face-to-face, trump also handed that over in return for nothing.

But hey. At least he tried.

Denuclearization is off the negotiating table with the U.S., North Korea’s ambassador to the United Nations said Saturday in a strongly-worded statement that also criticized EU member nations for playing “the role of pet dog” to Washington.

Ambassador Kim Song said that the “sustained and substantial dialogue” sought by the U.S. with Pyongyang was a trick done to suit its domestic political agenda, according the statement, which was first reported by Reuters.

“We do not need to have lengthy talks with the U.S. now and denuclearization is already gone out of the negotiating table,” Kim said.
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Cardinal said:
The North Korean ambassador’s statement is the most blunt demonstration that North Korea doesn’t need the United States now that they got what they wanted, which was for the United States President to treat North Korea as a legitimate state actor as well as to weaken our Asian alliances. Now, they’ve got their nukes, they’ve got official US recognition and global legitimacy, and they’ve fractured the wall of countries dedicated to containing them.

This is why Obama never visited North Korea or spoke with Kim Jong Un personally. That was a crucial currency we were withholding in order to get concessions. Another negotiation card we could have used was the suspension of military exercises with South Korea, but like a personal face-to-face, trump also handed that over in return for nothing.

But hey. At least he tried.



Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
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Yes more "winning" by the stable genius. It guess the romance is off....or is it?
 
Cardinal said:
The North Korean ambassador’s statement is the most blunt demonstration that North Korea doesn’t need the United States now that they got what they wanted, which was for the United States President to treat North Korea as a legitimate state actor as well as to weaken our Asian alliances. Now, they’ve got their nukes, they’ve got official US recognition and global legitimacy, and they’ve fractured the wall of countries dedicated to containing them.

This is why Obama never visited North Korea or spoke with Kim Jong Un personally. That was a crucial currency we were withholding in order to get concessions. Another negotiation card we could have used was the suspension of military exercises with South Korea, but like a personal face-to-face, trump also handed that over in return for nothing.

But hey. At least he tried.



Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
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Another Trump failure.
 
Cardinal said:
The North Korean ambassador’s statement is the most blunt demonstration that North Korea doesn’t need the United States now that they got what they wanted, which was for the United States President to treat North Korea as a legitimate state actor as well as to weaken our Asian alliances. Now, they’ve got their nukes, they’ve got official US recognition and global legitimacy, and they’ve fractured the wall of countries dedicated to containing them.

This is why Obama never visited North Korea or spoke with Kim Jong Un personally. That was a crucial currency we were withholding in order to get concessions. Another negotiation card we could have used was the suspension of military exercises with South Korea, but like a personal face-to-face, trump also handed that over in return for nothing.

But hey. At least he tried.



Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
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Ok, so I want to make sure I got this right,

You believe Kim Jong Un when he says all of this.....because he needs the U.S. etc, or needed them....

But...you don't believe Zelensky....

So you think Kim Jong Un is more truthful? That's an interesting take....but ok, let's go with that...

Tell me what deals North Korea have made recently that have given them.....what was it....global legitimacy?
 
sjmay said:
Tell me what deals North Korea have made recently that have given them.....what was it....global legitimacy?
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What a weird and sad little place to move the goal posts to.
 
Cardinal said:
What a weird and sad little place to move the goal posts to.
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How is that moving the goal posts?

You stated that they now have global legitimacy......explain how.....if it's a simple meeting with the U.S......explain then how Trump can be the laughingstock of the world, AND powerful enough to have one meeting give a nation global legitimacy....cmon you stated it, back it up.
 
sjmay said:
How is that moving the goal posts?

You stated that they now have global legitimacy......explain how.....if it's a simple meeting with the U.S......explain then how Trump can be the laughingstock of the world, AND powerful enough to have one meeting give a nation global legitimacy....cmon you stated it, back it up.
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Trump supporters never understood any of the dynamics at play in the negotiations with North Korea. They didn't understand why we can't just attack them. They never understood why past Presidents didn't visit North Korea personally. They didn't understand what North Korea wanted from us. They didn't understand why the thing they wanted from us was important. They didn't understand North Korea's relationship with China. They didn't understand anything.

And they still don't understand anything.
 
Cardinal said:
The North Korean ambassador’s statement is the most blunt demonstration that North Korea doesn’t need the United States now that they got what they wanted, which was for the United States President to treat North Korea as a legitimate state actor as well as to weaken our Asian alliances. Now, they’ve got their nukes, they’ve got official US recognition and global legitimacy, and they’ve fractured the wall of countries dedicated to containing them.

This is why Obama never visited North Korea or spoke with Kim Jong Un personally. That was a crucial currency we were withholding in order to get concessions. Another negotiation card we could have used was the suspension of military exercises with South Korea, but like a personal face-to-face, trump also handed that over in return for nothing.

But hey. At least he tried.



Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
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This has nothing to do with NK...and everything to do with China.

Trump was using NK against China and China is using NK against the US.

But you can be sure that NK won't be getting froggy with their missiles and their nukes because they know that Trump will raise tariffs on China.

Oh...and keep in mind that the NK economy depends on China. If China's economy goes down the tubes, so does NK's.
 
Cardinal said:
Trump supporters never understood any of the dynamics at play in the negotiations with North Korea. They didn't understand why we can't just attack them. They never understood why past Presidents didn't visit North Korea personally. They didn't understand what North Korea wanted from us. They didn't understand why the thing they wanted from us was important. They didn't understand North Korea's relationship with China. They didn't understand anything.

And they still don't understand anything.
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Well ****, apparently neither do you, because all you ****ing did there was tell everyone what they don't understand.....how about you trying to understand it...

But wait, did you really make the assumption that a US visit with North Korea,affects anything that China does? That's just ****ing asinine on it's face as it's China who has been controlling North Korea the entire ****ing time..but hey, keep on telling people what they don't understand, but not explaining anything....makes you look ****ing retarded....
 
Rexedgar said:
Dotard is back on the table, though!

'Dotage of a dotard': North Korea renews attack on Donald Trump 'Dotage of a dotard': North Korea renews attack on Donald Trump - BBC News
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This is why I supported Clinton. I knew she would be paralyzed domestically, but I also knew she wouldn't turn every conceivable issue on the world stage into a first rate **** show. But she lost, and now we get to watch two narcissistic sociopaths with nuclear arsenals trade third grade insults with each other.
 
Cardinal said:
. At least he tried.
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Trump & Co. bring to mind a song....






He had a lot to say
He had a lot of nothing to say
We'll miss him
We'll miss him

He had a lot to say
He had a lot of nothing to say
We'll miss him
We'll miss him

We are going to miss him
We are going to miss him

So long
We wish you well
You told us how you weren't afraid to die
Well then, so long
Don't cry
Or feel too down
Not all martyrs see divinity
But at least you tried

Standing above the crowd
He had a voice that was strong and loud
We'll miss him
We'll miss him

Ranting and pointing his finger
At everything but his heart
We'll miss him
We'll miss him

We are going to miss him
No way to recall
What it was that you had said to me,
Like I care at all
So loud.
You sure could yell.
You took a stand on every little thing
And so loud

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice so strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade cuz I'm so
Eager to identify with
Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same
Someone prepared to lead the way, with
Someone who would die for me
Will you? will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don't you ****ing lie

Don't you step out of line
Don't you step out of line
Don't you step out of line
Don't you ****ing lie
You've claimed all this time that you would die for me.
Why then are you so surprised when hear your own eulogy?
He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say
He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say
Come down
Get off your ****in' cross
We need the ****in' space to nail the next fool martyr
To ascend you must die
You must be crucified
For our sins and our lies
Goodbye

- Eulogy (Tool)
 
sjmay said:
Well ****, apparently neither do you, because all you ****ing did there was tell everyone what they don't understand.....how about you trying to understand it...

But wait, did you really make the assumption that a US visit with North Korea,affects anything that China does? That's just ****ing asinine on it's face as it's China who has been controlling North Korea the entire ****ing time..but hey, keep on telling people what they don't understand, but not explaining anything....makes you look ****ing retarded....
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I tell you, the one in control is the Antichrist.

Un, Un, plays them all.

He doesn't care.

Throw him in a lake of fire for five-million years, he doesn't care, he likes it there.
 
I would like to see how “rocket man” gets on the horse.......


The challenge is issued, Trump needs to reciprocate, Trump loves that word....

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sjmay said:
Well ****, apparently neither do you, because all you ****ing did there was tell everyone what they don't understand.....how about you trying to understand it...

But wait, did you really make the assumption that a US visit with North Korea,affects anything that China does? That's just ****ing asinine on it's face as it's China who has been controlling North Korea the entire ****ing time..but hey, keep on telling people what they don't understand, but not explaining anything....makes you look ****ing retarded....
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Un wants the fruit with which the young boy and his people were deceived; glory, power, conquest, control and inter-stellar Kingdom.

They did everything the deceiver said and lost their thronerooms to the present ten million year cycle; noon of the universe; the minute or so it takes the Sun to pass the meridian.

The deciever told them to take their Father, Son and Holy Ghost and (shh, don't do this) "Jump through a black hole."

Un was the only soul to escape the seal.

In the midnight of their big bang, they are a more advanced group of souls, than those appearing at the noon.
 
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Mycroft said:
This has nothing to do with NK...and everything to do with China.

Trump was using NK against China and China is using NK against the US.

But you can be sure that NK won't be getting froggy with their missiles and their nukes because they know that Trump will raise tariffs on China.

Oh...and keep in mind that the NK economy depends on China. If China's economy goes down the tubes, so does NK's.
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Trump is about to raise tariffs on China and NK is about to resume Nuclear and ICBM testing. China is still the fastest growing economy in the world and they are not going to go down the tubes anytime soon no matter how Trump strangles our own economy with more tariffs.

The International Monetary Fund predicts 6.2% economic growth for China in 2019.
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China, World's No. 2 Economy, Still Growing but More Slowly | Voice of America - English
 
SLC said:
and on a Shetland Pony!
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that's not Shetland pony, his feet are a good three and a half feet off the ground; half a Tribulation.

I think his saddle straps have been photo-shopped though.
 
Exquisitor said:
that's not Shetland pony, his feet are a good three and a half feet off the ground; half a Tribulation.

I think his saddle straps have been photo-shopped though.
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Sure its a Shetland Pony that why his feet aren't 5 feet in the air. He is on a saddle look at his knee area . Looks like the saddle straps have been photo-shopped though.
 
Exquisitor said:
Is Un galloping bareback?

I'm impressed.
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No need to be impressed, looks almost to be a training saddle and his short little legs barely fit around the horse.

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Sabre said:
No need to be impressed, looks almost to be a training saddle and his short little legs barely fit around the horse.

kim.jpg
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There he goes over rough terrain.

Just think, the horse ridden by the Antichrist.

Just think how it feels.

You can't give Un too much, he'll run away on you.
 
SLC said:
Sure its a Shetland Pony that why his feet aren't 5 feet in the air. He is on a saddle look at his knee area . Looks like the saddle straps have been photo-shopped though.
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It's an Arabian. One of the oldest breed of horses in the world. They usually stand about at about 5 feet.
 
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