• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

U.S. Added 266,000 Jobs in November; Unemployment at 3.5%

Oh, you want another graph? The first two dozen didnt change your mind? Newsflash... the next two dozen will have the same slope you’re trying to furiously ignore.

So in your opinion context doesn't matter to you? You think a part time for economic reason job is the same as a full time job? Can you explain why Obama got 4 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008 with that strong economy you are claiming he had?

Why is it your ideology is losing all over the world, Britain yesterday and now Sweden

Sweden: Confronting Reality

What is it about people like you who ignore history and believe you can do a better job implementing that liberal utopia that other liberals were incapable of doing?
 
No, I posted facts, you ignored them

Nothing you've stated has refuted the posts you've been quoting. You're just hopelessly flinging **** hoping i stop responding.

Remember those wonderful Obama years leaving Trump with a 1.6% GDP growth

Nope.

declining GDP dollars

GDP never declined in nominal terms. You're just unable to articulate your petty thoughts. What you're meaning to say is nominal gdp growth declined enough for you to cherry pick.

and let's not forget adding 9.3 trillion to the debt with much of that gov't spending in those GDP numbers

By all means, wear your hypocrisy with both ignorance and honor.

Amazing how percentage change and inflation adjusted numbers are used by you on current dollars and expenses.

It's how you make historical comparison. You don't have the slightest clue of what data analysis entails, and so you push this garbage as though it carries any value.

What affect does inflation have on current expenditures and revenue?

Inflation and population growth makes it difficult to compare different periods of time. Hence, why economists adjust for inflation and population... did you think these statistics were created as a big conspiracy to confuse the conservative base? Do you think by ignoring these methodologies your arguments are any more salient? Absolutely not.

Still waiting for you to explain why Obama had 4 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008 with what you call 16 million new jobs created?

Start a thread and wait until i show up.:lol:

Your partisanship and lack of context in your posts defines you as a liberal not an independent

You've yet to identify any partisanship in anything i've posted, where as all i seem to do is point out such instances in every single post of yours to which i respond.

It is interesting how official data doesn't resonate with you as apparently admitting you are wrong isn't in your DNA

Your interpretation of official data is invalid.
 
So in your opinion context doesn't matter to you? You think a part time for economic reason job is the same as a full time job? Can you explain why Obama got 4 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008 with that strong economy you are claiming he had?

Why is it your ideology is losing all over the world, Britain yesterday and now Sweden

Sweden: Confronting Reality

What is it about people like you who ignore history and believe you can do a better job implementing that liberal utopia that other liberals were incapable of doing?

You appear to have difficulty interpreting straight lines.
 
Nothing you've stated has refuted the posts you've been quoting. You're just hopelessly flinging **** hoping i stop responding.



Nope.



GDP never declined in nominal terms. You're just unable to articulate your petty thoughts. What you're meaning to say is nominal gdp growth declined enough for you to cherry pick.



By all means, wear your hypocrisy with both ignorance and honor.



It's how you make historical comparison. You don't have the slightest clue of what data analysis entails, and so you push this garbage as though it carries any value.



Inflation and population growth makes it difficult to compare different periods of time. Hence, why economists adjust for inflation and population... did you think these statistics were created as a big conspiracy to confuse the conservative base? Do you think by ignoring these methodologies your arguments are any more salient? Absolutely not.



Start a thread and wait until i show up.:lol:



You've yet to identify any partisanship in anything i've posted, where as all i seem to do is point out such instances in every single post of yours to which i respond.



Your interpretation of official data is invalid.

Nominal terms? LOL, you are so right, Obama didn't leave Trump with a 1.6% GDP growth and declining dollar growth, He really set Trump up for success for which he deserves credit. Adding 9.3 trillion to the debt to generate the worst recovery in American history was indeed a gift to Trump. My interpretation of data is spot on, yours shows no ability to understand context and is nothing but partisan regurgitation of leftwing spin and lies. Just admit it, you don't really care about anyone else but your left wing ideology as actual results in context doesn't matter to you
 
You appear to have difficulty interpreting straight lines.

And your failure to answer direct questions is noted. there is something about liberalism that creates your kind of loyalty, wish I understood what it was. Want me to give you the definition of context?
 
Thank you and coming from you that is typical leftwing personal insults that show just how small of a person you really are

You don't understand why economists adjust for inflation. You don't know why economists use percentage changes. Hell, you have no comprehension of indexing. Simple data analysis is well above your pay grade.
 
And your failure to answer direct questions is noted. there is something about liberalism that creates your kind of loyalty, wish I understood what it was. Want me to give you the definition of context?

I’m pretty sure your definition includes gosh galloping as much irrelevant peripheral information you can think of so you don’t have to address the obvious point.
 
You don't understand why economists adjust for inflation. You don't know why economists use percentage changes. Hell, you have no comprehension of indexing. Simple data analysis is well above your pay grade.

Don't give a damn, I care about the effect at the time on the American people not some phony comparison you make up to pump up the Obama failures. The American people didn't benefit from the Obama economy like they are today and that is what really matters.

my pay grade is of no business of yours but from what I see in your posts my successes trump yours because I understand what it takes to generate those successes, you don't seem to have a clue. Keep more money benefits the American people whereas higher taxes and more dependence don't and that is what liberalism promotes. The Trump economy has blown the Obama economy away and that is hard for radicals to admit
 
I’m pretty sure your definition includes gosh galloping as much irrelevant peripheral information you can think of so you don’t have to address the obvious point.

Addressing the obvious points seems to be a problem for you not, me, this thread is about 266,000 jobs created in November giving Trump 6.5 million since taking office and a 52% approval rating on the economy. 6 million jobs created in 9 years from 2008-2017 is a fiscal disaster due to the 9.3 trillion added to the debt and was shown at the ballot boxes in 2012-2014 and 2016.
 
Addressing the obvious points seems to be a problem for you not, me, this thread is about 266,000 jobs created in November giving Trump 6.5 million since taking office and a 52% approval rating on the economy. 6 million jobs created in 9 years from 2008-2017 is a fiscal disaster due to the 9.3 trillion added to the debt and was shown at the ballot boxes in 2012-2014 and 2016.

25e6e198d8c12ad0b6936bd2f0bf6618.jpg
 

Any idea what the part time for economic reason employment contributed to the drop in the unemployment rate? Of course not because to you a job is a job but to those holding part time jobs because they couldn't find a full time job the lines are meaningless and contributed to the 4 million vote loss that Obama achieved in 2012

Can you explain why the under employed or the U-6 rate never got back to pre recession levels of 9.2% under Obama during his 8 year term and is now at 7%?
 
Any idea what the part time for economic reason employment contributed to the drop in the unemployment rate? Of course not because to you a job is a job but to those holding part time jobs because they couldn't find a full time job the lines are meaningless and contributed to the 4 million vote loss that Obama achieved in 2012

Can you explain why the under employed or the U-6 rate never got back to pre recession levels of 9.2% under Obama during his 8 year term and is now at 7%?

I’ll wait til you explain how all of that stuff dramatically turned around in November 2016.

Feel free to reference graphs.
 
I’ll wait til you explain how all of that stuff dramatically turned around in November 2016.

Feel free to reference graphs.
Simple. Economic decision makers saw that instead of four more years of Obama's idiotic policies (remember Hilary campaigning as "Obama's third term") there was a chance for an administration that favored economic growth and prosperity instead of one who's official position that high unemployment and slow growth was the "new normal". As an example take a look at a historical DJIA chart for 2016 to the present. Notice the sharp upturn the day after Trump was elected - Friday's close was 45% HIGHER than the day he was elected.
 
Simple. Economic decision makers saw that instead of four more years of Obama's idiotic policies (remember Hilary campaigning as "Obama's third term") there was a chance for an administration that favored economic growth and prosperity instead of one who's official position that high unemployment and slow growth was the "new normal". As an example take a look at a historical DJIA chart for 2016 to the present. Notice the sharp upturn the day after Trump was elected - Friday's close was 45% HIGHER than the day he was elected.

So why are the trends literally flat?
 
So why are the trends literally flat?

What trends? As I mentioned the stock markets have gone up 40-50% since he was elected, unemployment had dropped. Tax revenues are going up, wages are increasing.
 
What trends? As I mentioned the stock markets have gone up 40-50% since he was elected, unemployment had dropped. Tax revenues are going up, wages are increasing.

WTF? Do I need to post another iteration of the graphs I’ve been posting for a week?

You ****in conservatives - it’s always Groundhog Day when you cant face reality.
 
WTF? Do I need to post another iteration of the graphs I’ve been posting for a week?

You ****in conservatives - it’s always Groundhog Day when you cant face reality.
Already addressed your graphs - they don't show what you claim they do. You try to blend in Obama's entire term where he gets a big boost from the economy returning to normal from a deep recession; but that's NOT the economy he turned over to Trump. The economy he turned over WAS flat, or declining. YOUR graphs showed THAT.
 
I’ll wait til you explain how all of that stuff dramatically turned around in November 2016.

Feel free to reference graphs.

You apparently have no understanding how keeping more of what you earn impacts the economy, probably because you don't earn a lot. You seem to believe Obama created the stock market boom after the election of 2016 and after inauguration in January. Guess we should thank Obama for setting up Trump for such success?
 
You apparently have no understanding how keeping more of what you earn impacts the economy, probably because you don't earn a lot. You seem to believe Obama created the stock market boom after the election of 2016 and after inauguration in January. Guess we should thank Obama for setting up Trump for such success?

You’re right.

Thanks, Obama!

(Holy crap! I think he’s finally catching on!)
 
You’re right.

Thanks, Obama!

(Holy crap! I think he’s finally catching on!)

Yep a lot easier taking over an economy in decline and growing it vs. taking a booming economy and creating more growth, the exception of course was Obama who you claim inherited the worst recession since the Great Depression. He then generated the worst recovery from a major recession in modern history so yes those poor results set up Trump for success. You simply cannot admit you are wrong
 
Yep a lot easier taking over an economy in decline and growing it vs. taking a booming economy and creating more growth, the exception of course was Obama who you claim inherited the worst recession since the Great Depression. He then generated the worst recovery from a major recession in modern history so yes those poor results set up Trump for success. You simply cannot admit you are wrong

You can say it too.

T-H-A-N-K-S O-B-A-M-A!!!

Or did you mean it like this?

f6c950107a1280c7e838783f563397ca.jpg
 
You can say it too.

T-H-A-N-K-S O-B-A-M-A!!!

Or did you mean it like this?

f6c950107a1280c7e838783f563397ca.jpg

Are you ever going to grow up? Stop the childish posts and respond to the data presented. Why such loyalty to Obama and the Democratic Agenda?
 
Back
Top Bottom