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Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face 'abortion murder' charges

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A bill to ban abortion introduced in the Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.

Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face '''abortion murder''' charges


*sigh*……...absolute fail; if you want to speak from a position of authority, it helps to be an authority on the subject you are speaking on.

I wonder how many of the 19 co-sponsors of this bill are MD's or OB/GYN's?

Keller, Hood and eight of the bill’s 19 co-sponsors did not reply to requests for comment. The Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association also did not reply to a request for comment.
 
Bum said:
A bill to ban abortion introduced in the Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.

Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face '''abortion murder''' charges


*sigh*……...absolute fail; if you want to speak from a position of authority, it helps to be an authority on the subject you are speaking on.

I wonder how many of the 19 co-sponsors of this bill are MD's or OB/GYN's?

Keller, Hood and eight of the bill’s 19 co-sponsors did not reply to requests for comment. The Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association also did not reply to a request for comment.
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I am betting not a single one...and I have to question if they even graduated high school. Everyone knows you cannot force an implantation of a pregnancy and an ectopic pregnancy, when removed, dies immediately....there is no implanting it after the fact....I could only wish there were...my child lost to ectopic pregnancy would be 7 years old.
 
Onion?

Or just more pandering politicians leading the ignorant to the polls by the nose?
 
ClaraD said:
I am betting not a single one...and I have to question if they even graduated high school. Everyone knows you cannot force an implantation of a pregnancy and an ectopic pregnancy, when removed, dies immediately....there is no implanting it after the fact....I could only wish there were...my child lost to ectopic pregnancy would be 7 years old.
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I am sorry for your loss.
 
Bum said:
A bill to ban abortion introduced in the Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.

Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face '''abortion murder''' charges


*sigh*……...absolute fail; if you want to speak from a position of authority, it helps to be an authority on the subject you are speaking on.

I wonder how many of the 19 co-sponsors of this bill are MD's or OB/GYN's?

Keller, Hood and eight of the bill’s 19 co-sponsors did not reply to requests for comment. The Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association also did not reply to a request for comment.
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And you believed them when they told you that those funny cigarettes only contained corn silk - silly boy.
 
ClaraD said:
I am betting not a single one...and I have to question if they even graduated high school. Everyone knows you cannot force an implantation of a pregnancy and an ectopic pregnancy, when removed, dies immediately....there is no implanting it after the fact....I could only wish there were...my child lost to ectopic pregnancy would be 7 years old.
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:( I'm sorry this happened to you Clara.

EDIT: Oh, just read this further into the thread:

ClaraD said:
thank you, I am still lucky though...I have 4 beautiful grown children and a beautiful step daughter.
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:)
 
ClaraD said:
Everyone knows you cannot force an implantation of a pregnancy and an ectopic pregnancy, when removed, dies immediately....there is no implanting it after the fact
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Look, you can bore us with all your "science" and your "facts," but if the doctor doesn't reimplant that ectoplasmic fetus then the mother****er's going to jail.
 
So here's the problem as I see it.

There is no medical billing code for "re-implantation of ectopic pregnancy" since there is no such procedure.

In other words, it ain't covered by insurance.

In all seriousness, this bill is nothing but pandering politicians strutting for their poorly informed constituencies. "Look at me! I'm so pro-life, I sponsored a bill that make a criminal out of any doctor who refuses to perform this non-existent procedure."
 
This is peak flyover.
 
Bum said:
A bill to ban abortion introduced in the Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.

Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face '''abortion murder''' charges


*sigh*……...absolute fail; if you want to speak from a position of authority, it helps to be an authority on the subject you are speaking on.

I wonder how many of the 19 co-sponsors of this bill are MD's or OB/GYN's?

Keller, Hood and eight of the bill’s 19 co-sponsors did not reply to requests for comment. The Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association also did not reply to a request for comment.
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This seems dangerous to a woman’s health, and entirely pointless. Once the embryo is removed from a woman’s tube, I assume it would die. In order for a pregnancy to occur inside the womb, the fertilized egg must deeply implant on the uterus lining.. I don’t see how putting an embryo in a woman’s uterus is going to magically cause her womb and body to treat as a pregnancy.

It seems like a dangerous medical experiment, which could cause a woman to get sicker after a life threatening ectopic pregnancy
 
Cardinal said:
Look, you can bore us with all your "science" and your "facts," but if the doctor doesn't reimplant that ectoplasmic fetus then the mother****er's going to jail.
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Your post causes me to realize that these people are viewing the doctor as a murder for saving a woman’s life. That is their logic. It’s very serious. As absurd as it is, that’s the root issue here.

It the doctor doesn’t intervene and the woman dies, then that’s that, and no murder occurs. If the doctor intervened to save a life, he is a murderer.

That’s pro life logic. On one hand it makes sense and it’s easy to understand, but on the other, it’s entirely insane
 
SheWolf said:
Your post causes me to realize that these people are viewing the doctor as a murder for saving a woman’s life. That is their logic. It’s very serious. As absurd as it is, that’s the root issue here.

It the doctor doesn’t intervene and the woman dies, then that’s that, and no murder occurs. If the doctor intervened to save a life, he is a murderer.

That’s pro life logic. On one hand it makes sense and it’s easy to understand, but on the other, it’s entirely insane
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Welcome to the post-American century.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
So here's the problem as I see it.

There is no medical billing code for "re-implantation of ectopic pregnancy" since there is no such procedure.

In other words, it ain't covered by insurance.

In all seriousness, this bill is nothing but pandering politicians strutting for their poorly informed constituencies. "Look at me! I'm so pro-life, I sponsored a bill that make a criminal out of any doctor who refuses to perform this non-existent procedure."
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It’s easy to write this off as pandering. However, I think that this is really what the Christian pro life movement teaches, and it’s always part of this kind of legislation. GWB gave these people and their crazy logic cover and validation with his Conscience clause legislation.

These people are aiming for the Supreme Court too
 
SheWolf said:
It’s easy to write this off as pandering. However, I think that this is really what the Christian pro life movement teaches, and it’s always part of this kind of legislation. GWB gave these people and their crazy logic cover and validation with his Conscience clause legislation.

These people are aiming for the Supreme Court too
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Well, when a jury, let alone an appellate court convicts or upholds a conviction based on a doctor's failure to perform a procedure that does not exist on a patient who is in a life threatening situation, that is time to find a new place to live.
 
Hamish Howl said:
Welcome to the post-American century.
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I was recently talking to Christian pro lifer. I was explaining that Muslim and Jewish faith views abortion as wrong, but we don’t use rhetoric like it’s murder, genocide, a Holocaust, etc. I don’t think such rhetoric is helpful, and it leads to more problems. As I was telling the him this, he told me that Muslims and Jews don’t care as much about human rights as Christians. I thought his statement was funny, ironic and somewhat ignorant given the political discourse in America especially around refugees.

Pro life Christian rhetoric if anything promotes misinformation and simplifies genocides and human rights abuses. I find the entire conversation insanely dysfunctional and build on strawmen.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Well, when a jury, let alone an appellate court convicts or upholds a conviction based on a doctor's failure to perform a procedure that does not exist on a patient who is in a life threatening situation, that is time to find a new place to live.
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I agree. I also realize that such policies actually happen in other countries. It could have been in America too. I think we should take this stuff seriously
 
SheWolf said:
I was recently talking to Christian pro lifer. I was explaining that Muslim and Jewish faith views abortion as wrong, but we don’t use rhetoric like it’s murder, genocide, a Holocaust, etc. I don’t think such rhetoric is helpful, and it leads to more problems. As I was telling the him this, he told me that Muslims and Jews don’t care as much about human rights as Christians. I thought his statement was funny, ironic and somewhat ignorant given the political discourse in America especially around refugees.

Pro life Christian rhetoric if anything promotes misinformation and simplifies genocides and human rights abuses. I find the entire conversation insanely dysfunctional and build on strawmen.
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That sort of rhetoric is important if the actual goal is making women subservient, though.
 
Hamish Howl said:
That sort of rhetoric is important if the actual goal is making women subservient, though.
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That could be very true. I think a lot of the pro-life rhetoric does revolve around them wanting to control a woman’s body more than actual concern about unborn life being destroyed. Almost no pro lifer or has an opinion about unborn life being constantly destroyed by In vitro clinics.

There’s something more appealing about attacking women walking to an abortion clinic than one walking into an infertility clinic. Only one of those groups had sex and had an unplanned pregnancy, and that makes me think it’s about the sex
 
SheWolf said:
That could be very true. I think a lot of the pro-life rhetoric does revolve around them wanting to control a woman’s body more than actual concern about unborn life being destroyed. Almost no pro lifer or has an opinion about unborn life being constantly destroyed by In vitro clinics.

There’s something more appealing about attacking women walking to an abortion clinic than one walking into an infertility clinic. Only one of those groups had sex and had an unplanned pregnancy, and that makes me think it’s about the sex
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If they cared about children, they'd show a bit more interest in the kid after it's born. They don't. This has nothing at all to do with children, and everything to do with control.
 
As usual, it is all the factual science stuff that causes many on the right to lose their minds.

And as usual those same people do not give a rat's ass how their lack of grasp of science can harm people.

I have to wonder if any of those sponsors of that bill know an actual human being that has had an ectopic pregnancy. They can be very painful and very dangerous.

"Pro-life"? Not towards the woman whose state representatives want to subject to experimental surgery against their will.

Who are these people????
 
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