U.S. Added 266,000 Jobs in November; Unemployment at 3.5%

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Cardinal said:

Sweet! That’s, like, the 36th straight month in Trump’s presidency in which good job growth was shown. His approval will have to go above 44% now!

Oh wait, it won’t.

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At this SAME point in his first term OBama had as 42% approval rating. And if my memory serves me correctly Obama won a second term.

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Phys251 said:

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Oh, by the way, our racist President has reduced African American unemployment from 7.7% in January 2017 to 5.5% today and that is gaining African American support that the Democrats cannot afford to lose. Aren't you feeling a little bit stupid these days supporting that leftwing ideology?

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SLC said:

At this SAME point in his first term OBama had as 42% approval rating. And if my memory serves me correctly Obama won a second term.

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Interesting how the left ignores the public's response to the Obama recovery, he got 4 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008 whereas Reagan got 10 million more in 1984 vs. 1980 with what has been compared to equal recessions. He also lost the House again in 2012 and the Congress in 2014. those are the kind of economic results the left ignores yet calls his administration a success

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Conservative said:

I posted the official data that refutes your claims of a job recovery, 6 million jobs created in 9 years isn't a recovery, it is a disaster especially since 5.7 million of those 152 million in January 2017 were part time jobs for economic reasons. We have 4.3 million today included in the 158.6 million employed. The radical left is laughing at the fool they are making out of you

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Conservative said:

I posted the official data that refutes your claims of a job recovery, 6 million jobs created in 9 years isn't a recovery, it is a disaster especially since 5.7 million of those 152 million in January 2017 were part time jobs for economic reasons. We have 4.3 million today included in the 158.6 million employed. The radical left is laughing at the fool they are making out of you

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The overall job growth numbers have stayed within the same window since the early 2010s. If that's too complicated for you to understand, then understand this: You are praising Trump and criticizing Obama for the exact same thing. :laughat:

Conservative said:

Oh, by the way, our racist President has reduced African American unemployment from 7.7% in January 2017 to 5.5% today and that is gaining African American support that the Democrats cannot afford to lose. Aren't you feeling a little bit stupid these days supporting that leftwing ideology?

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Trying to play the race card AND a deflection all in one! :bravo:

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Threegoofs said:

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What the hell are you posting and why are you ignoring the Democratic Congress from January 2007? You want to give Obama credit based upon the Democratic policies that generated the drop in employment in 2008 and their failure to do their jobs wanting the WH more than taking care of people like you. What part of 5.7 million part time jobs for economic reasons in January 2017 vs 4.8 million when the recession began don't you understand? Wasn't it Obama's job to get us back to pre recession levels? He failed in that category and failed in the U-6 which caused him to get 4 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008.

Why such loyalty to the liberal ideology and such ignorance of the data?

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Phys251 said:

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The overall job growth numbers have stayed within the same window since the early 2010s. If that's too complicated for you to understand, then understand this: You are praising Trump and criticizing Obama for the exact same thing. :laughat:


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Trying to play the race card AND a deflection all in one! :bravo:

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Job numbers but not context as you apparently believe a part time job for economic reasons is the same as a full time job.

I didn't call Trump a racist but bet that is what you believe. Democrats are losing African American support, why?

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Phys251 said:

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The overall job growth numbers have stayed within the same window since the early 2010s. If that's too complicated for you to understand, then understand this: You are praising Trump and criticizing Obama for the exact same thing. :laughat:


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Trying to play the race card AND a deflection all in one! :bravo:

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He has been playing this game for 2 years and before that he was actively being critical of tge Obama recovery as well, despite the GOP running Congress and hence the purse strings.

Facts are simple. Obama took unemployment from 10% to 4.5% and the orange moron has taken it from 4.5% to 3.5%.

250k new jobs under Obama was bad, 150k under McDon is good... Hypocrisy much?

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Conservative said:

Job numbers but not context as you apparently believe a part time job for economic reasons is the same as a full time job.

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Look at this, everyone! Con is losing the "Trump growth > Obama growth" argument, so now he's claiming that we have to take the numbers in context! Nice goalpost shift! :lamo

I didn't call Trump a racist but bet that is what you believe. Democrats are losing African American support, why?

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Keep playing that race card, it's all you've got left! :laughat:

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Conservative said:

What the hell are you posting and why are you ignoring the Democratic Congress from January 2007? You want to give Obama credit based upon the Democratic policies that generated the drop in employment in 2008 and their failure to do their jobs wanting the WH more than taking care of people like you. What part of 5.7 million part time jobs for economic reasons in January 2017 vs 4.8 million when the recession began don't you understand? Wasn't it Obama's job to get us back to pre recession levels? He failed in that category and failed in the U-6 which caused him to get 4 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008.

Why such loyalty to the liberal ideology and such ignorance of the data?

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Graphs are hard for people to understand when they are blinded by stupid ideology.

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PeteEU said:

He has been playing this game for 2 years and before that he was actively being critical of tge Obama recovery as well, despite the GOP running Congress and hence the purse strings.

Facts are simple. Obama took unemployment from 10% to 4.5% and the orange moron has taken it from 4.5% to 3.5%.

250k new jobs under Obama was bad, 150k under McDon is good... Hypocrisy much?

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When exactly did the GOP win the CONGRESS during the Obama 8 years and when were the results the best? How about a little honesty for a change? Why such loyalty to liberalism?

so like most liberals you have no problem with part time jobs for economic reasons?? This is the problem with liberals, context doesn't matter

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12032194
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level - Part-Time for Economic Reasons, All Industries
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Hours at work: 1 to 34 hours
Reasons work not as scheduled: Economic reasons
Worker status/schedules: At work part time
Years: 2008 to 2019

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 4846 4902 4904 5220 5286 5540 5930 5851 6148 6690 7311 8029
2009 8046 8796 9145 8908 9113 9024 8891 9029 8847 8979 9114 9098
2010 8530 8936 9233 9178 8845 8577 8500 8800 9246 8837 8873 8935
2011 8470 8464 8645 8652 8576 8427 8281 8788 9166 8657 8447 8171
2012 8305 8238 7775 7913 8101 8072 8082 7974 8671 8203 8166 7943
2013 8151 8178 7722 7964 7937 8103 8099 7816 7764 7936 7718 7827
2014 7296 7299 7435 7509 7254 7422 7402 7177 7020 7025 6898 6856
2015 6808 6671 6629 6608 6628 6383 6249 6423 6043 5811 6174 6084
2016 5941 5978 6066 6006 6467 5748 5926 5995 5918 5971 5738 5621
2017 5753 5603 5455 5279 5234 5266 5281 5237 5179 4912 4866 4986
2018 4982 5115 4969 4952 4920 4736 4588 4368 4656 4630 4781 4657
2019 5147 4310 4499 4654 4355 4347 3984 4381 4350 4438 4300

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How about addressing these official numbers??????????????????

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Threegoofs said:

Graphs are hard for people to understand when they are blinded by stupid ideology.

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Only liberals who are blinded by rhetoric and ignore that those graphs indicate actual people making up those numbers. 158.6 MILLION Americans employed today, get it, an increase in 6 million in 3 years. Why don't you tell me exactly what is wrong with those spreadsheets and what is stupid about the conservative ideology?

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Phys251 said:

Look at this, everyone! Con is losing the "Trump growth > Obama growth" argument, so now he's claiming that we have to take the numbers in context! Nice goalpost shift! :lamo



Keep playing that race card, it's all you've got left! :laughat:

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LOL, context doesn't matter to you, does it? You are married for some reason to the liberal ideology so tell us why? Race card has been played not by me but by radicals like you. You spend a lot of time here defending liberalism in spite of liberalism making a fool out of you

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Conservative said:

LOL, context doesn't matter to you, does it?

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The facts speak for themselves. Don't let those facts get in your way.

You are married for some reason to the liberal ideology so tell us why? Race card has been played not by me but by radicals like you.

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You are literally doing the very thing you are accusing me of. Classic projection. :lol:

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Phys251 said:

The facts speak for themselves. Don't let those facts get in your way.


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You are literally doing the very thing you are accusing me of. Classic projection. :lol:

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they sure as hell do and they prove that the left has made a patsy out of you and are making you look foolish. What projection have I made, do you need help reading the official data? Do you know what a part time for economic reason employee is?

Can you explain why Obama got 4 million fewer votes in 2012 vs 2008 whereas a President with what was called a similar recession got 10 million more votes?

Can you explain what exactly we got for the 9.3 trillion added to the debt for only 4.2 trillion GDP growth and 6 million jobs in 8 years?

Would love to understand a liberal but doubt seriously that any liberal will even try to explain their ideology

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Conservative said:

When exactly did the GOP win the CONGRESS during the Obama 8 years and when were the results the best? How about a little honesty for a change?

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You are talking about honesty? LOL Economies dont change overnight.. do you accept that at least? The "results" were best after the GOP took over Congress because they refused to work with Obama and hence the actions he did before they took power, were the ones that were effecting the economy.. ups kinda forgot that eh? Selective outrage and honesty?

Why such loyalty to liberalism?

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I am a liberal.. as defined by everyone on the planet but Americans. I am for free markets, liberty of the individual and all that. Now if you are trying to smear me by calling me a socialist by abusing the word liberal.. well that dont work.

so like most liberals you have no problem with part time jobs for economic reasons?? This is the problem with liberals, context doesn't matter

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LOL context matters, and you are the one that refuses to see it. Ever thought that part time jobs are better than no jobs at all?

How about addressing these official numbers??????????????????

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What about them? What do they show? Remember you are the one accusing me of not putting context into this.. so how about you honestly put context into those numbers.

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Conservative said:

they sure as hell do and they prove that the left has made a patsy out of you and are making you look foolish. What projection have I made, do you need help reading the official data? Do you know what a part time for economic reason employee is?

Can you explain why Obama got 4 million fewer votes in 2012 vs 2008 whereas a President with what was called a similar recession got 10 million more votes?

Can you explain what exactly we got for the 9.3 trillion added to the debt for only 4.2 trillion GDP growth and 6 million jobs in 8 years?

Would love to understand a liberal but doubt seriously that any liberal will even try to explain their ideology

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Your dishonest questions will not be answered until you can first answer this point: Why did you blame Obama and praise tRump for the exact same thing?

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PeteEU;1070998278]You are talking about honesty? LOL Economies dont change overnight.. do you accept that at least? The "results" were best after the GOP took over Congress because they refused to work with Obama and hence the actions he did before they took power, were the ones that were effecting the economy.. ups kinda forgot that eh? Selective outrage and honesty?

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Not normally, how did Reagan do it? you keep telling us that the GOP refused to work with Obama prior to taking control, what policies did Obama want during that term that the GOP rejected, the stimulus? ACA? My selective outrage comes from the official results your outrage comes at me pointing those out because that isn't what you want to believe. Why such loyalty to Obama and those poor results?

I am a liberal.. as defined by everyone on the planet but Americans. I am for free markets, liberty of the individual and all that. Now if you are trying to smear me by calling me a socialist by abusing the word liberal.. well that dont work.

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I haven't called you a socialist, I have refuted your data and opinions with facts and context. Seems you are having a problem understanding the spreadsheet, how can I help you? what is it in those spreadsheets that you don't understand? You want to believe the job creation was the same, numbers wise you call a part time job for economic reasons the same as a full time job and you call a job returning that was lost a new job created. Both are false. Why are you ignoring that only 6 million new jobs were created in 9 years, the last Bush year and 8 Obama years?

LOL context matters, and you are the one that refuses to see it. Ever thought that part time jobs are better than no jobs at all?

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Yes, they are better than no job at all but not equal to full time jobs and by definition a part time job for economic reasons is a person looking for a full time job and couldn't find one. That is an indictment of the Obama economy and shows failure

What about them? What do they show? Remember you are the one accusing me of not putting context into this.. so how about you honestly put context into those numbers

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The show exactly what I stated, the Obama recovery from a major recession was the worst in history and were blown away by the Trump economy. they show exactly what I stated, economic malaise, 6 million jobs created in 9 years, part time employment for economic reasons and the real unemployment number the u-6 higher than it was when the recession started.

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Phys251 said:

Your dishonest questions will not be answered until you can first answer this point: Why did you blame Obama and praise tRump for the exact same thing?

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Blaming Obama and praising Trump for the same thing??? Really,what same thing?

Job creation?? you mean part time jobs vs. full time jobs?

U-6 rate of 9.3 vs 7.0?

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Conservative said:

Blaming Obama and praising Trump for the same thing??? Really,what same thing?

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The answer has already been clearly supplied to you in this thread. Are you having difficulty reading it?

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Phys251 said:

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The answer has already been clearly supplied to you in this thread. Are you having difficulty reading it?

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Apparently so, why don't you explain it to me. You said I was praising Trump and blaming Obama for the same thing. point me to the post that does that?

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Conservative said:

Apparently so, why don't you explain it to me. You said I was praising Trump and blaming Obama for the same thing. point me to the post that does that?

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Right here:

Conservative said:

I posted the official data that refutes your claims of a job recovery, 6 million jobs created in 9 years isn't a recovery, it is a disaster especially since 5.7 million of those 152 million in January 2017 were part time jobs for economic reasons. We have 4.3 million today included in the 158.6 million employed. The radical left is laughing at the fool they are making out of you

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Now look at this chart:



As has been made crystal clear to you, the economic trends that began in 2010 have remained largely unchanged to this day. Thanks, Obama! :thumbs:

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Phys251 said:

Right here:



Now look at this chart:

As has been made crystal clear to you, the economic trends that began in 2010 have remained largely unchanged to this day. Thanks, Obama! :thumbs:

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Look, you want to use percentage change whereas I am using actual numbers, the higher the labor force the lower the percentage but the more jobs being created. Stop ignoring actual numbers, 146 million to 152 million is 6 million in 9 years. 152.1 million to 158.6 million is 6.5 million in 3 years. Do you see the difference? Percentage change is irrelevant, actual numbers are what matters

Keep focusing on trends when it suits you and ignoring the actual data when it doesn't.

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Conservative said:

Look, you want to use percentage change whereas I am using actual numbers, the higher the labor force the lower the percentage but the more jobs being created. Stop ignoring actual numbers, 146 million to 152 million is 6 million in 9 years. 152.1 million to 158.6 million is 6.5 million in 3 years. Do you see the difference? Percentage change is irrelevant, actual numbers are what matters

Keep focusing on trends when it suits you and ignoring the actual data when it doesn't.

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Thank you for admitting that a lot of Obama's job growth was full-time. :thumbs:

And you still haven't addressed the argument that the Obama recovery planted the seeds for today's full-time jobs situation. :lol: But you won't do that because it's not possible to give Obama an unconditional compliment.

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Phys251 said:

Thank you for admitting that a lot of Obama's job growth was full-time. :thumbs:

And you still haven't addressed the argument that the Obama recovery planted the seeds for today's full-time jobs situation. :lol: But you won't do that because it's not possible to give Obama an unconditional compliment.

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There is no doubt that the Obama economy gave us Trump and the results we have today. Your claim about full time job creation is nothing but your typical BS as that isn't what the official numbers show, 152 million employed in January 2017 with 5.7 MILLION of them part time for economic reasons. You cannot seem to grasp even the concept of context.

Here is what Trump generated. Now why such loyalty to the Democratic Party?

GDP Growth 2013 to 2018

2013 16974.9
2014 17521.7 736.8
2015 18129.3 607.6
2016 18707.2 577.8
2017 19485.4 778.2
2018 20494.1 1008.7
2019 21337.9
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2016 GDP growth 1.6% annual vs 2.9% 2018 with those terrible tax cuts, 3.2% January thru March 2019

Unemployment Rate 4.7% January 2017 vs. 3.5% today

Employed 152,1 million January 2017 to 158.6 million today

U-6 in January 2017 9.3% vs 7.0% today?

Part time for economic reasons, 5.7 million January 2017 vs. 4.3 million today?

African American unemployment 7.7% vs. 5.5% today?

Remember those wonderful Obama years leaving Trump with a 1.6% GDP growth, declining GDP dollars and let's not forget adding 9.3 trillion to the debt with much of that gov't spending in those GDP numbers