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[W:216, 238]Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

braindrain said:
You mean like the DNC emails that were released by wikileaks that the left tried to ignore because of who leaked them.
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I wasn't on DP back then, but I don't remember the left ignoring the DNC emails. There were questions about how the emails were obtained and released.
 
Nalu said:
We know how Miller's emails got released. The woman he sent them to gave them to the SPLC.
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And we know how the DNC emails were released.

That didn't stop the left from making that the point rather then what was in the emails.
 
Nalu said:
I wasn't on DP back then, but I don't remember the left ignoring the DNC emails. There were questions about how the emails were obtained and released.
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And that was the only thing the most of the left was concerned about. Not what the emails actually said. And the fact that they showed obvious corruption by the DNC. The only thing that really matters is how they were leaked.
 
braindrain said:
And we know how the DNC emails were released.

That didn't stop the left from making that the point rather then what was in the emails.
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That's not what happened. The emails did get discussed. To death. Especially by the left. The Bernie Bros are still pissed at the DNC. The bigger story, though, was how the emails were obtained and released. Both aspects of the story got covered.
 
braindrain said:
And that was the only thing the most of the left was concerned about. Not what the emails actually said. And the fact that they showed obvious corruption by the DNC. The only thing that really matters is how they were leaked.
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Yeah, no. Please see post 279.
 
Nalu said:
That's not what happened. The emails did get discussed. To death. Especially by the left. The Bernie Bros are still pissed at the DNC. The bigger story, though, was how the emails were obtained and released. Both aspects of the story got covered.
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Hardly.
The major taking point was how they were released.
And it went on and on.

They may have been both covered by it was no where near equal coverage. Not even close
 
braindrain said:
Hardly.
The major taking point was how they were released.
And it went on and on.

They may have been both covered by it was no where near equal coverage. Not even close
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So what if it wasn't? Why are you acting like the Democrats didn't deal with the emails and address them? They did. And why are you acting like the emails were a bigger deal than Wikileaks hacking a national political committee in order to influence an American presidential election? They weren't. Everyone knew the DNC was corrupt and that Clinton had anointed herself the heir apparent and gotten the DNC to get on board. They got busted. And in what world does equal coverage between these 2 things matter? Both things were discussed. Both things had impacts. Now they're done and this "comparison" (?) that you're trying to draw with the SPLC doesn't work. There are no similarities between the DNC story and Miller story except emails.
 
braindrain said:
Sorry but you saying it doesn't make it true
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No, but history does. Why don't you deal with Miller for a minute? He's what we're talking about.
 
Nalu said:
So what if it wasn't? Why are you acting like the Democrats didn't deal with the emails and address them? They did. And why are you acting like the emails were a bigger deal than Wikileaks hacking a national political committee in order to influence an American presidential election? They weren't. Everyone knew the DNC was corrupt and that Clinton had anointed herself the heir apparent and gotten the DNC to get on board. They got busted. And in what world does equal coverage between these 2 things matter? Both things were discussed. Both things had impacts. Now they're done and this "comparison" (?) that you're trying to draw with the SPLC doesn't work. There are no similarities between the DNC story and Miller story except emails.
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Than you for proving your bias.

So please tell me exactly how did the Democrats deal with those emails. Last I checked Hillary still ended up being the left candidate. So what exactly did the DNC do.

The emails were about the DNC completely hijacking the election and fixing the system to get the person they wanted into office no matter what the people wanted. They had way more of an effect of the election then wikileaks ever did.
An outside entity exposing those efforts should be applauded. Tell me when the UN exposes a third world country dictator using corruption to win an election, who are you not mad at. The dictator or the UN. The fact that we both know you will not say the dictator but yet blame wikileaks for exposing the corruption of the DNC is a perfect example of why you are to board to be taken seriously on this topic.

And no not everyone one knew the DNC was corrupt. In fact most democrats still to this day deny that it is corrupt. Your grasping for straws.

If you are to biased to see the similarities between the left handling the wikileaks emails and the right handling the Miller emails that that is not my problem.
 
Nalu said:
No, but history does. Why don't you deal with Miller for a minute? He's what we're talking about.
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Miller is a POS and should never have a position of power. And that includes the power to be a postman in a town of 200.
How does that change anything you or I were talking about.

Just because you are not able to see problems with the left does not mean everyone else has the same issue.

And for what it's worth I support more left leaning positions then right.

I am just not a blind partisan.
 
braindrain said:
Than you for proving your bias.

So please tell me exactly how did the Democrats deal with those emails. Last I checked Hillary still ended up being the left candidate. So what exactly did the DNC do.

The emails were about the DNC completely hijacking the election and fixing the system to get the person they wanted into office no matter what the people wanted. They had way more of an effect of the election then wikileaks ever did.
An outside entity exposing those efforts should be applauded. Tell me when the UN exposes a third world country dictator using corruption to win an election, who are you not mad at. The dictator or the UN. The fact that we both know you will not say the dictator but yet blame wikileaks for exposing the corruption of the DNC is a perfect example of why you are to board to be taken seriously on this topic.

And no not everyone one knew the DNC was corrupt. In fact most democrats still to this day deny that it is corrupt. Your grasping for straws.

If you are to biased to see the similarities between the left handling the wikileaks emails and the right handling the Miller emails that that is not my problem.
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What bias? I'm not a Democrat. I'm not grasping for anything. You're obsessing over a completely non-germane and unrelated incident from years ago. You have yet to address the subject of this thread. It's honestly the lamest, most overplayed tactic in this forum. "But Democrats" doesn't change anything. There is no comparison because no one is questioning how SPLC got the emails. So you go ahead and keep comparing Wikileaks to UN electoral assistance and defending what Wikileaks did to the DNC in a thread in 2019 about Stephen Miller.
 
braindrain said:
Miller is a POS and should never have a position of power. And that includes the power to be a postman in a town of 200.
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Ah. Finally. We agree.

How does that change anything you or I were talking about.

Just because you are not able to see problems with the left does not mean everyone else has the same issue.

And for what it's worth I support more left leaning positions then right.

I am just not a blind partisan.
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What kind of half-baked bull**** is that? I criticize the left every single day. If you don't know who you're talking to, maybe don't make **** up about him.
 
The amount of intense stretching this kind of article needed to be even remotely connected to actual white-nationalism, is probably something to be recorded as legend.
 
Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

HenryChinaski said:
Trump's zombies don't care. Some will openly applaud. Some will deny it and say "fake news", and the rest will acknowledge it but play it down.
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While Epstein zombies like yourself will just say the same tired lies as usual?

At least try to give legitimate debate a try for once.
 
Oborosen said:
The amount of intense stretching this kind of article needed to be even remotely connected to actual white-nationalism, is probably something to be recorded as legend.
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Miller's a white supremacist. That's not a stretch of anything.
 
Nalu said:
Miller's a white supremacist. That's not a stretch of anything.
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Okay, show me at least one of his own stances that makes him as such. That should be easy enough.
 
I know full well that I'm either not going to get an intellectually sound response, or I'm just not going to get an answer at all.
 
Oborosen said:
I know full well that I'm either not going to get an intellectually sound response, or I'm just not going to get an answer at all.
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If you're talking about me, then talk to me. What is this? Middle school?
 
Nalu said:
Why won't the mainstream media tell the truth about racist ghoul Stephen Miller? | Salon.com
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So a hopped up opinion piece is all you could produce. One that doesn't even explain anything as a white-supremacist stance, and just calls them as such.

Then again, I asked you to supply something and you had to post an article that can't even supply it's own evidence. So I really shouldn't be surprised in all of this.

Let's try this again, what has he said, or done that is a white-supremacist stance?

Because as of now, all the things listed in the article are being called as such, without addressing how they line up as such.
 
Nalu said:
If you're talking about me, then talk to me. What is this? Middle school?
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I have such an assumption, because I ran into enough of this with people trying to claim a multitude of other people as either being racist, or white-supremacist.

Here's a news flash, just because you make a claim about someone. That doesn't make the claim true. Because one would need t prove something is actually such a stance.
 
Nalu said:
Why won't the mainstream media tell the truth about racist ghoul Stephen Miller? | Salon.com
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You know what, here. I'll play the same game that everyone else in this idiotic camp plays.

Salon - Media Bias/Fact Check

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.
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Aside from using all the loaded language, and actually supplying nothing but allegation. I don't really know what else you expected from posting such a blatant hit piece as anything other than a trumped up lie.

Hell, the damn thing marks actions that the mans hand access to as racist actions. When they had absolutely nothing to do with race.
 
Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

D_NATURED said:
How about where it says:

"Some of the findings published by the SPLC include evidence that Miller pushed links from white supremacist site VDARE as an editorial basis for Breitbart articles, including links to articles about conspiracy theories such as "white genocide," which claims nonwhite people are trying to eliminate the white race."

Did you miss that?
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Nope, didn't miss it, don't put much stock in it either, but regardless, YOU said the Story was that high government officials (aka Miller) DREW their data FROM white supremacist sites, and when I said you got the story wrong, you put forth a quote that says Miller PUSHED linkes etc....completely opposite of what you claim.

I didn't click on ALL the links in that article, I did click on the one from Vdare where McHugh asks if there was precedent for TPS from hurricanes etc, seems to me, he wasn't pushing a view either way, just answering her question with a link that showed there was precedent.
 
uptower said:
Sorry are we trying to pretend Miller is not a racist here?

Tell you what. If Miller recommended Camp of the Saints as a trashy piece of racist propaganda that people should find abhorrent, he's not a bigot. If he recommended it as a really good read, he's a bigot. Which is it?
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Not all, but it does seem like we are pretending SLPC is involved in journalism...

Tell you what, you show me where he recommended Camp of Saints as a REALLY GOOD READ...and then, you might have something....

I'll wait here for you.
 
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