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Giuliani quips he has 'insurance' if Trump throws him 'under the bus'

Fletch said:
Well you would be wrong. But you should be used to that by now.
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Are you saying you deserved a worse grade than F minus?
 
Vern said:
Mrdeltoid, that is admirable attempt to downplay what Ghouliana said. But nobody "divides " the amount time one says something extremely insightful by the total time talking. Nor does it not being the "main topic" matter either. The fact is he said it. You could have gone with "he just meant that him and trump were best pals and that's all the insurance he needs" but that too would have been pointless. Remember, Trump and Cohen were best pals too. The question is, why would he think he needs "insurance"?
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It does matter. When a "journalist" cherry picks a millisecond quip, from a 15 minute interview, they are misrepresenting the interview, which was largely about Biden's history of corruption. Rudy recalls the interview:" TRUTH ALERT: The statement I’ve made several times of having an insurance policy, if thrown under bus, is sarcastic & relates to the files in my safe about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing of his office," Giuliani tweeted.
"If I disappear, it will appear immediately along with my RICO chart," he added."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ns-on-him-in&usg=AOvVaw2qeVvicHCHWb_QI5RVN68p
 
iguanaman said:
It is a common misconception but Presidential or attorney client privilege does not cover crimes.
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To be clear, I am a criminal defense attorney who handles appeals, so, I'm not suffering from a "misconception." Either you are or you misunderstood something. This is going to be vague, since being specific can take a long time in law. It is only about attorney-client privilege:



1. A client telling you about a crime he committed is covered by the attorney-client privilege.

General rationale: The defense attorney's job is to zealously defend the charged client. To do this, communications between client and attorney as to what is charged need to be unrestrained. If the client did it, he needs to tell the lawyer exactly what happened so that the lawyer can craft the best defense. That is impossible if, the moment the client admits committing the crime, the admission is suddenly not "covered by the attorney-client privilege." Clients could not communicate anywhere near fully with their attorneys, and their attorneys would almost certainly do a much poorer job as they would be operating on bad information. This is a simplification.


2. There are narrow exceptions.

a. The attorney may not aid the client in committing future crimes. Anything passing between attorney and client in service of commission of future crimes is not privileged. This is a simplification.

b. As I said, the client accuses the attorney of things in certain forums and the attorney must violate privilege in order to defend himself, ie, malpractice lawsuit ("you didn't tell me blah blah blah, so I did this, and I got screwed!"). This is a simplification.

There are others.



But " attorney client privilege does not cover crimes" is broad to the point of complete falsehood. If Trump tells Guiliani about past crimes, that's privileged. IF Guiliani helps Trump commit future crimes via legal advice, that isn't privileged. Same, if Trump throws Giuiliani under the bus as to past crimes in such a way that fit the narrow exception where the client has put the attorney in a position where revealing privileged info is sufficiently necessary to the defense of the attorney.




This all comes down to what Guiliani thinks his "insurance" is and whether Trump puts him in one of the narrow situations where he may ethically reveal that information.
 
mrdeltoid said:
It does matter. When a "journalist" cherry picks a millisecond quip, from a 15 minute interview, they are misrepresenting the interview, which was largely about Biden's history of corruption. Rudy recalls the interview:" TRUTH ALERT: The statement I’ve made several times of having an insurance policy, if thrown under bus, is sarcastic & relates to the files in my safe about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing of his office," Giuliani tweeted.
"If I disappear, it will appear immediately along with my RICO chart," he added."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ns-on-him-in&usg=AOvVaw2qeVvicHCHWb_QI5RVN68p
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"cherry picked" is particularly pointless. He said it. Who cares whatever lying nonsense he was spewing when he said it. He simply proves once again that trump only picks the "best" people.
 
There is no honor among thieves.
 
Mr Person said:
whether Trump puts him in one of the narrow situations where he may ethically reveal that information.
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Why would you assume Giuliani would only reveal info if he could do it ‘ethically’?

He doesn’t seem to bow to ethics in any other aspect of his life.
 
Threegoofs said:
Why would you assume Giuliani would only reveal info if he could do it ‘ethically’?

He doesn’t seem to bow to ethics in any other aspect of his life.
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Point.
 
Fletch said:
You mean like the 'insurance policy' that Strzok talked about that didnt bother you one bit?
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What was Strzok referring to? I haven't seen that, sounds like a right wing bubble concern.

We've got half a dozen Trump folks in ****ing jail and Trump tweeting like a moron as POTUS, every day, destroying careers, smearing public servants and veterans, fellating Putin, asking other countries to interfere in the 2020 in exchange for official acts...
.... and you're concerned about some random text with unknown meaning?
Your manufactured angst is not something you should reply to me with.
 
mrdeltoid said:
It does matter. When a "journalist" cherry picks a millisecond quip, from a 15 minute interview, they are misrepresenting the interview, which was largely about Biden's history of corruption. Rudy recalls the interview:" TRUTH ALERT: The statement I’ve made several times of having an insurance policy, if thrown under bus, is sarcastic & relates to the files in my safe about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing of his office," Giuliani tweeted.
"If I disappear, it will appear immediately along with my RICO chart," he added."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ns-on-him-in&usg=AOvVaw2qeVvicHCHWb_QI5RVN68p
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Fox's entire coverage of the hearings was just that.

And the republican questioners were just looking for soundbites.

And they got a couple. Completely out of context to the testimony of course.

But you obviously ate it up.
 
rocket88 said:
With Rudy? Julian Assange, if you're listening, please do NOT release these photos. For the love of all that is good and holy.
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Trump's president.

God is dead.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Okay, so Giuliani has incriminating or really embarrassing dirt on Trump. Is there any other way to read this?
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Yes ... try this one:


@RudyGiuliani
Follow Follow @RudyGiuliani
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TRUTH ALERT:

The statement I’ve made several times of having an insurance policy, if thrown under bus, is sarcastic & relates to the files in my safe about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing of his office.

If I disappear, it will appear immediately along with my RICO chart.

1:29 PM - 23 Nov 2019
 
Rudy's been told to walk it back despite his frequent claims that he's got something on the President. Now he's saying it was about dirt on the Bidens? If that was true Trump would have had him killed already!
 
mrdeltoid said:
It does matter. When a "journalist" cherry picks a millisecond quip, from a 15 minute interview, they are misrepresenting the interview, which was largely about Biden's history of corruption. Rudy recalls the interview:" TRUTH ALERT: The statement I’ve made several times of having an insurance policy, if thrown under bus, is sarcastic & relates to the files in my safe about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing of his office," Giuliani tweeted.
"If I disappear, it will appear immediately along with my RICO chart," he added."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ns-on-him-in&usg=AOvVaw2qeVvicHCHWb_QI5RVN68p
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Even Trump wishes Rudy would disappear. But the man crawls out of his coffin every sunset looking for a camera. Its unfathomable he was once called Anericas Mayor.
 
Barnacle said:
Yes ... try this one:


@RudyGiuliani
Follow Follow @RudyGiuliani
More
TRUTH ALERT:

The statement I’ve made several times of having an insurance policy, if thrown under bus, is sarcastic & relates to the files in my safe about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing of his office.

If I disappear, it will appear immediately along with my RICO chart.

1:29 PM - 23 Nov 2019
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Is anyone stupid enough to believe this?

He has this ‘evidence’, yet isn’t using it?

I guess he knows his audience is foolish enough to believe anything.
 
Threegoofs said:
Is anyone stupid enough to believe this?

He has this ‘evidence’, yet isn’t using it?

I guess he knows his audience is foolish enough to believe anything.
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There is a reason Trumps get togethers are called Rube Rallys.
 
yankintx said:
Even Trump wishes Rudy would disappear. But the man crawls out of his coffin every sunset looking for a camera. Its unfathomable he was once called Anericas Mayor.
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I've thought he was a wanker since day one, and am glad that this will be his legacy. imo he never deserved the accolades he received.
 
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Barnacle said:
Yes ... try this one:


@RudyGiuliani
Follow Follow @RudyGiuliani
More
TRUTH ALERT:

The statement I’ve made several times of having an insurance policy, if thrown under bus, is sarcastic & relates to the files in my safe about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing of his office.

If I disappear, it will appear immediately along with my RICO chart.

1:29 PM - 23 Nov 2019
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Bad Rudy, heal. Rudy, heal!

Good boy Rudy...good boy!
 
Manc Skipper said:
Rudy's been told to walk it back despite his frequent claims that he's got something on the President. Now he's saying it was about dirt on the Bidens? If that was true Trump would have had him killed already!
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Yep, the conversation was about Trump when he said "insurance" not Biden.

I wonder how many of his base will be gullible enough to believe this walk back?
 
These people sound innocent


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Insurance or not, I doubt Rudy can get within 100 yards of Trump nowadays.

They may not fire him outright, but he's definitely persona non gratis at the WH.
 
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