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President Trump: Congratulations on a great victory. We all watched from the United States and you did a terrific job. The way you came from behind, somebody who wasn't given much of a chance, and you ended up winning easily. It's a fantastic achievement. Congratulations.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky: You are absolutely right Mr. President. We did win big and we worked hard for this. We worked a lot but I would like to confess to you that I had an opportunity to learn from you. We used quite a few of your skills and knowledge and were able to use it as an example for our elections and yes it is true that these were unique elections. We were in a unique situation that we were able to achieve a unique success. I'm able to tell you the following: the first time, you called me to congratulate me when I won my presidential election, and the second time you are now calling me when my party won the parliamentary election. I think I should run more often so you can call me more often and we can talk over the phone more often.

Trump: [laughter] That's a very good idea. I think your country is very happy about that.

Zelensky: Well yes, to tell you the truth, we are trying to work hard because we wanted to drain the swamp here in our country. We brought in many, many new people. Not the old politicians, not the typical politicians, because we want to have a new format and a new type of government. You are a great teacher for us and in that.

Trump: Well it is very nice of you to say that. I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think it's something that you should really ask them about. When I was speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she doesn't do anything. A lot of the European countries are the same way so I think it's something you want to look at but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine.

Zelensky: Yes you are absolutely right. Not only 100%, but actually 1000% and I can tell you the following; I did talk to Angela Merkel and I did meet with her I also met and talked with Macron and I told them that they are not doing quite as much as they need to be doing on the issues with the sanctions. They are not enforcing the sanctions. They are not working as much as they should work for Ukraine. It turns out that even though logically, the European Union should be our biggest partner but technically the United States is a much bigger partner than the European Union and I'm very grateful to you for that because the United States is doing quite a lot for Ukraine. Much more than the European Union especially when we are talking about sanctions against the Russian Federation. I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you said yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible.
 
Zelensky: Yes it is very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more. I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I surround myself with the best and most experienced people. I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly. That I can assure you.

Trump: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it...It sounds horrible to me.

Zelensky: I wanted to tell you about the prosecutor. First of all I understand arid I'm knowledgeable about the situation. Since we have won the absolute majority in our Parliament; the next prosecutor general will be 100% my person, my candidate, who will be approved, by the parliament and will start as a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue. The issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and will work on the investigation of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have any additional information that you can provide to us it would be very helpful for the investigation to make sure that we justice in our country with regard to the Ambassador to the United States from Ukraine as far as I recall her name was Ivanovicli. It was great that you were the first one who told me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree with you 100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and she was on his side. She would not accept me as a new President well enough.

Trump: Well, she's going to go through some things. I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it out. I heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor so good luck with everything. Your economy is going to get better and better I predict. You have a lot of assets. It's a great country. I have many Ukrainian friends, they're incredible people.
 
Zelensky: I would like to tell you that I also have quite a few Ukrainian friends that live in the United States. Actually last time I traveled to the United States, I stated in New York near Central Park and I stayed at the Trump Tower. I will talk to them and I hope to see them again in the future. I also wanted to thank you for your invitation to visit the United States, specifically Washington DC. On the other hand, I also wanted to ensure you that we will be very serious about the case and will work on the investigation. As to the economy, there is much potential for our two countries and one of the issues that is very important for Ukraine is energy independence. I believe we can be very successful and cooperating on energy independence with United States. We are already working on cooperation. We are buying American oil but I am very hopeful for a future meeting. We will have more time and more opportunities to discuss these opportunities and get to know each other better. I would like to thank you very much for your support.

Trump: Good. Well., thank you very much and I appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would like to come to the White House, feel free to call. Give us a date and we'll work that out. I look forward to seeing you.

Zelensky: Thank you very much. I would be very happy to come and would be happy to meet with you personally and get to know you better. I am looking forward to our meeting and I would also like to invite you to visit Ukraine and come to the city of Kiev which is a beautiful city. We have a beautiful country which would welcome you. On the other hand, I believe that on September 1 we will be in Poland and we can meet in Poland hopefully. After that it might be a very good idea for you to travel to Ukraine. We can either take my plane and go to Ukraine or we can take your plane, which is probably much better than mine.

Trump: Okay, we can work that out. I look forward to seeing you in Washington and maybe in Poland because I think we are going to be there at that time.

Zelensky: Thank you very much Mr. President.

Trump: Congratulations on a fantastic job you've done. The whole world was watching. I'm not sure it was so much of an upset but congratulations.

Zelensky: Thank you Mr. President bye-bye.
 
My attitude towards Trump is the result of my awareness of his actions. For instance, I'll give you one example, I am angry that his lawyers have argued in court that Trump is immune from criminal investigation. Does this not concern you that Trump thinks he is above the law?



I don't like waste, fraud, and corruption on anyone's part. That's why I support the whistleblower laws. Do you support the whistleblower laws?



There's lots of people that could replace him. What a silly assertion. We have 327 million citizens.



It is clear to me that you are not well acquainted with abstract things like the Rule of Law, and the U.S. Constitution, and our legal system in general, you only care about practical things. I think it may be a waste of my time to try and explain to you why the Rule of Law is important. It's certainly going to be a waste of my time if you are going to stubbornly resist learning anything new. My only advice is for you to set aside time and read about our history, our laws, the Constitution, and the histories of other peoples as well.

Have you ever been sued? Have you ever had to go to court? Have you ever had a dispute with your neighbor? There's so much about our lives that depend on the rule of law, and courts, and judges, and the constitutional order, and so on. Have you ever been a victim of a crime. Has anyone ever defrauded you? Imagine what your life be like if you had no reassurance that wrongdoers would get caught, that someone could just pay a bribe and whatever complaint you had would just vanish into thin air. This happens, every day, in places where the Rule of Law does not exist. We know what societies are like that do not have the Rule of Law. They are miserable places to live.

We have 327 million citizens, how many are running for office and who do you support? Your understanding of the Constitution and claims against Trump show how easy it is to indoctrinate a lot of people. Trump has done nothing wrong that has hurt you, your family, or the country. you hate Trump and that is the real problem here basic lack of civics understanding. Your Democratic House has done more harm to this country than Trump, Hell, Hillary did more to hurt the country than Trump has ever done. the results speak volumes, result you want to ignore and focus on a non issue, Ukraine

I see no reason to continue this discussion with you as your mind is made up. I am not the issue, I have indeed been in federal court and hearsay is never admissible nor are rumors, speculation, or opinions. you obviously have never been before a judge. This case has no merit. Why don't you focus on the rule of law and not what the media tells you
 
Zelensky: I would like to tell you that I also have quite a few Ukrainian friends that live in the United States. Actually last time I traveled to the United States, I stated in New York near Central Park and I stayed at the Trump Tower. I will talk to them and I hope to see them again in the future. I also wanted to thank you for your invitation to visit the United States, specifically Washington DC. On the other hand, I also wanted to ensure you that we will be very serious about the case and will work on the investigation. As to the economy, there is much potential for our two countries and one of the issues that is very important for Ukraine is energy independence. I believe we can be very successful and cooperating on energy independence with United States. We are already working on cooperation. We are buying American oil but I am very hopeful for a future meeting. We will have more time and more opportunities to discuss these opportunities and get to know each other better. I would like to thank you very much for your support.

Trump: Good. Well., thank you very much and I appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would like to come to the White House, feel free to call. Give us a date and we'll work that out. I look forward to seeing you.

Zelensky: Thank you very much. I would be very happy to come and would be happy to meet with you personally and get to know you better. I am looking forward to our meeting and I would also like to invite you to visit Ukraine and come to the city of Kiev which is a beautiful city. We have a beautiful country which would welcome you. On the other hand, I believe that on September 1 we will be in Poland and we can meet in Poland hopefully. After that it might be a very good idea for you to travel to Ukraine. We can either take my plane and go to Ukraine or we can take your plane, which is probably much better than mine.

Trump: Okay, we can work that out. I look forward to seeing you in Washington and maybe in Poland because I think we are going to be there at that time.

Zelensky: Thank you very much Mr. President.

Trump: Congratulations on a fantastic job you've done. The whole world was watching. I'm not sure it was so much of an upset but congratulations.

Zelensky: Thank you Mr. President bye-bye.

You are writing a lot of words or copying and pasting a lot of words trying to get rid of Trump, why? Looks like establishing a good relationship. None of those say what you want them to say and nothing is ever going to change your mind. Too bad you don't focus on your own party instead of focusing on a non issue. You will have a chance to get rid of Trump in November 2020, think that Impeachment is going to do it?
 
You are writing a lot of words or copying and pasting a lot of words trying to get rid of Trump, why? Looks like establishing a good relationship. None of those say what you want them to say and nothing is ever going to change your mind. Too bad you don't focus on your own party instead of focusing on a non issue. You will have a chance to get rid of Trump in November 2020, think that Impeachment is going to do it?

Happy to see you posting again....
 
Trump has done nothing wrong that has hurt you, your family, or the country. you hate Trump and that is the real problem here basic lack of civics understanding.

This is not true...

Trump's attacks on the Rule of Law, and his attacks on our institutions are doing profound, longlasting damage to our country. I think there is less of a direct impact than say, a cut in taxes or something, but I consider the Rule of Law and our Institutions to be more important in the run. The problem isn't those practical things like tax cuts, it's those abstract that Trump and his supporters are oblivious to, and are, in fact, MORE important than specific policy goals.

Your Democratic House has done more harm to this country than Trump, Hell, Hillary did more to hurt the country than Trump has ever done. the results speak volumes, result you want to ignore and focus on a non issue, Ukraine

I don't agree with everything either party does, but you have an obligation to accept what is done so long as it's done through the system our founding fathers created.

For some reason you believe Democratic policies are so terrible that it gives you and Trump the right to break the rules. Why so? What specific things can you point to that give you this right?

I see no reason to continue this discussion with you as your mind is made up. I am not the issue, I have indeed been in federal court and hearsay is never admissible nor are rumors, speculation, or opinions. you obviously have never been before a judge. This case has no merit. Why don't you focus on the rule of law and not what the media tells you

You don't know what you're talking about.

Rule 803. Exceptions to the Rule Against Hearsay | Federal Rules of Evidence | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
 
This is not true...

Trump's attacks on the Rule of Law, and his attacks on our institutions are doing profound, longlasting damage to our country. I think there is less of a direct impact than say, a cut in taxes or something, but I consider the Rule of Law and our Institutions to be more important in the run. The problem isn't those practical things like tax cuts, it's those abstract that Trump and his supporters are oblivious to, and are, in fact, MORE important than specific policy goals.



I don't agree with everything either party does, but you have an obligation to accept what is done so long as it's done through the system our founding fathers created.

For some reason you believe Democratic policies are so terrible that it gives you and Trump the right to break the rules. Why so? What specific things can you point to that give you this right?



You don't know what you're talking about.

Rule 803. Exceptions to the Rule Against Hearsay | Federal Rules of Evidence | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

Nothing you post would ever hold up in court, you are buying what you are being told, too bad hate drives your thought process. I do know exactly what I am talking about as I have experienced first hand hearsay and how it was handled in court. Going to stop here, we are done! Book smart street stupid people all over the place

By the way I grew up a staunch Democrat and probably have voted for more Democrats than you Republicans. This Democratic Party doesn't represent constitutional values or the country our founders created
 
You are writing a lot of words or copying and pasting a lot of words trying to get rid of Trump, why? Looks like establishing a good relationship. None of those say what you want them to say and nothing is ever going to change your mind. Too bad you don't focus on your own party instead of focusing on a non issue. You will have a chance to get rid of Trump in November 2020, think that Impeachment is going to do it?

You said I was reading into the transcript something that wasn't said.

Well, I just posted the transcript.

Explain to me why you think that when Trump said, "I would you to do us a favor though...", that somehow this was not an attempt on Trump's part to get Zelenskyy to trade an investigation into the Crowdstrike conspiracy theory in exchange for sale of more javelin missiles.

Explain it to me. Explain to me YOUR reasoning, not the rantings of idiots like Limbaugh or Hannity. I want YOUR reasoning as to why you think Trump was not trying to get Zelenskyy to investigate Crowdstrike in exchange for more javelin missile sales.

In addition, refer to the part where Trump says, "The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it...It sounds horrible to me.", and explain to me how this is not Trump tying an investigation into the Bidens to the sale of more javelin missiles. Explain to me YOUR reasoning. Don't talk to me about other crap like Clinton or the Democrats. Focus on the facts of this transcript.

What do you think I was reading into the transcript that wasn't said? Be specific
 
You said I was reading into the transcript something that wasn't said.

Well, I just posted the transcript.

Explain to me why you think that when Trump said, "I would you to do us a favor though...", that somehow this was not an attempt on Trump's part to get Zelenskyy to trade an investigation into the Crowdstrike conspiracy theory in exchange for sale of more javelin missiles.

Explain it to me. Explain to me YOUR reasoning, not the rantings of idiots like Limbaugh or Hannity. I want YOUR reasoning as to why you think Trump was not trying to get Zelenskyy to investigate Crowdstrike in exchange for more javelin missile sales.

In addition, refer to the part where Trump says, "The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it...It sounds horrible to me.", and explain to me how this is not Trump tying an investigation into the Bidens to the sale of more javelin missiles. Explain to me YOUR reasoning. Don't talk to me about other crap like Clinton or the Democrats. Focus on the facts of this transcript.

What do you think I was reading into the transcript that wasn't said? Be specific

The favor is your interpretation, your party is beating a dead horse and issue. As I recall the money was issued, why is this even an issue for you and not the economy and national security?
 
Nothing you post would ever hold up in court, you are buying what you are being told, too bad hate drives your thought process. I do know exactly what I am talking about as I have experienced first hand hearsay and how it was handled in court. Going to stop here, we are done! Book smart street stupid people all over the place

Your statement, that "hearsay is never admissible" is WRONG. You were WRONG. You don't know what you're talking about, and if you were an honest person you'd say something like, "You know what? I was wrong I was unaware of these exceptions to the rule against hearsay as it pertains to the federal rules of evidence."

Instead you're like F you and F this, bla bla.

Grow up, man.

By the way I grew up a staunch Democrat and probably have voted for more Democrats than you Republicans. This Democratic Party doesn't represent constitutional values or the country our founders created

I don't care that you hate Democrats. I care that you hate Democrats more than you love our Republic.
 
Watch the House committee hearing today, or a recording of it. A good start would be the phone call transcript which recording Trump saying, "I would like you to do us a favor though.." when Zelenskyy asked for more javelin missile sales.

The testimony of Sondland and Taylor from a few weeks ago is also particularly helpful to prove the case against Trump.



It is a profound abuse of office for a President to extort a foreign country into investigating one of his main political rivals in exchange for an official act or benefit from the U.S. government.

This idea, that a public official should refrain from engaging in acts of corruption, has nothing to do with the Democratic or Republican parties. It's a non-partisan issue.

As Nicholas Kristof writes:
Suppose that a low-ranking government official, the head of a branch Social Security office, intervened to halt a widow’s long-approved Social Security payments. The widow, alarmed that without that income she might lose her home, would call the branch director to ask for help.

“I’d like you to do me a favor, though,” the director might respond. He would suggest that her Social Security payments could resume, but he’d like the widow to give him her late husband’s collection of rare coins.

Everybody would see that as an outrageous abuse of power. Whether we’re Republicans or Democrats, we would all recognize that it’s inappropriate for a federal official to use his or her power over government resources to extract personal benefits. The Social Security official could say that the payments eventually resumed, or assert that the widow’s son had engaged in skulduggery — but he’d be out of a job in an instant and would face a criminal investigation.
 
The favor is your interpretation, your party is beating a dead horse and issue

That's fine. I accept that. And I ask you this:

What other way can you interpret: "I WOULD LIKE TO DO US A FAVOR THOUGH"?

How gullible do you have to be to believe this wasn't a request for a favor. It's right there in front of you, but who are you gonna believe? Trump or your lyin eyes?
 
Your statement, that "hearsay is never admissible" is WRONG. You were WRONG. You don't know what you're talking about, and if you were an honest person you'd say something like, "You know what? I was wrong I was unaware of these exceptions to the rule against hearsay as it pertains to the federal rules of evidence."



I don't care that you hate Democrats. I care that you hate Democrats more than you love our Republic.

Hearsay will never convict anyone when it comes from someone who benefited or would benefit from prosecution. You want to get rid of Trump, we have elections to do that not trumped up charges that carry now weight. It is well within Trump's right to ask for a favor. Ukraine got the money what is your issue? why do you want U.S. taxpayer dollars to go to Ukraine in the first place?
 
That's fine. I accept that. And I ask you this:

What other way can you interpret: "I WOULD LIKE TO DO US A FAVOR THOUGH"?

How gullible do you have to be to believe this wasn't a request for a favor. It's right there in front of you, but who are you gonna believe? Trump or your lyin eyes?

Did Ukraine get the money? Did Trump have the authority to freeze the money? what exactly did Trump get from that so called favor?
 
Hearsay will never convict anyone when it comes from someone who benefited or would benefit from prosecution. You want to get rid of Trump, we have elections to do that not trumped up charges that carry now weight. It is well within Trump's right to ask for a favor. Ukraine got the money what is your issue? why do you want U.S. taxpayer dollars to go to Ukraine in the first place?

My problem with Trump's request is that Trump asked Zelenskyy to trade a sale of more javelin missiles (an official act or asset of the U.S. government) in EXCHANGE for an investigation into one of his main political opponents in an upcoming election (a personal benefit).

This is WRONG. This is immoral. This unethical. It is also a violation of the Constitution in that Trump's action, in requesting a personal benefit in exchange for an official act, representing an abuse of office, is one of the things that can get a President impeached as per the Constitution's impeachment clause.
 
Did Ukraine get the money? Did Trump have the authority to freeze the money? what exactly did Trump get from that so called favor?

So, it doesn't matter that Ukraine either did not receive the money or did receive the money.

Do bank robbers who fail to rob a bank and get caught go to prison?

Do people who attempt to murder someone and get caught go to prison?

It MATTERS that Trump did not have the authority to freeze the money and did so anyway, that's ANOTHER act of wrongdoing on his part. There should not have been ANY delay on Trump's part.

Trump DID get a promise of an investigation from Ukraine PRIOR TO the funds being disbursed.

Can I ask you a question? Why are you so uninformed about what happened? Do you watch anything other than Hannity and Ingraham every night?
 
Afraid you're the one who doesn't understand what the emoluments clause is and reasoning and history behind it. Not a single incident you say of this President accepting or soliciting any kind foreign aid to aid in his election. What do you call these then?
LOL! You must be joking! Yeah, Trump speaks to foreign governments and makes requests through press conferences with our media. Holy crap, that is out there, man. That's what you believe? Talking to the media, making a jab, is the way that would be communicated??? Wow, that's just insane. Hey, maybe he sings in the shower and makes requests that way too, HA HA!
 
It's not a warped view at all. If there are good reasons why the aid was blocked that have nothing to do with the alleged QPQ, get Mulvaney under oath and those who worked with him, and Rudy, and Trump, to tell us these reasons, under oath. Why in the hell is testifying to the truth under oath a warped sense of logic, if what we want is the truth.

And I'm certainly willing to agree to the idea that if Trump stops cowering behind the skirt of executive privilege that the GOP can call anyone with information relevant to the case. Nellie Ohr is an absurd request, given I haven't seen her name anywhere in this case at any level. But within bounds, OK.

There's no QPQ, so what's the point? The transcript makes that clear.
 
What is the other side? The facts are very simple and have no sides.

Oh, so you would be good with the State presenting their case, those are the facts, and you don't get to cross examine the witnesses against you? Welcome to the old Soviet Union.
 
There's no QPQ, so what's the point? The transcript makes that clear.

Trump literally said, "I would like you to do us a favor though...", immediately after Zelenskyy requested a sale of more javelin missiles.

This was very clearly a request for a QPQ.
 
I disagree with McConnell not taking it up.
he should take it up and then everyone vote to acquit.

that is the only way to end this thing once and for all.
It sounds like that's definitely the plan:

McConnell said:
I don’t think there’s any question that we have to take up the matter. The rules of impeachment are very clear, we’ll have to have a trial. My own view is that we should give people the opportunity to put the case on,” McConnell told reporters after being asked about dismissing the articles of impeachment.

I like how Burr summed up the process yesterday:
Let me tell you what that means. It means the day we take it up, we go into sessions six days a week from 12:30 until 6:30 and can’t say anything. The House are the prosecutors, the president’s lawyers are the defense attorneys. They hash it out, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court comes in and he rules. We basically hear the case, and then we have to come to a verdict. That will probably be six or eight weeks’ process

And right in the middle of Democrat primary season, too. It sounds like we'll be treated to a lot of incoherent Bidenisms as Warren, Sanders, and half of the field disappears from the campaign trail. Shucks, darn for them.
 
Trump literally said, "I would like you to do us a favor though...", immediately after Zelenskyy requested a sale of more javelin missiles.

This was very clearly a request for a QPQ.
Yes, he literally asked them to do us a favor and investigate foreign interference into the 2016 election. Oh, the horror!
 
You do know it is seditious to question the integrity of our institutions without evidence. It is something I would expect from GRU trolls.
Then why are you doing it? Are you a GRU troll?

Before you pontificate that Trump had a popular mandate, remember that millions more voted for H. Clinton. "The People" are not the members of the electoral college.
That makes him President. If you respect the Constitution as you say, respect the result and stop trying to undermine the office.
 
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