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    Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Notice how you were persuaded of that article’s authenticity?
    That
    LOL might wanna try again in English....but you are right, being persuaded one way or the other about the article's authenticity is exactly the same as journalism.

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    Re: [W:216, 238]Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitb

    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    The amount of intense stretching this kind of article needed to be even remotely connected to actual white-nationalism, is probably something to be recorded as legend.
    not to anyone who actually read it
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    Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmay View Post
    LOL might wanna try again in English....but you are right, being persuaded one way or the other about the article's authenticity is exactly the same as journalism.
    is actually the same as "persuasion"
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    Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    is actually the same as "persuasion"
    Well since you are talking in riddles,

    It's amusing that you find persuasion and authenticity the same....one can have an absolutely persuasive argument, be torpedoed because they aren't authentic. But you keep on believing everything that you are biased to believe.

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    Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You know for years I was a member of St. Andrews Episcopal Church here in Kansas City. As a percentage of the church's revenue, it was easily the most charitable parish in the city supporting a school and clinic in Haiti, a school and clinic on a reservation in ND, various local antipoverty programs and so on. The church does an amazing amount of good work both in the community and abroad. They do all that, and they don't lobby against same sex marriage. They don't lobby against anti-discrimination laws for the LGBT community. They don't try to convert gays and lesbians. They don't do any of those things, yet they manage to do incredible amount of good work, and of course teach scripture and worship God.
    So do the people that you label bigots. imagine that.

    My point is that there are Christians and Christian organizations all over the world that do a lot of good work while also not lobbying to treat gays and lesbians as second class citizens. Focus on the Family is not called a hate group because it's Christian or has some charities it supports. It is called a hate group because it has a long history expending a lot of money and energy towards treating gays and lesbians at best as second class citizens in this country, and at worst as an abomination.
    Your opinion. not believing in gay marriage does not make one a hate group.
    that is a cool thing about opinions you are allowed to have them and other people get to disagree.

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    Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmay View Post
    Well since you are talking in riddles,

    It's amusing that you find persuasion and authenticity the same....one can have an absolutely persuasive argument, be torpedoed because they aren't authentic. But you keep on believing everything that you are biased to believe.
    the point is you were persuaded of the authenticity of said article. you acknowledged that to be true

    as an aside, no riddles included; assume when i post that the reader is adept at the english language. i am not writing for those whose grasp of english is less than that of their first language
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    Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    So do the people that you label bigots. imagine that.



    Your opinion. not believing in gay marriage does not make one a hate group.
    that is a cool thing about opinions you are allowed to have them and other people get to disagree.
    You realize there is a huge difference between a church refusing to recognize a same sex marriage, and a church actively campaigning against the state recognizing same sex marriage. Surely you can see the difference.
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    Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You realize there is a huge difference between a church refusing to recognize a same sex marriage, and a church actively campaigning against the state recognizing same sex marriage. Surely you can see the difference.
    Absolutely, why do you root that behaviour in hate?

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    Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmay View Post
    Absolutely, why do you root that behaviour in hate?
    A church that refuses to recognize same sex marriage on the basis of scripture is basing their actions on how they interpret their religious texts.

    That is in stark difference to a church that not only refuses to recognize same sex marriage, they want the government to not recognize them either. That is bigotry and discrimination no matter how you slice it.
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    Re: Emails show White House advisor Stephen Miller promoting white nationalism to Breitbart

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    A church that refuses to recognize same sex marriage on the basis of scripture is basing their actions on how they interpret their religious texts.

    That is in stark difference to a church that not only refuses to recognize same sex marriage, they want the government to not recognize them either. That is bigotry and discrimination no matter how you slice it.
    Ok, so you are saying that a church who doesn't act on their belief is not bigoted or discriminatory, but a church who does is?

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