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Roger Stone guilty of lying to Congress to protect Trump and his campaign

Conservative said:
Are you going to have the same scrutiny with your Democratic Nominee and where was that scrutiny during the Obama term with his politicized Justice Department?
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Look who shows up. LOL
 
Carleen said:
He was a close friend and lied for Trump thus my example “and those around him”
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Ok, but Stone was NOT a member of the Trump administration as you claimed, so either retract or make your point. As I told you above, Stone was briefly a part of the campaign until Aug. 15th, so there is no proof Stone was around Trump.

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"Never, to my knowledge, have we ever had a president with this much corruption in his admin and those around him."
 
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poweRob said:
Second time this has been dropped in here. Guess the talking points marching orders have been disseminated.
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That's just the placeholder I'm sure. Over the next day, surely they'll come up with something better than that, because really only the bottom dwellers will buy that nonsense when the testimony is Stone and Trump talked TWENTY ONE TIMES in the 6 months prior to the election. Of course Trump could not recall the substance of any of those 21 different phone calls, with Stone, who was not in the "administration" but part of the inner circle.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Roger Stone: Jurors deliver verdict in Trump ally trial over WikiLeaks

Roger Stone guilty of lying to Congress to protect Trump and his campaign. Roger Stone, an ally of President Donald Trump, was found guilty Friday of lying to Congress and obstructing its investigation into Russia to protect Trump and his campaign.

Stone faced seven charges: one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements and one count of witness tampering. The maximum penalty for all counts totals 50 years in prison, though first-time offenders generally receive much lower sentences.

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While not indicated in this news report from USA Today, live reporting states Stone has been found guilty on all 7 counts.
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He lied to protect the president. Now, will the president support him? Will he pardon him?

Or just throw him under the bus and claim he never knew him?

Had Nixon just thrown the CREEP guys under the bus and not tried to cover up their misdeeds, he'd not have had to resign. But, Nixon had some integrity.
 
didn't he once pose with a "lock her up" t-shirt?
 
poweRob said:
Already did in post #38. But I understand that you most likely didnt read it since you clearly didnt make it to post #7 on the first page before repeating it.
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1) You posted to me, I did not post to you.
2) You couldn't have posted to me in post #38 because my post came after in post #45.

But if you think you did, go ahead and believe that you refuted my post before I even posted. :shock:
 
JasperL said:
That's just the placeholder I'm sure. Over the next day, surely they'll come up with something better than that, because really only the bottom dwellers will buy that nonsense when the testimony is Stone and Trump talked TWENTY ONE TIMES in the 6 months prior to the election. Of course Trump could not recall the substance of any of those 21 different phone calls, with Stone, who was not in the "administration" but part of the inner circle.
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Phone records debunk them already. And they are now court documents. :lamo
 
trixare4kids said:
Ok, but Stone was NOT a member of the Trump administration as you claimed, so either retract or make your point. As I told you above, Stone was briefly a part of the campaign until Aug. 15th, so there is no proof Stone was around Trump.

Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
Never, to my knowledge, have we ever had a president with this much corruption in his admin and those around him.
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LOL, you're just digging yourself deeper into that hole.

Roger Stone Is Found Guilty in Trial That Revived Trump-Russia Saga - The New York Times

Mr. Trump, who agreed to respond to questions only in writing rather than sit for an interview, said he could not recall the specifics of any of 21 conversations he had with Mr. Stone in the six months before the election.
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The "Roger Stone? Hardly knew him!" defense for Trump isn't going to work.
 
trixare4kids said:
1) You posted to me, I did not post to you.
2) You couldn't have posted to me in post #38 because my post came after in post #45.

But if you think you did, go ahead and believe that you refuted my post before I even posted. :shock:
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Oh here comes the famous trix ploy of semantics wars because she cant ever admit being wrong . I never said i replied to you. I said i debunked your bull**** in post #38 because alls you did was repeat another posters garbage made in post #7.
 
Republicans at one point controlled:

The WH
The Senate
The House
The DOJ
The FBI
The Mueller investigation

They couldn't put Hillary or Obama or any of their scary boogiemen in prison.

Fast forward to 2019 and half of the guys who got Trump elected are in prison.

Don't they ever get tired of winning?

Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.
 
trixare4kids said:
Ok, but Stone was NOT a member of the Trump administration as you claimed, so either retract or make your point. As I told you above, Stone was briefly a part of the campaign until Aug. 15th, so there is no proof Stone was around Trump.

Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
"Never, to my knowledge, have we ever had a president with this much corruption in his admin and those around him."
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Weak sauce......I think Stone qualifies as “those around him.”
 
trixare4kids said:
Ok, but Stone was NOT a member of the Trump administration as you claimed, so either retract or make your point. As I told you above, Stone was briefly a part of the campaign until Aug. 15th, so there is no proof Stone was around Trump.

Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
"Never, to my knowledge, have we ever had a president with this much corruption in his admin and those around him."
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She was pretty clear with her comment. " In his administration " AND "those around him" aren't necessarily one and the same. What's obvious is Stone was "around" Trump and is now another one who will be spending time behind bars.
 
ludin said:
no they didn't.
they convicted stone of lying.

this was already documented in the mueller report.

i have the mueller report conclusion on russia handy if you need it.
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Yes, lying about his contact with the Trump campaign and his contact with WikiLeaks.
 
Must be one of those threads where a select few get to talk about everything except the topic for dozens of post.

Guys, the topic is Stone being found guilty.

:)

Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.
 
rickc said:
Something we have akways known.

But it will take up too much time to add these charges into the empeachment/senate trial.
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Which is a shame. Ditto for getting Mulvaney, Bolton, and other first-party witnesses before the impeachment committee. It seems Obstruction of Congress will definitely be one of the articles.
 
Chomsky said:
Which is a shame. Ditto for getting Mulvaney, Bolton, and other first-party witnesses before the impeachment committee. It seems Obstruction of Congress will definitely be one of the articles.
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These same people whining about heresay evidence where orgasming over Linda Tripp's testimony of what Monica Lewinsky had told her.
 
poweRob said:
Lol... Move those goal posts. Heave! Heeeeeeaaaave! :lol:

No collusion! No collusion! Okay collusion but collusion isnt in the US Code.

Conspiracy sure is in there though.
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no moving the goal posts. collusion is not a crime you have been told this for 3 friggen years and you still don't get it.

yep conspiracy is a crime did you not read the mueller report conclusion i posted you?

The investigation did not establish that the contacts described in Volume
I, Section IV, supra, amounted to an agreement to commit any substantive violation of federal
criminal law—including foreign-influence and campaign-finance laws, both of which are
discussed further below. The Office therefore did not charge any individual associated with the
Trump Campaign with conspiracy to commit a federal offense arising from Russia contacts, either
under a specific statute or under Section 371’s offenses clause.

The Office also did not charge any campaign official or associate with a conspiracy under
Section 371’s defraud clause. That clause criminalizes participating in an agreement to obstruct a
lawful function of the U.S. government or its agencies through deceitful or dishonest means.

The investigation did not establish any agreement among Campaign officials—
or between such officials and Russia-linked individuals—to interfere with or obstruct a lawful
function of a government agency during the campaign or transition period.

Accordingly, the Office did not charge any Campaign associate or other U.S. person with
conspiracy to defraud the United States based on the Russia-related contacts described in Section
IV above.

i added more for you.

no conspiracy either. straight from the mueller report.
so you can retract now or do you want to double down on where you are wrong?
 
Dittohead not! said:
He lied to protect the president. Now, will the president support him? Will he pardon him?

Or just throw him under the bus and claim he never knew him?
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There will be numerous pardons next year.

If Trump loses the election, he will pardon his cronies before he leaves office.

If Trump wins the election (gag), he will probably pardon his cronies shortly after the election.
 
poweRob said:
Look who shows up. LOL
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Look who is on another anti Trump thread, same old group of so called Americans who claim they care about the rule of law. Guilt by association only happens against Republicans, right?
 
ludin said:
no moving the goal posts. collusion is not a crime you have been told this for 3 friggen years and you still don't get it.

yep conspiracy is a crime did you not read the mueller report conclusion i posted you?

The investigation did not establish that the contacts described in Volume
I, Section IV, supra, amounted to an agreement to commit any substantive violation of federal
criminal law—including foreign-influence and campaign-finance laws, both of which are
discussed further below. The Office therefore did not charge any individual associated with the
Trump Campaign with conspiracy to commit a federal offense arising from Russia contacts, either
under a specific statute or under Section 371’s offenses clause.

The Office also did not charge any campaign official or associate with a conspiracy under
Section 371’s defraud clause. That clause criminalizes participating in an agreement to obstruct a
lawful function of the U.S. government or its agencies through deceitful or dishonest means.

The investigation did not establish any agreement among Campaign officials—
or between such officials and Russia-linked individuals—to interfere with or obstruct a lawful
function of a government agency during the campaign or transition period.

Accordingly, the Office did not charge any Campaign associate or other U.S. person with
conspiracy to defraud the United States based on the Russia-related contacts described in Section
IV above.

i added more for you.

no conspiracy either. straight from the mueller report.
so you can retract now or do you want to double down on where you are wrong?
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Moooove those goalposts. We told you guys for three years that collusion isnt a crime but conspiracy is. You guys just stuck with collusion because you knew this day was coming and you wanted room for that semantic weasel game you are playing now. Its failing you in such epic fashion.

Tables are turned.

Conservative tears taste so good.
 
Conservative said:
Look who is on another anti Trump thread, same old group of so called Americans who claim they care about the rule of law. Guilt by association only happens against Republicans, right?
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Conspiracy son. Conspiracy... Its a crime.
 
trixare4kids said:
How does that make President Trump complicit in the charges Stone was found guilty of today?
Make your point but use facts next time.
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Ah, so you make a bogus point, get called out, and then what?

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And what it shows is Trump invited this lying liar into his inner circle and the lying liar Stone did his job which was to lie about his contacts with Wikileaks and the campaign's knowledge ahead of time about the releases from them. If you don't care about the Trump people inviting a lying liar in the circle, then saying nothing as he lied about his contacts under oath, that's understandable, because you are a Trump supporter. For the rest of us, it's just another brick in the wall of this incompetent, corrupt administration.
 
Chomsky said:
Yes, lying about his contact with the Trump campaign and his contact with WikiLeaks.
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And guccifer 2.0... aka Russia. :lol:
 
Hatuey said:
Republicans at one point controlled:

The WH-
The Senate-
The House
The DOJ
The FBI
The Mueller investigation

They couldn't put Hillary or Obama or any of their scary boogiemen in prison.

Fast forward to 2019 and half of the guys who got Trump elected are in prison.

Don't they ever get tired of winning?

Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.
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And when exactly was that? Seems that civics isn't something you understand. So let's see if you can tell us when Democrats controlled the Congress and the WH? When Democrats controlled the House? When Democrats controlled the Senate? When Democrats controlled the Justice Department? Seems your memory is very selective, biased, and partisan

Amazing how poorly informed and educated the radical left is, same tired old rhetoric all still trying to overturn the 2016 elections. Amazing what power Trump had in 2016 prior to the election and how powerless Obama and Democrats were during that election cycle. Trump had what power over Russia as a non elected gov't official?
 
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