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'Not only is impeachment dead on arrival, there's a risk that the Senate doesn't even take it up,' M

MauiMan said:
They sure don’t look or sound desperate. The republicans, however, are engaged in deflection. They want you to ignore the man behind the curtain.
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I don't want you to ignore the Great and Powerful Schiff.

On second thought, do that and end this farce.
 
Jay59 said:
Wow. Media that hates Trump. How novel.

By any rational standard, he has been a good President. TDS victims are not rational.
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Scholarly articles are not the media.
 
Jay59 said:
I don't want you to ignore the Great and Powerful Schiff.

On second thought, do that and end this farce.
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He’s not stonewalling like Trump. If Trump had something exonerating he would be tweeting it constantly...but all he has is the "perfect" phone call, and "there was no quid pro quo". We’re past that now.
 
MauiMan said:
He’s not stonewalling like Trump. If Trump had something exonerating he would be tweeting it constantly...but all he has is the "perfect" phone call, and "there was no quid pro quo". We’re past that now.
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I saw some man who works on the Trump campaign try to respin that into "perfectly normal" or something like that.
 
Nalu said:
I saw some man who works on the Trump campaign try to respin that into "perfectly normal" or something like that.
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An "apprentice" to the "stable genius”.
 
Anthony60 said:
See, you see something that’s not there, but you (the collective Trump haters) desperately want it to be there. First, “do me a favor “, is just a figure of speech, used all the time. Means nothing here. And besides that, he never says anything at all about, do this thing for me, then I’ll give you this thing. Completely missing. The quid and the quo. Can’t have a quid pro quo without those. Sorry.


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"Do me a favor" is a figure of speech for when people want to be given something in return for doing something.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Just listen to the candidates and see if they support socialist programs and big government no longer protecting our rights but dolling them out as government granted privileges. The new American dream is dependence on government by the majority of the population. I wouldn't be so against all these socialist programs except they benefit those who outright refuse to contribute and penalize the truly hard working. Even their single payer has people still depending on insurance companies who provide nothing except syphon off the money needed for health care to keep billionaires flying around in private jets while the truly needy are still deciding between food and medicine. Just look at Medicare. The people on it still have to buy insurance to get health care. While the insurance companies taking their money are getting rich. I could go on all day but the moronic crap is what those candidates are trying to sell us.
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Another edition of "Conservatives attacking Socialism by once again describing Capitalism."
 
Jay59 said:
If by popular mandate you mean elected, then you are wrong. The will of the people made Donald Trump President.

It seems that you are complaining that your team had more yards, so that it should not matter that they did not score as many points. That's not the way the rules work. However, you are invited to tray again this season. The game is in 51 weeks.
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That's laughable. To be "the will of the people" he would have to have received more votes than his opponent. The will of the people isn't an archaic system designed as a compromise during America's slave era.

Nobody is saying Trump didn't "win" according to the rules (Russian interference not withstanding.) It's just that you can't claim that he won because the 'people' preferred him over Mrs. Clinton.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
My problem with Trump's request is that Trump asked Zelenskyy to trade a sale of more javelin missiles (an official act or asset of the U.S. government) in EXCHANGE for an investigation into one of his main political opponents in an upcoming election (a personal benefit).

This is WRONG. This is immoral. This unethical. It is also a violation of the Constitution in that Trump's action, in requesting a personal benefit in exchange for an official act, representing an abuse of office, is one of the things that can get a President impeached as per the Constitution's impeachment clause.
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Your problem is you hate Trump and that is the bottom line. You buy what the media tells you and ignore the reality of what actually happened. You want Trump out of office at any cost including a bogus impeachment charge that is going nowhere and won't remove Trump. Hearsay isn't going to win any court case and you know it. Keep up the partisan bs and watch the Democrats get their ass handed to them. You want Trump out of office you are going to have to defeat him at the ballot box and there isn't a Democrat running worth the vote
 
iguanaman said:
Your "country" has a Constitution and laws that you choose to ignore without thinking what the consequences will be for future Presidents. Do you want all Presidents to use their powers to seek foreign help in their election? Because that is what Trump is saying that he can endanger out national security in order to get political dirt on his opponents. Do you want all Presidents to take their orders from Putin and other dictators instead of our own interests? You need to think about that before you let your partisan BS think for you. Erdogan is coming to see Trump soon and the last time he talked to him he ordered our troops to stand down while Turkey invaded Syria and attacked out allies. What will he give up this time?
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You have a cafeteria approach to the Constitution picking and choosing what you want to enforce and making up issues that suit your radical agenda. It is so sad to see so many people promoting hatred and still trying to overturn the 2016 election and watching them run from the real issues that affect Americans. Your Russian phobia is scary and Cold War revisiting. I feel so sorry for people like you who have been duped by an ideology, easily indoctrinated by radicals and so full of hatred over non issues. Russia didn't change my vote, Hillary did. Impeaching the President over Ukraine shows just how intellectually dishonest the radicals are today and you will find out in November just how out of touch you are with reality
 
Conservative said:
Your problem is you hate Trump and that is the bottom line. You buy what the media tells you and ignore the reality of what actually happened. You want Trump out of office at any cost including a bogus impeachment charge that is going nowhere and won't remove Trump. Hearsay isn't going to win any court case and you know it. Keep up the partisan bs and watch the Democrats get their ass handed to them. You want Trump out of office you are going to have to defeat him at the ballot box and there isn't a Democrat running worth the vote
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/// Your problem is you....../// Putting YOUR words into OTHER'S mouths, and trying, and failing to tell them what THEY think is NOT an effective debating tactic.
 
Grand Mal said:
Your Dear Leader has been proven in court to be a fraud and thief. He was slapped with a $25 million judgement in that Trump Universty fraud and fined $2 million for siphoning off money raised to benefit veterans and using it for his campaign. Some of that money was also used to buy Tim Tebow memorabilia at auction (11 grand if I remember right) and 10 thou was used to commission a portrait of himself. Money raised for charity, for veterans.
This is ridiculous. That kind of thing used to be, and still should be, career suicide for a politician and here you guys are defending the most corrupt shyster and scammer to ever pollute the Oval Office.
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What is ridiculous is that you ignore the results being generated and the fact that Hillary lost the election in 2016 so you keep going back to the past, ignoring the present, and offering nothing positive for the future. This entire impeachment effort is going nowhere but it does allow people like you to vent about the past and ignore the present and the disastrous Democratic Candidates running for office and what they offer the American people, socialism, massive central gov't, wealth redistribution, class warfare, jealousy, hatred. and division. Polluting the oval office is what Democrats have done for years supporting one of the most corrupt Administrations in history, Obama and Chicago politics. Keep burying your head in the sand and keep losing national elections
 
element94 said:
Yeah, if you didn't know what Trump was before he was president, your cluelessness will not hold up when he falls. Unfortunately for the majority that didn't vote for him, this frivolous country got the president it deserved. I think there were a lot of people that did vote for him, or didn't vote at all that were actually shocked with each new outrage this effing moron put the country through. Absolutely laughable.
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LOL, yes, the socialists, illegals, and homeless of California didn't get to elect the President even though they gave Hillary a 3 million vote win in the state. Our Founders in their wisdom realized that power corrupts and states with massive population that can easily be manipulated could make a mockery of our Presidential elections. It is enough ti gave people like Pelosi, Schiff, Waters, Harris in gov't but the state of California will never elect the President of the United States and implement that California nanny state policies making us a third world country
 
Anthony60 said:
That takes a little more thought on your part. Hope you figure it out.
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It's really quite easy to figure out. If he is innocent he should have problem releasing documents and allowing witnesses to give depositions and testify. Then it's over.
 
Parrish said:
It's really quite easy to figure out. If he is innocent he should have problem releasing documents and allowing witnesses to give depositions and testify. Then it's over.
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Why? just let the democrats bury themselves by letting the country see just how radical they are

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Anthony60 said:
It's a place were the truth is restricted, they make the rules, and bend them in their favor.
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You appear to be unware that:

1) Donald J. Trump has told more than 13,000 lies in a little over 2.5 years.
President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...as-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

2) Donald J. Trump incorrectly believes that Article II allows he to do "whatever he wants.:
Trump claimed Article 2 of the Constitution gives him the right to do 'whatever I want as president,' but that's not true
Trump falsely says Constitution gives him unlimited power as president - Business Insider

So, tell us again who has no regard for the truth and who is bending the rules in their favor?

You really jut stuck your foot in your mouth, how can you be this clueless? It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Grand Mal said:
Your Dear Leader has been proven in court to be a fraud and thief. He was slapped with a $25 million judgement in that Trump Universty fraud and fined $2 million for siphoning off money raised to benefit veterans and using it for his campaign. Some of that money was also used to buy Tim Tebow memorabilia at auction (11 grand if I remember right) and 10 thou was used to commission a portrait of himself. Money raised for charity, for veterans.
This is ridiculous. That kind of thing used to be, and still should be, career suicide for a politician and here you guys are defending the most corrupt shyster and scammer to ever pollute the Oval Office.
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he wasn't slapped with a 25 million dollar judgement that is a lie. so while you are ranting about lying you might want to make sure you are not doing it.
Trump University settled with the state instead of a pro-longed legal. with the settlement they admitted to no wrong doing and it was agreed by the state.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Mods the entire headline would not fit in the title box.

So Shifty has been warned!! Stop playing partisan games or your 3rd attempt to remove the president
will end in a grand fashion. Failure once again. Senator McConnell will see to that! :peace


'Not only is impeachment dead on arrival, there's a risk that the Senate doesn't even take it up,' Matt Whitaker says

'''Not only is impeachment dead on arrival, there'''s a risk that the Senate doesn'''t even take it up,''' Matt Whitaker says | Fox News

Former Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker backed Sen. Lindsey Graham’s assertion that the House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry will be “dead on arrival” if it’s not conducted fairly before it reaches the Senate.

“Not only is it dead on arrival, there’s a risk that the Senate doesn’t even take it up as it is a completely partisan exercise where [there are] only Democrat witnesses, only Democrats’ votes, and Republicans’ rights to due process and fairness are not honored,” Whitaker told “Outnumbered Overtime.”

Graham, R-S.C., accused House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., of not caring about the truth, and said Schiff’s impeachment efforts would go nowhere unless he called the anonymous whistleblower to come forward and testify about the complaint against President Trump.

“It’s impossible to bring this case forward, in my view, fairly, without us knowing who the whistleblower is and having a chance to cross-examine them about any biases they may have,” he said. “So, if they don’t call the whistleblower in the House, this thing is dead on arrival in the Senate.” Senator Graham
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Lindsey Graham doesnt have say on if it is taken up....Mitch McConnell already said they are required to take it up and will do so.
 
ludin said:
he wasn't slapped with a 25 million dollar judgement that is a lie. so while you are ranting about lying you might want to make sure you are not doing it.
Trump University settled with the state instead of a pro-longed legal. with the settlement they admitted to no wrong doing and it was agreed by the state.
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Why would he settle if he was not doing anything wrong?
 
SLC said:
Have you ever seen how much a legal case like that can cost?
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Didn't Trump say he doesn't settle, and that people who settle are saying they did something wrong?

I can get the quote if you want
 
ClaraD said:
Why would he settle if he was not doing anything wrong?
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why do most company settle most lawsuits? It is cheaper to pay the settlement and get it over with than years
and years of costly legal battles.

At the time also he was on the campaign trail as well for president and didn't have time to engage in any major legal proceeding.
however the state accepted the no wrongdoing clause of the settlement and that is all there is too it.

however the point is the person that posted it lied when he said that it got slapped with a 25m judgement.
there was not a judgement issued.
 
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