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The Young Turks founder Cenk Uygur files to run for Katie Hill's House seat

HK.227 said:
From what little I've seen of him, it seems he would make a politician in the mold of AOC, or a sans gravitas Al Gore.
Coming from me that's not an endorsement, but those two certainly have managed to assemble followings in their time, so YMMV.
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Cenk Uyger and Kyle Kylinski founded the Justice Democrats, which gave rise to AOC, the Squad, and several other progressive members of congress. Justice Democrats is a platform whereby candidates run on rejecting corporate financing. Cenk also founded Wolf-PAC, which a political action committee aimed at getting money out of politics via a Constitutional Amendment.

Regarding other criticisms of Cenk: He used to be a conservative Republican, later became a progressive. He admits that his head is still stuck in the past at times and he's always trying to be better than he was.

I like Cenk because he's a fighter from an ideology that has historically been 'pudding soft', submissive, if not outright acquiescent to the right-wing. He has debated the best the right-wing has to offer (Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Ann Coulter; has challenged Ted Cruz) and pretty much left them belly up.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Cenk Uyger and Kyle Kylinski founded the Justice Democrats, which gave rise to AOC, the Squad, and several other progressive members of congress. Justice Democrats is a platform whereby candidates run on rejecting corporate financing. Cenk also founded Wolf-PAC, which a political action committee aimed at getting money out of politics via a Constitutional Amendment.

Regarding other criticisms of Cenk: He used to be a conservative Republican, later became a progressive. He admits that his head is still stuck in the past at times and he's always trying to be better than he was.

I like Cenk because he's a fighter from an ideology that has historically been 'pudding soft', submissive, if not outright acquiescent to the right-wing. He has debated the best the right-wing has to offer (Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Ann Coulter; has challenged Ted Cruz) and pretty much left them belly up.
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I watched the Tucker Carlson one, and while Tucker spoke the most and spoke the loudest, I thought Cenk had the better points.
 
Harshaw said:
Yeah, Cenk tweeted just today:



There's so much stupid in this, it's hard to know where to start unpacking.

First, not one thing about what the kid did to shoot in that school was legal. He obtained the gun illegally. He carried it illegally. He used it illegally. That he succeeded had nothing to do with a lack of gun control; everything he did with that gun, including obtaining it, was illegal. The gun control was there.

California already has every bit of gun control that Cenk is blasting McConnell for supposedly blocking, and every bit of "common sense gun control" that advocates insist is all they want.

The idea that there's "no gun control at all" is completely and entirely detached from reality.

And the entire diatribe about the NRA and its money is based on the absurd premise that BUT FOR NRA bribe money, there's a whole army of politicians, especially in conservative states and rural areas, who would otherwise be eager to enact strict gun laws, but no, they've got NRA gravy, so they don't.

Cenk is not a politically serious person.
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Cenk isn't my cup of tea. But, he fights for what he believes, which is more than I can say for essentially all the republicans and 99% of the democrats in office.

The NRA is a corrupt institution.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Noted fascist and Armenian Genocide denier...
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Oof. For a who's who of who can post the most racist stuff on the internet, see the author and likers of post 5.
 
The Mark said:
First I've heard of the fascist thing, but he doesn't deny the Armenian Genocide anymore.
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Google “The Young Turks” and click the first result that isn’t Cenk’s network.

Yeah it only took him until 2019 to actually say the Armenian Genocide happened, sorry I wasn’t so up to date when he spent his entire life espousing denial until this year.
 
Nalu said:
Oof. For a who's who of who can post the most racist stuff on the internet, see the author and likers of post 5.
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What have I posted that is racist?
 
Surrealistik said:
What are his attacks?

Ancient history; his words and deeds for more than the past decade have been stridently progressive.
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Progressives = Hypocritical, dishonest, incompetent, warmongering closet conservatives

Uygur = Repugnant, pandering, mega-homophobic, Russiagate-spewing, McCarthyist right-wing warmonger

Who has the repulsive, warmongering, thuggish CIA asshat Uygur attacked?

- Gabor's brilliant son Aaron.

- TYT reporters who think for themselves.

- Anyone on the left who doesn't buy into his grotesque pro-WWIII Russia collusion narrative.

Uygur is a special kind of bottom-feeding mega-sleazy warhawking conservative scum, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised that liberals love him so much: if he didn't have a penis, he'd be Hillary.

A completely disgusting excuse for a human being.

:hm
 
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Obscurity said:
Cenk isn't my cup of tea. But, he fights for what he believes
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So? What he believes is absurd, as evidenced by the tweet.

What he "believes" has also changed radically, and one might be forgiven for concluding the change was cynical and opportunistic.

which is more than I can say for essentially all the republicans and 99% of the democrats in office.

The NRA is a corrupt institution.
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Great. Thread's about Cenk.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Google “The Young Turks” and click the first result that isn’t Cenk’s network.

Yeah it only took him until 2019 to actually say the Armenian Genocide happened, sorry I wasn’t so up to date when he spent his entire life espousing denial until this year.
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He's been on the record since at least 2017, which you really should know if you're interested in using the attack. And it's a pretty weak attack, frankly, used by people who couldn't locate Turkey on a map.

Graham blocks resolution recognizing Armenian genocide after Erdoğan meeting | TheHill

If that's all you have, I'd say Cenk's chances of winning are pretty good.
 
Dans La Lune said:
He's been on the record since at least 2017, which you really should know if you're interested in using the attack. And it's a pretty weak attack, frankly, used by people who couldn't locate Turkey on a map.

Graham blocks resolution recognizing Armenian genocide after Erdoğan meeting | TheHill

If that's all you have, I'd say Cenk's chances of winning are pretty good.
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Well having been on board with actual history since like 2000, allow me to welcome him late to the party.

He probably just got tired of being criticized for it and decided to go “ok fine I’ll say actual history actually happened”.

I have no doubt he’ll win. A Democrat Can shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and as long as they say the “orange man bad” they’ll get elected in a liberal district
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Well having been on board with actual history since like 2000, allow me to welcome him late to the party.
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Great. Now recognize that America's founders were slave-raping, genocidal maniacs. Do you celebrate Thanks Giving? Be bold while you're on your high-horse, moral pedestal, "since like 2000".

Also explain Lindsey Graham blocking an Armenian genocide acknowledgment resolution after meeting with Erdogan.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Harshaw brought the NRA and McConnell into this discussion.
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No, I didn't. I brought in a tweet, from yesterday, by Cenk, that mentioned them, and I explained why Cenk is both ignorant and absurd.

Cenk is very much a Rush Limbaugh of the left (these days, anyway); he says inflammatory, hyperpartisan, highly dubious things and draws in, like moths to a flame, exactly the same kind of people as Limbaugh -- hyperpartisans who crave the confirmation bias and don't really want to think about things very hard.
 
Harshaw said:
No, I didn't. I brought in a tweet, from yesterday, by Cenk, that mentioned them, and I explained why Cenk is both ignorant and absurd.

Cenk is very much a Rush Limbaugh of the left (these days, anyway); he says inflammatory, hyperpartisan, highly dubious things and draws in, like moths to a flame, exactly the same kind of people as Limbaugh -- hyperpartisans who crave the confirmation bias and don't really want to think about things very hard.
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Liberals more than the left, but yes.

A very special kind of scum.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Liberals more than the left, but yes.
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No, the left. I don't think mainstream liberals, even if they lean left, are all that fond of him.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Harshaw brought the NRA and McConnell into this discussion.
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Harshaw said:
No, I didn't. I brought in a tweet, from yesterday, by Cenk, that mentioned them
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So...you didn't bring the NRA and McConnell into the conversation when...you brought into the conversation a tweet about NRA and McConnell which you then spent no less than four paragraphs discussing...Okay. ;)

As far as Cenk goes, I was introduced to the Young Turks long ago when I came across a couple of their videos while trying to find other information. Like Harshaw, I found him to be little more than a blowhard and consider him essentially to be the Hannity/Limbaugh on the Democratic side, though with far less support than either Hannity or Limbaugh. I've actively avoided his videos since.

Long story short, I do not care much for him based on the very little I heard long ago.
 
Slyfox696 said:
So...you didn't bring the NRA and McConnell into the conversation when...you brought into the conversation a tweet about NRA and McConnell which you then spent no less than four paragraphs discussing...Okay. ;)
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Yes, that's exactly what I did -- discussed why Cenk is ignorant and absurd in what he said, which is what I said in the rest of my post that you snipped out.


As far as Cenk goes, I was introduced to the Young Turks long ago when I came across a couple of their videos while trying to find other information. Like Harshaw, I found him to be little more than a blowhard and consider him essentially to be the Hannity/Limbaugh on the Democratic side, though with far less support than either Hannity or Limbaugh. I've actively avoided his videos since.

Long story short, I do not care much for him based on the very little I heard long ago.
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Looks like we have an area of agreement, then. :peace
 
Slyfox696 said:
So...you didn't bring the NRA and McConnell into the conversation when...you brought into the conversation a tweet about NRA and McConnell which you then spent no less than four paragraphs discussing...Okay. ;)

As far as Cenk goes, I was introduced to the Young Turks long ago when I came across a couple of their videos while trying to find other information. Like Harshaw, I found him to be little more than a blowhard and consider him essentially to be the Hannity/Limbaugh on the Democratic side, though with far less support than either Hannity or Limbaugh. I've actively avoided his videos since.

Long story short, I do not care much for him based on the very little I heard long ago.
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But now that you mention it, he probably is more strongly analogous to Hannity.
 
Harshaw said:
Yeah, Cenk tweeted just today:



There's so much stupid in this, it's hard to know where to start unpacking.

First, not one thing about what the kid did to shoot in that school was legal. He obtained the gun illegally. He carried it illegally. He used it illegally. That he succeeded had nothing to do with a lack of gun control; everything he did with that gun, including obtaining it, was illegal. The gun control was there.

California already has every bit of gun control that Cenk is blasting McConnell for supposedly blocking, and every bit of "common sense gun control" that advocates insist is all they want.

The idea that there's "no gun control at all" is completely and entirely detached from reality.

And the entire diatribe about the NRA and its money is based on the absurd premise that BUT FOR NRA bribe money, there's a whole army of politicians, especially in conservative states and rural areas, who would otherwise be eager to enact strict gun laws, but no, they've got NRA gravy, so they don't.

Cenk is not a politically serious person.
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‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
 
Harshaw said:
No, I didn't. I brought in a tweet, from yesterday, by Cenk, that mentioned them, and I explained why Cenk is both ignorant and absurd.
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To my point, you definitely brought the NRA and McConnell into this thread.

Cenk is very much a Rush Limbaugh of the left (these days, anyway); he says inflammatory, hyperpartisan, highly dubious things and draws in, like moths to a flame, exactly the same kind of people as Limbaugh -- hyperpartisans who crave the confirmation bias and don't really want to think about things very hard.
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The difference is that Cenk is honest, thoughtful, consistent and fights for progressive issues, Hannity and Limbaugh are corrupt liars, hypocrites and worse. Cenk is in-your-face against corruption, whereas Limbaugh is in-your-face about feminism, equality, racial issues, etc. Don't confuse style with substance.
 
Harshaw said:
That doesn't speak to anything I said, but whatevs.
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I don't see you offering alternatives. Its clear to most impartial outsiders that the NRA has a stranglehold on the US.
 
Higgins86 said:
I don't see you offering alternatives. Its clear to most impartial outsiders that the NRA has a stranglehold on the US.
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Why would I need to? If you want to buy into Cenk's absurdity, don't let me stop you.
 
Harshaw said:
No, the left. I don't think mainstream liberals, even if they lean left, are all that fond of him.
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Absolutely not.

The left DESPISES him, and rightly so.

Liberals ADORE him.

He's complete scum.
 
Dans La Lune said:
To my point, you definitely brought the NRA and McConnell into this thread.
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Only insofar as related to Cenk's tweet. My post was entirely about Cenk, who, as you know, is the subject of this thread.


The difference is that Cenk is honest, thoughtful"
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Sycophants of Limbaugh and Hannity think that about them, too.

Meanwhile, I just showed an example of how he's neither.


consistent and fights for progressive issues
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Consistent? He used to present as a hardass conservative who published a host of sexist rules for women dating him.

Then I guess he decided he'd get more traction as a "reformed" "progressive." He's had a little success at it, I suppose.


Hannity and Limbaugh are corrupt liars, hypocrites and worse. Cenk is in-your-face against corruption, whereas Limbaugh is in-your-face about feminism, equality, racial issues, etc. Don't confuse style with substance.
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Cenk's style and substance are exactly of a piece with Limbaugh and Hannity. Maybe someday you'll see that. Meanwhile, enjoy the comfort of confirmation bias, I guess.
 
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