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RealityNow said:
if any of the campaign staffers were paying attention to finances, they'd have known when money got low and contribution were not increasing, it is assured that staffing gets cut. Why the act of being surprised?
One should not become a campaign staff member if they don't understand "that finances drives the bus" when they get in and on it. It's not like some career job ... unless for the person they campaign for wins, and they get jobs in the administration.
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Actually, it appears the woman who provided the bulk of the material used in the NYT article is a career campaigner. That's not an unusual job. Whether or not she should be surprised or bothered by staffers being inconvenienced as the campaign falters is another matter. It's been suggested that the article is just a hit piece. I don't care that much. I just wanted to open a discussion about sexism in employment/politics.
 
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Rexedgar said:
Congratulations on the strategy, you may get Mexico to “pay for the wall” to keep us out.

:lamo


Geography, my bad, only 150 miles off......
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You were more off than that. You were just ****ing wrong. :lamo
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
I am sorry but I have to call BS on this account of Kamala Harris. If the story Fox is citing is the New York Times’s article on there being disorder in Kamala Harris’s campaign, then I have to say that the New York Times is not telling the whole story. The ex-Harris aide cited as the main source for the NYT story, Kelly Mehlenbacher, said that her letter of resignation was effective November 30th 2019– the day after the publication of New York Times article she is cited in. And another curious detail: Kelly Mehlenbacher is now a campaign staff member for the Bloomberg campaign, and she was on the Bloomberg campaign’s payroll at the time of the NYT article’s publication and during the period that Kelly Mehlenbacher was still working for Kamala Harris’s campaign before her official resignation on November 30th.

Kelly Mehlenbacher Had not yet officially resigned from the Harris campaign and yet she was already working for the Bloomberg campaign at the time of Nyt article’s publication on November 29. The nyt article did not disclose the fact that Kelly Mehlenbacher was now a member of the Bloomberg campaign nor did it acknowledge that Mehlenbacher had officially joined the Bloomberg campaign while still being employed by the Harris Campaign.

The New York Times Article in my opinion is a deliberate political hit piece on Harris and one that is biased in favor of Bloomberg’s campaign.
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Even if that's true, she doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning the Primary, so it's a huge wasted effort. His money would be better spent going after the front runners.
 
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Nalu said:
Harris is not viewed that way by Democrats at all. Yet some Democrats consider her a "bitch" just as much as Republicans who call her a self-promoting, evil shrew based on her actions during Kavanaugh's confirmation also consider her a "bitch". So your reply doesn't answer my questions.
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So what? Those are my musing. Take them or leave them:2wave:
 
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beancounter said:
Even if that's true, she doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning the Primary, so it's a huge wasted effort. His money would be better spent going after the front runners.
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All that campaign money would be best spent cleaning up the poop and needles on the streets of her city.
 
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Acadia said:
So what? Those are my musing. Take them or leave them:2wave:
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Uh, sure. It seems natural to me that when people reply to me they would attempt to address whatever they're quoting, but some people don't seem to behave very rationally on the internet.
 
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Acadia said:
All that campaign money would be best spent cleaning up the poop and needles on the streets of her city.
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You really should broaden your news sources. Seriously.
 
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Nalu said:
Harris aide, in resignation letter, says ‘I have never seen an organization treat its staff so poorly’ | Fox News

"The letter forms part of an in-depth report, featuring interviews with dozens of current and former aides, by the Times. The article marks how Harris, once surging at the top of the polls, has since plummeted amid a reportedly dysfunctional and often headless campaign."

When she first announced her candidacy, I was excited for Harris. I thought she showed more promise than time has given us. If she's really fizzling out for good, I won't be sad about it.

I don't know how involved Harris is in the management of her campaign, but I've had some private conversations for months about her. There's still a formidable air of sexism around the presidential campaigns of women. Clinton was shrill and unlikeable. Harris is a bitch. Gabbard is sexy AF. Klobuchar is too nice and soft. That won't surprise anyone, but the sexism directed at Harris is related to this article.

She's a "bitch". I think that word can have a vast range of meanings, from innocuous to misognystic, but as it's applied to Harris, I would suggest that it basically means she's an assertive, aggressive female with a confrontational attitude and a marked level of disregard for the emotional parts of other people's lives. From there, my private conversations have gone a few different ways. To whatever extent Harris actually is a "bitch", why do we have to perceive her that way? In order to be successful brokers of power, why do some women feel the need to act like "bitches"?
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Actually when I think of the word "bitch" the first people that come to mind are trump and graham.
 
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lurchadams said:
Actually when I think of the word "bitch" the first people that come to mind are trump and graham.
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I think Harris, Hillary and Schiff.
 
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Nalu said:
Good thing no one suggested that then.
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It has nothing to do with suggesting. It's a real thing. This is why Obama was elected. This is why Hillary took second place.
 
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Nalu said:
It's an ugly look for all people or just for women?
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Men don't have to pretend to be women to become President.
 
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Rexedgar said:
Not discounting the article, but many ambitious women get the ‘b’ tag! Wasn’t Klobuchar accused of something similar early in the campaign?

Are You as 'Mean' as Amy Klobuchar? | The American Lawyer


The Democrats are in major disorder right now.
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I heard Klobuchar's campaign is very well organized and why she's managed to stay in the race thus far. Klobuchar has spent her funds wisely...Harris has not. Although, she did just came out with a 'bitchin' ad...


 
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Cardinal said:
I initially supported Harris, but there's no doubt that, any sexism aside, she ran a bad campaign. Her messaging was bad and her platform was unclear beyond "I'll kill trump in the debates."

Well, Harris couldn't beat any of her Democratic opponents in the debates, so that pretty much killed her one obvious appeal.
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Yep, if product X is not selling well then that does not necessarily mean that the sales staff is deficient. ;)
 
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Harris seems so nice on TV...



But yeah, this idea that you can't say horrible people are horrible?

Because they're in some arbitrarily defined protected group?

Completely insane.

:thumbs:
 
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There are two difficulties here.
1. Does anyone doubt Trump would say she "slept her way into office?"
and
2. Her later public treatment of Brown does nothing to diminish her reputation for limited interpersonal skills.

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Jan 27, 2019 - Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown addressed his past relationship with Sen. Kamala Harris in a letter to the San Francisco Chronicle on ...
 
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dcsports said:
It's got to be pretty embarrassing to have 1/3 the support of the mayor of a small town. With impeachment sucking all the oxygen out of the air, there's no way for her to gain any traction either. It sounds like her campaign is on the ropes financially, in a time when supporters start turning away from those at the bottom of the polls. Good chance she's one of the next candidates to make an exit, possibly even making the excuse that she 'needs to focus on impeachment'.
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Polls do not mean squat this early as by election day they change and further in the primary they change again, bill clinton was a nobody who never stood a chance of winning the primary let alone the election, reagan had no chance during his primary until he did, obama was a nobody senator with no voting record who has no chance of winning the primary, get the hint there when primaries start often absolute nobodies tend to surge to the front, without much rhyme or reason.\

Now in the case of harris her campaign tanked because gabbard destroyed everything she tried to campaign on in a single debate, and all of it was true, harris walked in with a freight train of baggage expecting that no one democrat or republican would aknowledge such, however it happened fairly early and destroyed her campaign chances. But to be fair if she could not withstand gabbard, she would have been completely destroyed by trump, her record was plain as day and all it takes is someone to call it out.
 
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lurchadams said:
Actually when I think of the word "bitch" the first people that come to mind are trump and graham.
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"Bitch" describes Trump and Graham too, as far as I'm concerned, but I'm talking about the kind of "bitch" that's used to describe certain women.
 
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Mongidig said:
I think Harris, Hillary and Schiff.
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What do those 3 people have in common that causes you to classify them all as "bitches"?
 
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Mongidig said:
It has nothing to do with suggesting. It's a real thing. This is why Obama was elected. This is why Hillary took second place.
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Obama was elected because he's black? And Hillary Clinton was second place because she's female? Is that what you're suggesting?
 
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Mongidig said:
Men don't have to pretend to be women to become President.
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So then women have to pretend to be men to achieve certain accomplishments. And it's an ugly look for women to pretend to be men. So does it make the most sense for women to stop pretending and consequently give up certain accomplishments, for women to accept that certain people will view the way they achieved their accomplishments as an ugly look, or for women to reject that perception and try to change it?
 
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3leftsdoo said:
Harris seems so nice on TV...



But yeah, this idea that you can't say horrible people are horrible?

Because they're in some arbitrarily defined protected group?

Completely insane.

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That's not what I'm talking about and if you were attempting to leave your first worthwhile post in history, you'd know that.
 
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Jack Hays said:
There are two difficulties here.
1. Does anyone doubt Trump would say she "slept her way into office?"
and
2. Her later public treatment of Brown does nothing to diminish her reputation for limited interpersonal skills.

[h=3]Willie Brown on Kamala Harris: 'We dated,' I 'influenced her ...[/h]
[url]https://www.usatoday.com › news › politics › onpolitics › 2019/01/27 › wi...
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Jan 27, 2019 - Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown addressed his past relationship with Sen. Kamala Harris in a letter to the San Francisco Chronicle on ...
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I still like Harris on some level. She appeals to me personally, but I don't think she would be the smartest choice to put up against Trump.
 
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Nalu said:
I still like Harris on some level. She appeals to me personally, but I don't think she would be the smartest choice to put up against Trump.
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I believe she would become a punchline. That's politically fatal.
 
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Jack Hays said:
I believe she would become a punchline. That's politically fatal.
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Trump's going to try to turn whatever candidate it ends up being into a punchline anyway. To the extent that Harris's odds are worse than anyone else's and that that is attributable to her past sexual history and her limited interpersonal skills (running against Trump, no less), that's why I started the thread.
 
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