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Trump defends Yovanovitch attack: 'I have freedom of speech'

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Trump defends Yovanovitch attack: 'I have freedom of speech' | TheHill

President Trump on Friday defended his tweet earlier in the day attacking former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch in the middle of her public testimony in the House impeachment hearing, insisting he has the right to speak out.

"I have the right to speak. I have freedom of speech just like other people do," Trump told reporters at the White House after making remarks on a health care initiative, adding that he's "allowed to speak up" if others are speaking about him.
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Pressed on whether his words can be intimidating, as Yovanovitch and Democrats have said, Trump said no. He stated that he had 'freedom of speech' even if his speech is totally inappropriate given the circumstances.
 
Freedom of speech negates witness tampering? What an idiot.
I hope none of his supporters are stupid enough to believe that. (surely not)

Kind of like when he claims his abuse of power can't be abuse of power, because it's a power he has....like some sort of child-like imposter in the White House.

Also when he claimed he could fire Comey, therefore firing Comey for corrupt reasons, is OK.

It's almost like there is a pattern of corrupt behavior, then defending it with the most absurd remarks possible.
 
Which is also tempered by the responsibility and seriousness of the Office for which he is the occupant.

No ones arguing Trump doesn’t have freedom of speech and it’s often this bully club that gets brought out when someone says something especially heinous in an attempt to silence criticism.

And those on the other side who argue on restrictions on speech would be wrong, but the point is, Presidents should be made of sterner stuff and people in positions of power that say and do the things Trump says and does, don’t help their cases in any way whatsoever.
 
Taylor said:
Witness tampering?
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Witness tampering.

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1)influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2)cause or induce any person to—
(A)withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B)alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C)evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D)be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process;....
18 U.S. Code SS 1512 - Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute


Witness tampering.
Did this tweet really cross a legal line into witness tampering? I put this question to seven legal experts. Their responses, edited for clarity and length, are below.

There wasn’t a perfect consensus, but most experts agreed that Trump’s tweet falls pretty clearly within our understanding of an impeachable offense.
Impeachment hearings: Did Trump just commit witness tampering with his tweets about Yovanovitch? - Vox
 
JacksinPA said:
Trump defends Yovanovitch attack: 'I have freedom of speech' | TheHill

President Trump on Friday defended his tweet earlier in the day attacking former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch in the middle of her public testimony in the House impeachment hearing, insisting he has the right to speak out.

"I have the right to speak. I have freedom of speech just like other people do," Trump told reporters at the White House after making remarks on a health care initiative, adding that he's "allowed to speak up" if others are speaking about him.
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Pressed on whether his words can be intimidating, as Yovanovitch and Democrats have said, Trump said no. He stated that he had 'freedom of speech' even if his speech is totally inappropriate given the circumstances.
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Getting FIRED for being sh*t at your job, is not reason to impeach a President... especially one whose catchphrase is 'You're fired!':lamo
 
Trump said:
Getting FIRED for being sh*t at your job, is not reason to impeach a President... especially one whose catchphrase is 'You're fired!':lamo
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Who has Trump “fired” face to face?
 
JacksinPA said:
Trump defends Yovanovitch attack: 'I have freedom of speech' | TheHill

President Trump on Friday defended his tweet earlier in the day attacking former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch in the middle of her public testimony in the House impeachment hearing, insisting he has the right to speak out.

"I have the right to speak. I have freedom of speech just like other people do," Trump told reporters at the White House after making remarks on a health care initiative, adding that he's "allowed to speak up" if others are speaking about him.
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Pressed on whether his words can be intimidating, as Yovanovitch and Democrats have said, Trump said no. He stated that he had 'freedom of speech' even if his speech is totally inappropriate given the circumstances.
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Yes, bur he has a duty to speak responsibly. What he is claiming is absolute freedom of speech. That is not freedom, it is license. If that is ok with you, then that is a whole other discussion.
 
Trump said:
try harder
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Your messiahs catch phrase is going to bite him in the ass after November 2020. If he even makes it to then. :lol:
 
Trump said:
try harder
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The most powerful man in the world didn’t even know where James Comey was when he sent Igor out to fire him!


Fail less.....
 
Visbek said:
Witness tampering.

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1)influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2)cause or induce any person to—
(A)withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B)alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C)evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D)be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process;....
18 U.S. Code SS 1512 - Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute


Witness tampering.
Did this tweet really cross a legal line into witness tampering? I put this question to seven legal experts. Their responses, edited for clarity and length, are below.

There wasn’t a perfect consensus, but most experts agreed that Trump’s tweet falls pretty clearly within our understanding of an impeachable offense.
Impeachment hearings: Did Trump just commit witness tampering with his tweets about Yovanovitch? - Vox
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What Trump did meets none of those standards. Plus, you have to consider the fact that she didnt even know about the Tweet until Schiff told her about it. The key here is that you guys need to stop trying to criminalize everything Trump says and does. Its why we dont take you guys seriously
 
JacksinPA said:
Trump defends Yovanovitch attack: 'I have freedom of speech' | TheHill

President Trump on Friday defended his tweet earlier in the day attacking former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch in the middle of her public testimony in the House impeachment hearing, insisting he has the right to speak out.

"I have the right to speak. I have freedom of speech just like other people do," Trump told reporters at the White House after making remarks on a health care initiative, adding that he's "allowed to speak up" if others are speaking about him.
==================================
Pressed on whether his words can be intimidating, as Yovanovitch and Democrats have said, Trump said no. He stated that he had 'freedom of speech' even if his speech is totally inappropriate given the circumstances.
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His tweets are official government communications, therefore his attacks consist of government harassment of a citizen for speaking.
That's not freedom of speech. It is the crux of the very thing that the First Amendment protects Yovanovitch FROM.

The President of the United States is incapable of understanding the meaning of the First Amendment.
 
Visbek said:
Witness tampering.

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1)influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2)cause or induce any person to—
(A)withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B)alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C)evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D)be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process;....
18 U.S. Code SS 1512 - Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute


Witness tampering.
Did this tweet really cross a legal line into witness tampering? I put this question to seven legal experts. Their responses, edited for clarity and length, are below.

There wasn’t a perfect consensus, but most experts agreed that Trump’s tweet falls pretty clearly within our understanding of an impeachable offense.
Impeachment hearings: Did Trump just commit witness tampering with his tweets about Yovanovitch? - Vox
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Exactly. Not one of the legal experts called it witness tampering. And this from a left wing media source.

Did Trump just commit witness tampering? I asked 7 legal experts:
Probably not
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One thing we know for certain is that President of the United States of America Donald Trump is a real class act.
 
Mach said:
Freedom of speech negates witness tampering? What an idiot.
I hope none of his supporters are stupid enough to believe that. (surely not)

Kind of like when he claims his abuse of power can't be abuse of power, because it's a power he has....like some sort of child-like imposter in the White House.

Also when he claimed he could fire Comey, therefore firing Comey for corrupt reasons, is OK.

It's almost like there is a pattern of corrupt behavior, then defending it with the most absurd remarks possible.
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There was no threat. Y'all are embarressing yourselves. :lamo
 
Visbek said:
Witness tampering.

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1)influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2)cause or induce any person to—
(A)withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B)alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C)evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D)be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process;....
18 U.S. Code SS 1512 - Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute


Witness tampering.
Did this tweet really cross a legal line into witness tampering? I put this question to seven legal experts. Their responses, edited for clarity and length, are below.

There wasn’t a perfect consensus, but most experts agreed that Trump’s tweet falls pretty clearly within our understanding of an impeachable offense.
Impeachment hearings: Did Trump just commit witness tampering with his tweets about Yovanovitch? - Vox
Click to expand...

Where was the threat?
 
Trump said:
Getting FIRED for being sh*t at your job, is not reason to impeach a President... especially one whose catchphrase is 'You're fired!':lamo
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True and neither is impeachment for being a real asshole. I will let you try if you can figure out why Trump is being impeached.
BTW you know jack **** about the Ambassador other than swallowing the crap fed to you by Fox.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
His tweets are official government communications, therefore his attacks consist of government harassment of a citizen for speaking.
That's not freedom of speech. It is the crux of the very thing that the First Amendment protects Yovanovitch FROM.

The President of the United States is incapable of understanding the meaning of the First Amendment.
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He has never read the Constitution. Tony Schwartz, the ghost writer who penned 'The Art of the Deal' under Trump's name, said that Trump can neither read nor write. Try flipping through the Constitution some day.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
How was Yovanovitch "sh*t at her job"?
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She received a number of State Dept awards for her work over 33 years. She is now teaching at Georgetown while still a State Dept employee. Not bad recognition & she still has her job. Trump didn't have her fired.
 
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